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GW 12 match day thread

skippy15

Good luck to all and our great teams before the matches start....
McCarthy
Zouma lamptey bednarek
Salah c kdb Jota son
Wilson bamford Kane
Martinez balbuena Mendy kilman
And son to Fernandez next week

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crushproof

Good stuff. Have Adams, but also Vestergaard, whom BBC initially had down as the assist! Ah well.

CSF

Ace2007 wrote: »

Sooner or later I will actually get a Southampton defender - seriously consistent in returning whether goals assists or clean sheets - nearly very week one of them contributes

They’re so dangerous from set pieces. The one team where you target the CBS ahead of the fullbacks.

Ace2007

Sooner or later I will actually get a Southampton defender - seriously consistent in returning whether goals assists or clean sheets - nearly very week one of them contributes

Father Hernandez

1-0 Southampton

Adams (Bednarek)

siblers

I don't see how Salah won't start. Especially with Jota injured

Ginger n Lemon

Brian201888 wrote: »

Alisson
Trent
Fabinho
Matip
Robbo
Curtis
Hendo
Gini
Salah
Mane
Firmino

Brian I hope you are right.

Brian201888

Alisson
Trent
Fabinho
Matip
Robbo
Curtis
Hendo
Gini
Salah
Mane
Firmino

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool team is supposedly Allison Taa robertson fabinho Matip henderson wijnaldum Jones salah firmino mane.

Father Hernandez

https://twitter.com/sheffieldunited/status/1338076616124198912?s=21

Father Hernandez

https://twitter.com/southamptonfc/status/1338076317489696770?s=21

Ings starts.

Green&Red

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

Good news for you. Jota has been ruled out.

I don’t think he has, Klopp said he has a knock. The metro is reporting two months. Times guy is saying it’ll be assessed

Scorpion Sting

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Currently on 26 but with Dias and soucek on bench . Castagne unlikely to play so that should be Dias in . Need jota not to play for soucek to come in

Good news for you. Jota has been ruled out.

Dr. Bre

Currently on 26 but with Dias and soucek on bench . Castagne unlikely to play so that should be Dias in . Need jota not to play for soucek to come in

Jim Gazebo

24(-4) from 7. If Son and Kane turn up tomorrow and Salah has an off day then I'm in trouble.

Ace2007

Stats can prove anything you want them to though

But he's a 7.9m striker returning points per match basically the same as Wilson, who is 6.6m, on penalties and had 3 double digit scores so far this season despite playing 2 games less than DCL. Which for some reason you chose not to show?? And Bamford is marginally behind and is priced at 6.2m.

So if you want to try to fit in 3/4 of the big hitter in midfield - the types of players who have gotten more double digit scores than DCL in less matches, then downgrading DCL to Wilson, Bamford, or even Welbeck, makes a lot of sense.

Let's look at another stat - bonus points this season - despite scoring more goals, and being more expensive, DCL has less bonus points than Wilson and Bamford. Wilson in this time has played 2 games less. Now he got 3bps in both games he got the double digit hauls, which means than in the other 10 games, he's managed only 4 bonus points, and in fact in total, he's only got bonus points in 4 games. Both Bamford and Wilson have gotten bonus points in more games.

The two games where he has scored more than 1 goal - have been against Fulham and West Brom - probably the two worse defences in the league.

So in a normal season where the sub 7m strikers weren't returning, then yes he might be worth a long time stay in teams, but with so many high price mids looking like scoring double digit hauls regularly, it just makes sense to sell him, if you need to raise the cash.

If Welbeck were to score tomorrow he would be pretty much matching DCL over 4 GW's, but would be 2.5m cheaper, and has a lot more favourable fixtures. And that's the other element to it - it's the future returns people care about the most.

Rikand

Ace2007 wrote: »

He's not really returning the last few weeks compared to cheaper strikers

DCL's form in recent weeks hasn't been great, if your trying to fit another premium mid in

Form Table

Name|£|**
DCL|7.9|6.5
Joelinton|5.7|6.0
Welbeck|5.5|4.8
Kane|10.9|4.5
Wilson|6.6|4.3
Bamford|6.2|4.2
Cavani|8.0|4.0
Benteke|5.5|3.8
Richarlison|7.8|3.8
Vardy|10.3|3.8

"but too expensive"

Value/form Table

Name|£|**
Joelinton|5.7|1.1
Welbeck|5.5|0.9
DCL|7.9|0.8
Benteke|5.5|0.7
Bamford|6.2|0.7
Wilson|6.6|0.7
Haller|6.1|0.6
Wood|6.2|0.5
Richarlison|7.8|0.5
Decordova|5.3|0.5

"and of course, he's just not prolific enough"

Number of times in the dream team

Name|£|**
Kane|10.9|4
vardy|10.3|3
Watkins|6.1|2
DCL|7.9|2
Joelinton|5.7|2
Wilson|6.6|2

"And i never really see him in the games anyway - pops up with a goal or an assist and then hes non existant"

ICT Index rating ( Influence,creativity,threat rating)

Name|£|**
Kane|10.9|133.8
DCL|7.9|120.4
Bamford|6.2|100.9
Werner|9.5|91.3
Vardy|10.3|89.3
Watkins|6.1|78.5
Firmino|9.2|71.8
Wilson|6.6|70.4
Maupay|6.1|69.3
Adams|6.0|68.8
Ings|8.4|65.8

https://www.premierleague.com/news/65567

he only had 1 assist today, but could have had two at least only for an offside decision going against him. The reality of it is, he's a huge influence on the game from an Everton and an FPL point of view. If that stat says anything, it's the Werner owners have really gotten the wide end of the shaft this season so far.

if price is the only reason for you wanting rid of DCL, then let that be the case, because as far as the stats are concerned when it comes to form, he's top of the pile

Rikand

28 from 6

HEWT

Scorpion Sting

38 (-4) with Salah (c) and KWP left.

Up to 216k from 405k yesterday but going to fall back tomorrow.

Kane, Son and Vardy the three players who can really do serious damage to my rank.

COH

14 (-4) from 5

HEWT

ShaneU

15 from 6

Gashtastic!

Rikand

dockysher wrote: »

Why do people still own werner

Why do Chelsea still own Werner ?

gammygils

17 (-4) from 6 and 20 from 2 on my bench !

Can only hope for a much better day tomorrow :rolleyes:

dockysher

Why do people still own werner

Cartman78

29(-4) from 6....all pretty meh apart from Martinez tbh.

Robertson, Lamptey, Salah (C), Jota/Taylor and Wellbeck left to play.

Mr.Prodston

Ace2007 wrote: »

You must have serious FOMO to have kept him this long.

Yep!

I think he's capable of exploding, a bit like Son can! And it terrifies me to sell him the week before it happens :pac:

Everton have no fullbacks. Have Pickford. And have been involved in high scoring games with Chelsea over the years.... it seemed reasonable to persevere

Shanotheslayer

Did not see that coming at all. Delighted!

37(-4)

McCarthy Salah(C) Vardy left

titan18

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Today I've amassed a whopping zero points.

I think I'm on 12. Have 16 on the bench with Martinez and Konsa then

Ace2007

gammygils

That's 3 of my 5 players yellow carded today
FS :mad:

Kiith

Transfered DCL out and had Zouma and James...pretty much as bad as it possibly could have gone for me.