The Vaccine

And as for vaccines you should be cheering on those who dont want or trust it
I mean it will ensure you and your buddys will get it first
we can see if you come out the other end unscathed

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We're gonna need a bigger Bingo card

runawaybishop

enno99 wrote: »

Harmful use of alcohol kills more than 3 million people each year, most of them men

Globally an estimated 237 million men and 46 million women suffer from alcohol-use disorders with the highest prevalence among men and women in the European region (14.8% and 3.5%) and the Region of Americas (11.5% and 5.1%). Alcohol-use disorders are more common in high-income countries.

Any progress on this front or is just flu like diseases they think is the big threat to society

Close the bars and off licences now ban all alcohol
I mean its about saving lives :rolleyes:

Alcohol abuse isn't infectious. We also have laws around protecting people from people that are drunk and protecting the person themselves.

Your analogy is stupid and you should feel bad.

enno99 wrote: »

Not really your peddling BS about saving lives
what happened to all the flu deaths

98& less flu in southern hemisphere where did it go
masks common sense stuff ?
how come cases of covid rose in the same period

Lol. Flu is an infectious ilness, why have cases decreased? Think..

Dohnjoe wrote: »

What an utterly stupid analogy

Is it not about saving lives ?

Dohnjoe wrote: »

What an utterly stupid analogy

Not really your peddling BS about saving lives
what happened to all the flu deaths

98& less flu in southern hemisphere where did it go
masks common sense stuff ?
how come cases of covid rose in the same period

enno99 wrote: »

Harmful use of alcohol kills more than 3 million people each year, most of them men

Any progress on this front or is just flu like diseases they think is the big threat to society

Close the bars and off licences now ban all alcohol
I mean its about saving lives :rolleyes:

What an utterly stupid analogy

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Many of your views in this thread are so irrational it's actually difficult to follow them..

You don't seem to understand this vaccine or vaccines in general, but you appear to be terrified of them

You claim all these vast conspiracies are going on, but you can never provide any details of them

Covid has killed around 1.5 mm people in the last 9 months, but you seem to be far more worried about the common sense measures to curb it from spreading, and perplexed with simple notions like wearing a mask or social distancing

Harmful use of alcohol kills more than 3 million people each year, most of them men

Globally an estimated 237 million men and 46 million women suffer from alcohol-use disorders with the highest prevalence among men and women in the European region (14.8% and 3.5%) and the Region of Americas (11.5% and 5.1%). Alcohol-use disorders are more common in high-income countries.

Any progress on this front or is just flu like diseases they think is the big threat to society

Close the bars and off licences now ban all alcohol
I mean its about saving lives :rolleyes:

EyesClosed wrote: »

What's the conspiracy exactly?
The vaccine is going to kill people? Or it isn't needed? Or both?

Yes

EyesClosed

I've been following this thread from the start and I'm lost now. What's the conspiracy exactly?
The vaccine is going to kill people? Or it isn't needed? Or both?

Lex Luthor wrote: »

You mentioned the COVID vaccine specifically, not in general

Many of your views in this thread are so irrational it's actually difficult to follow them..

You don't seem to understand this vaccine or vaccines in general, but you appear to be terrified of them

You claim all these vast conspiracies are going on, but you can never provide any details of them

Covid has killed around 1.5 mm people in the last 9 months, but you seem to be far more worried about the common sense measures to curb it from spreading, and perplexed with simple notions like wearing a mask or social distancing

runawaybishop

Lex Luthor wrote: »

You mentioned the COVID vaccine specifically, not in general

This vaccine is new technology so its like apples & oranges

Is there any part of that you don't understand?

Sorry, what's your point? Some people may be allergic to medicine. What's the conspiracy changed to now, it's hard to keep up when you move the goalposts after your nonsense is pointed out

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Lots of people die from infectious diseases.
Very, very, very few people die from the vaccines used to protect against them.

Is there any part of that you don't understand?

You mentioned the COVID vaccine specifically, not in general

This vaccine is new technology so its like apples & oranges

Is there any part of that you don't understand?

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Any chance that crystal ball of yours has tonight’s lotto numbers?

