FrancieBrady wrote: » Love this 'admitted' Indo style spin. He said.... He wasn't hiding the fact nor was he being interrogated. Maty Lou said the same thing. YFG call around to houses too and FG send Civil Servants to the houses of Garda COmmissioners. You also have Party Whip systems that 'control' what party members do as well as stringent rules. Your 'heavy' and 'intimidation# pile-on fell on it's arse blanch and you are not big enought to admit it.
blanch152 wrote: » Martin Browne admitted that Ms. O'Mahony may have felt intimidated. #notanormalparty
FrancieBrady wrote: » He did the same thing as me and said she was entitled to feel that way. That doesn't for a second mean that was the intention of the visit. I just went to a government office there as I had missed a renewal on a trading licence and 'felt intimidated' by the guy asking the questions. That was on me, not the guy asking the questions who was just doing his job.YFG arrived to a party members house as a mob, not a normal party too?
FrancieBrady wrote: » He did the same thing as me and said she was entitled to feel that way. That doesn't for a second mean that was the intention of the visit. I just went to a government office there as I had missed a renewal on a trading licence and 'felt intimidated' by the guy asking the questions. That was on me, not the guy asking the questions who was just doing his job. YFG arrived to a party members house as a mob, not a normal party too?
McMurphy wrote: » What's this Francie?
TheJournal.ie revealed earlier this week that several members of the YFG national executive council visited O’Sullivan’s home last Friday and presented him with a letter demanding his resignation or warning that he would be forced out.
blanch152 wrote: » If you were intimidated in a government office, you should use the complaints procedure. They are very quick at addressing it and getting back to you. Staff are expected to have had training in dealing sensitively with customers. The intention of the visit was to get the post taken down. I am sure that was made clear to her.
blanch152 wrote: » Sure, I've had members of all parties call to my door, but they aren't calling on cold dark nights in the middle of Covid restrictions asking me to take down social media posts. No, that is the preserve of one political party. #notanormalparty
Bowie wrote: » You pushed the lie that heavies went around to intimidate her. That's not true. You are now trying a different angle. Obsessing over this non-story shows how poor FG are IMO.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I was looking for all the threads of outrage started about it at the time...can't find any funnily enough. https://www.thejournal.ie/young-fine-gael-2414918-Oct2015/
blanch152 wrote: » The Sinn Fein budgets have not been fully costed by the Department of Finance. The Department of Finance provide costs and revenues for individual budget initiatives. Missing from the analysis is the most important part of analysis - the combination effect of different measures and the side-effects. For example, the Department of Finance can provide a figure to Sinn Fein for a €10 rise in social welfare costs for existing social welfare claimants. However, if Sinn Fein then go and propose a €50 rise at five times the cost given by the Department of Finance, it meets the definition of being costed, but there is no estimation of the displacement costs.
Hamsterchops wrote: » And would anyone other than SF voters disagree with FG on this point? I hate SF too, and for the same reason. Call me old fashioned but I just wouldn't celebrate atrocities, no matter who made the bomb. .
Hamsterchops wrote: » Have I missed something, who's this guy Browne?
FrancieBrady wrote: » We simply don't know Hamster, SF are polling at 30% when their 'ceiling' was supposed to be around 18% with some here. Seems to me that people don't factor it too highly when choosing or they don't have a problem with things that happened in the past.
Hamsterchops wrote: » Probably correct for once. The new SF voters don't know or care what happened.
FrancieBrady wrote: » We simply don't know Hamster, SF are polling at 30% when their 'ceiling' was supposed to be around 18% with some here. Seems to me that people don't factor it too highly when choosing or they don't have a problem with things that happened in the past, like FG and FF elect to do with events around us gaining independence when people died just as profoundly as they did in '69-'98.
Floppybits wrote: » Maybe Blanch knows something we don't and that why he is persisting with the heavies. Is he suggesting the girl is a liar or that she was intimidated into making that statement?
walshb wrote: » Not sure if a liar. Bit I think it’s fair to say an attention seeking me-feiner! She deliberately created this maelstrom for the party she chose to associate with..
Bowie wrote: » It'll be interesting how the state commemorates that entire period. I don't think FF would appreciate MM downplaying it to appease anybody. Varadkar might apologise to the unionists or something. For me it's important that theres no whitewashing and no party tries to take ownership. It's our shared history.
FrancieBrady wrote: » My view too. Our shared divided history in a still divided present. Either we talk in a grown up fashion about these things or we do this ****e every so often.
FrancieBrady wrote: » You don't know that either.
Bowie wrote: » Was FG made up 'the heavies' lie not her.
walshb wrote: » I think we can assume here.. It’s 2020... Not 1970... I’d wager a good bet that a lot of SF voters couldn’t give a toss about a United Ireland or Brits out..a lot of new and young voters who have known this life for all their lives.. Far far removed from decades ago..
FrancieBrady wrote: » You go ahead and put that wedge on so. Doesn't change the fact that you or I don't know.
walshb wrote: » I know.. I think you know, too. Times have changed. Huge differences between SF living in the now compared to SF from living decades ago.. Their overall goal is the same, but the times have drastically changed, as have the people, and the voters.. Many many weren’t even born during the height of the troubles..
