gormdubhgorm wrote: » I am curious now. Which manager do you think could get more out of the players available? Either from Mayo currently or fellas that would have expressed interest in the past? Because I think the Mayo job would be a dream job for any intercounty manager. Low expectation, but seems to be talent coming through. Mixed with the old heads. I think Horan has the hard part done for any future manager, and blooded the younger lads.
PressRun wrote: » I suspect it will be a bit of a pasting too tbh, but sure I'd rather be in the final than not. Though I suspect this is all happening a year or two earlier than Horan was expecting, but we are where we are now. The differences between Horan and Rochford are fairly stark. Horan just has a football philosophy that he subscribes to and doesn't seem to believe in tailoring games to suit opposition. Rochford was more tactically minded for sure. I always think back on the Tyrone game in 2016. Was a cagey game that probably wasn't particularly entertaining for the neutral and we did nearly blow it (of course), but Rochford got so much right that day. I'm sure Tony McEntee had a big input on that game too. It was a great overall management performance.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » We started back training tonight with our underage team. One of the other managers said he expects Dublin to open an almighty can of whoopass on us. Was adamant it will happen due to Horans lack of ability to react "in game". This man and his family are big Mayo supporters but said Rochie always tailored games to the opposition which is very true.
PressRun wrote: » Well, if nothing else, Horan's brand of football is exciting to watch and I get the sense that the players do enjoy playing that way. I still believe it's a disaster waiting to happen and we are in very dodgy territory. But like km is saying, we might as well enjoy the ride nonetheless!
km79 wrote: » He didn’t It is what it is with him He drives me daft at times but I’m on board for this years ride !
muddle84 wrote: » There is nobody in the country close to Fenton in terms of what he does for Dublin and how good he is. That's not the point, he doesn't have to be a third of the footballer. He is everybit the athlete that Fenton is. Sure Fenton might catch it over his head but is he going to be as effective when Coen is tackling him and following him the full length of the field. Coen's best games are when he is given a specific role like this. He tends to get a bit lost when running up the field. When he gets into the other half he usually looks to off load. I think this is why he is underrated so much.
gormdubhgorm wrote: I was wondering if Mayo people can think up likely 'left field' plans Horan might come up with?
gormdubhgorm wrote: » Jayus, you are not really selling Horan's sideline strength's much! I was thinking surely he learnt a trick or two from his time at SKY - transitions, offloads and all that jazz?
Green&Red wrote: » Gavin’s biggest strength was his ability to think of the fly. In game management is probably Horan’s biggest weakness. The ‘13 final, dubs had two players injured comes immediately to mind. He moved Higgins out of the HF line when he was causing Dublin all kinds of trouble in that match also. Panicked to get Conroy on for Freeman
gormdubhgorm wrote: » Well if I was Mayo I would be working on something, just to make Dublin think a bit at some stage. As I feel Dessie Farrell on the sideline for Dublin has been having a nice handy time of things so far. If Dublin go a man down for example like they did v Kerry last year. Would Dessie be as cute at counter-acting it as Jim Gavin was? And what would Horan do with the spare man that type of thing.
Green&Red wrote: » Gorm, Horan is the least likely man to spring a surprise. The one thing the dubs do know is exactly how we’ll set up and go at the game. We’ll try and run the legs off teams, make the pitch wider, kick it into our FF line if there’s space or else work it over and back the pitch if there’s not Edit: and for the record that’s what a genuine question looks like!
SomethingElse wrote: » That wasn't Horan
gormdubhgorm wrote: » I was wondering if Mayo people can think up likely 'left field' plans Horan might come up with? In my head he always seems to try something unexpected. Is it likely he will stick to the status quo or obvious moves? Or will he concoct something to try and bamboozle the Dublin sideline? One that sticks in my mind is David Clarke dropped for Rob Henelley back in the 2016 Final. I know it did not work on the day. But Horan always seems like the kind of fella who is willing to try something different if he believes it will improve Mayo's chances of winning.
franklyon wrote: » I might need another week. At the moment I am feeling it's a step too far for us but will be delighted if I'm wrong.
km79 wrote: »
RedDevil55 wrote: » That's it in a nutshell, but you also have to remember he contributes a lot apart from scoring. He played an inch perfect kick pass into Conroy for his mark the last day and I don't think there's a forward in the country who wins more turnovers than him.
PARlance wrote: » I woke up this morning and I started to BELIEVE!
Green&Red wrote: » This is the issue with Coen Lads that don’t have a clue about football underestimate him. Captain of minor, U-21 and Sigerson winning teams. That Sigerson team had Jimmy Feehan, Jack Barry, Conor McCarthy and Con O’Callaghan on it Not half the player Fenton is but he’s such an effective man when given a job. He’s well capable of nullifying Fenton
pawdee wrote: » I have a funny feeling that Mayo are going to win the All-Ireland this year. On the law of averages alone surely be to God ye have to win one sooner or later. Ye just keep coming back for more and you have to admire that. Ok, it's hard to look past Dublin, they're an amazing team hats off to them, (and that's from a Kerryman) but for me there's something about Mayo this year.
Blackjack wrote: » The problem is that somehow many of his detractors (usually from a particular county with a huge population) seem to think that scores from frees don’t count as much, or are easy or something. Anytime anyone mentions Cillian’s scoring records all you get is “how many from frees, how many from the left, how many from the right, how many this that or the other” as if somehow a 13 yard free is worth less on the scoreboard than a shot taken to draw a game from the 45. The stats are there for anyone to see, the records are there for anyone to see. his record score in a championship game last Sunday (where he out scored the entire Tipp team while he was on the pitch) is met with “soft goals, poor opposition blah blah blah”. He’s an outstanding player, the records he holds should be enough for anyone to see that. However there’s a large vocal cohort of idiots, some former players themselves, who won’t see it because they don’t like him. Fair enough if people don’t like him but it would be refreshing to see if the same detractors at least have the intelligence and good grace not to be blindsided by hatred to see how good a player he is. The intelligence seems to be the biggest factor missing in those that continually express negative views of him though.