Lots of people die from infectious diseases.
Very, very, very few people die from the vaccines used to protect against them.

Is there any part of that you don't understand?

ceegee wrote: »

People with SIGNIFICANT allergies. Strange that the one word you omitted happened to be the one that made your sentence more sensationalist.

Significant history of allergies is not the same as history of significant allergies

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Contracting Covid is far, far more dangerous than being inoculated against it.

Any chance that crystal ball of yours has tonight’s lotto numbers?

greenspurs wrote: »

The 1st people that cant take the vaccine that wont harm you .

No one is claiming this. Nothing is 100% safe. All anti-vaxxers use this faulty notion as a crutch to attack vaccines.

People can suffer mild, average or strong effects from a vaccine, meaning they after the jab they can feel almost nothing, feel not great or some can feel sick for a day or two. A very small amount can even develop an injury and in rare cases, some people have even died as a result.

So when you start with the premise "Oh lol I thought vaccines can't harm anyone", that's false, and anyone with an ounce of basic knowledge knows this.

The cure is worse than the 'virus'

Which is not the case. Contracting Covid is far, far more dangerous than being inoculated against it.

silliussoddius

Deleted User wrote: »

i saw dis guy on youtube and he sed bill gates is tryin contrul us and we shud say no cuz our fredom is gone and big farma make us slave and the scence is rong nyway so i wont k bye

ur an angle fur littin uz no

US2

I've an allergic reaction to eggs , missed out on alot of vacations growing up, looks like I can't take this one either. I'll just have to hope I'm one of the 99% of people who survive covid, if I actually get infected

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i saw dis guy on youtube and he sed bill gates is tryin contrul us and we shud say no cuz our fredom is gone and big farma make us slave and the scence is rong nyway so i wont k bye

greenspurs

King Mob wrote: »

Why are you asking for this pedantic clarification?
Which of these figures do you believe is being inflated?

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

have you a source that quotes 2 different figures, one for death with Covid and one for death related to covid?

Lex Luthor wrote: »

I'm not afraid of it, I just dont need it

Bravo....

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/allergy-warning-on-pfizer-biontech-covid-vaccine-1.4431784

The 1st people that cant take the vaccine that wont harm you .

"A clinical trial of the Pfizer vaccine in 38,000 participants found that the most common reactions were reactions at the site of the injection, fatigue, headaches, muscle pain, chills joint pain and fever. “Severe adverse reactions occurred in 0.0% to 4.6% of participants, were more frequent after Dose 2 than after Dose 1” and were less frequent in those over 55 years of age, the Food and Drug Administration said on Tuesday."

The cure is worse than the 'virus'

I'm not afraid of it, I just dont need it

[Deleted User]

Lex Luthor wrote: »

time will tell

You keep saying this as if it helps your case.
It doesn't.
It's a cop out. You are just running away from points and questions you can't handle.

You have no rational reason to be afraid of the vaccine.

So why are you afraid of it?

[Deleted User]

Lex Luthor wrote: »

define a significant allergy as opposed to an allergy

A significant allergy would be if a person had a history of anaphylaxis as a result of an allergy. Insignificant are mild things like rashes etc that don't pose a risk to your health ultimately. This isn't the first time where allergies have been warned about in relation to a vaccine so no idea why you're viewing it as a big deal.

Lex Luthor wrote: »

define a significant allergy as opposed to an allergy

Sorry to press this, but can you answer some of the many questions asked about the many conspiracies you've suggested..

Is there a reason you can't address those questions or?

define a significant allergy as opposed to an allergy

ceegee

Lex Luthor wrote: »

people with allergies to food & medicines now are being recommended to not take it

People with SIGNIFICANT allergies. Strange that the one word you omitted happened to be the one that made your sentence more sensationalist.

The Nal

This sums it up for me

Lex Luthor wrote: »

There is insufficient data for the FDA to conclude how safe the vaccine is in children under 16, pregnant women and people with compromised immune systems.

hmmmmm

Constantly suspicious of medical science, but entertains absurd conspiracies..

Hmmmmm indeed.