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Do you believe in UFOs & flying saucers ?

Hamsterchops

Have you every seen an unidentified flying object?

A UFO of course is just an aerial phenomenon that you can't explain (hence unidentified), & probably not at all connected to little green men from Mars.

So what are UFOs and have you ever seen something in the sky that you couldn't explain?

In the past many people have mistaken aircraft, weather balloons, silver party balloons, and even bright planets in the night sky as UFOs, but of course under scrutiny they usually have a rational & logical explanation. More recently drones have been mistaken as UFOs.

Then in the last month we've had video clips released from the Pentagon actually showing real UFOs filmed darting around at amazing speeds & doing manouvers that would be impossible for any manned craft to do. The G forces would be so powerful as to kill any human occupants, so what was witnessed by the US Navy pilots and the aircraft carrier radar?

Are UFOs terrestrial or extraterrestrial craft?

Illusions or really there, imagination or reality?

What are UFOs !

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Timberrrrrrrr

Spon Farmer wrote: »

No, we did not land on the moon.

I think he means the collective we as in the human race.

saabsaab

corks finest wrote: »

Early Christmas panto

Oh yes we did!

jmlad2020

yaknowski wrote: »

Israeli space dude says there is a base on mars and we aren't ready for the truth.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/12/07/israeli-space-official-aliens-exist-galactic-federation-humans-not-ready/

He is a respected former space security chief for a major nation. I doubt he has any solid proof to show us but who's to say this isn't true. Anyone who completely rules out the existence of Aliens is ignorant imo.

Trump definitely knows something judging from his responses to recent UFO questions.

silliussoddius

jmlad2020 wrote: »

He is a respected former space security chief for a major nation. I doubt he has any solid proof to show us but who's to say this isn't true. Anyone who completely rules out the existence of Aliens is ignorant imo.

Trump definitely knows something judging from his responses to recent UFO questions.

There's a big difference between believing in life elsewhere and then making the jump to believing every claim about unexplained events being aliens.
Hasn't this fella said that there is an agreement between the aliens and governments? I'm assuming this agreement covers aliens not disclosing themselves. Does this mean that the sightings that are being reported are those of aliens who are breaching the agreement?

jmlad2020

silliussoddius wrote: »

There's a big difference between believing in life elsewhere and then making the jump to believing every claim about unexplained events being aliens.
Hasn't this fella said that there is an agreement between the aliens and governments? I'm assuming this agreement covers aliens not disclosing themselves. Does this mean that the sightings that are being reported are those of aliens who are breaching the agreement?

I can't speak directly for the Galactic league, or promise this conversation has any sanity to it, but I'd say it's perfectly in their remit to visit here and doesnt actually reveal much at all, very little concrete evidence comes from these, wether it's a ufo sighting in California or an abduction of a farmer in Monaghan. No one really takes these seriously.

If anything a drip feeding of sightings etc will soften the blow of full disclosure, which if it was ever going to happen one would argue we are on the verge of.

As Obama says in his Jimmy Kimmel interview when asked about Aliens - "They exercise strict control over us" maybe there's some truth to his sarcastic tone.

Who knows what's really going on

BorneTobyWilde

https://twitter.com/realannapaulina/status/1336049234446086145

Wibbs

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I think he means the collective we as in the human race.

Oh right. Not very clear at all. Actually a common thread that all the Apollo guys noted when they went around the world after the landings was that though they went as Americans and it was America that did it and it was done to show the Cold War value of America as the best society, no matter where they went they heard the "we did it!" from people from every corner of the globe, including the Soviet Union. It struck all of them how collective a feeling it turned out to be.

That and the other major effect of those missions was in going to the Moon we really discovered the Earth as the cameras were turned towards it in its entirety for the first time. I think it was Gene Cernan, the last Apollo guy to step off the Moon who said that beyond all the technological advances and the fantastic science involved those two things alone made the whole thing worth every cent.

It was Gene's flight that got us this image:

jmlad2020

https://twitter.com/JWhite_14/status/1335016029471322112?s=20

jaxxx

Technically speaking all life is alien to Earth.. .. .. since RNA came from space long before DNA even 'evolved'.

Which begs the question.. .. .. where did RNA originate from?

*insert X-Files tune*

Btw, if any extra terrestrial life forms happen to be reading this, please don't hesitate to get in touch! Cos I sure as hell don't belong among humanity!!

Tony EH

BattleCorp wrote: »

The universe (both known and unknown) is so vast, it's absolutely unimaginably vast. There has to be other intelligent life out there. It would be very naive for us to think we are the only intelligent life in the universe. So yes, I do think there are little green men flying around out there somewhere. Have they ever come here, who knows, but they're out there.

This is true. Space is big. Very, VERY, big. Plus, our time on this planet has been tiny in the grand scheme of things. So, the vastness of space, coupled and our miniscule amount of existence makes the odds of any alien contact on this planet extremely small. So small as to be insignificant.

Simply put, the chances that alien life has visited us here are practically non existent.

Do UFO's exist? Sure, there's lot of unidentified flying objects knocking around. But, they're most probably - assuredly IMO - not little green men from space, no matter how much someone wants to "believe".

The odds that anyone from space has landed on earth are, literally, astronomical.

Spon Farmer

Tony EH wrote: »

This is true. Space is big. Very, VERY, big. Plus, our time on this planet has been tiny in the grand scheme of things. So, the vastness of space, coupled and our miniscule amount of existence makes the odds of any alien contact on this planet extremely small. So small as to be insignificant.

Simply put, the chances that alien life has visited us here are practically non existent.

Do UFO's exist? Sure, there's lot of unidentified flying objects knocking around. But, they're most probably - assuredly IMO - not little green men from space, no matter how much someone wants to "believe".

The odds that anyone from space has landed on earth are, literally, astronomical.

Grey. You said green men. A Reticulan's skin tone is actually grey. They're notorious for their extraction of terrestrial human livers. Due to iron depletion in the Reticulan galaxy.

bodhrandude

Did any of you ever read the Whitley Strieber books, Communion and Transformation. I think Cristopher Walken plays Strieber in the film Communion about his alien visitations.

Spon Farmer

saabsaab wrote: »

Oh yes we did!

Oh no we didn’t !!!

Spon Farmer

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I think he means the collective we as in the human race.

Yes that is what he meant but I’m unclear as to what you think I thought he meant since you think I didn’t know he meant mankind.

Who else could the “we” be?

Spon Farmer

jmlad2020 wrote: »

He is a respected former space security chief for a major nation. I doubt he has any solid proof to show us but who's to say this isn't true. Anyone who completely rules out the existence of Aliens is ignorant imo.

Trump definitely knows something judging from his responses to recent UFO questions.

Well that is the most ridiculously far fetched thing on the thread so far

Quantum Erasure

Spon Farmer wrote: »

Yes that is what he meant but I’m unclear as to what you think I thought he meant since you think I didn’t know he meant mankind.

Who else could the “we” be?

Those of us commenting on a thread on an Irish discussion site in 2020... Irish people in general ...

Quantum Erasure

Spon Farmer wrote: »

Well that is the most ridiculously far fetched thing on the thread so far

hmmm...

Spon Farmer wrote: »

No, we did not land on the moon.

Spon Farmer

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Those of us commenting on a thread on an Irish discussion site in 2020... Irish people in general ...

So you think Timberrrrr thought that I thought that branie2 was claiming the Irisha conquered the moon?

Spon Farmer

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

hmmm...

Really? Another person who doesn’t get the meaning of that?

Jaysus, apparently I’m too profound altogether...

Quantum Erasure

Spon Farmer wrote: »

Really? Another person who doesn’t get the meaning of that?

Jaysus, apparently I’m too profound altogether...

Ok so, if we, meaning (some of) the human race, didn't land on the moon, what did happen? We alighted...?

Or do you mean we didn't ALL go there? Fair enough so

Spon Farmer

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Ok so, if we, meaning (some of) the human race, didn't land on the moon, what did happen? We alighted...?

Or do you mean we didn't ALL go there? Fair enough so

How many times does a person need to answer the same question?

Trying to make out that I’m a “moon landing denier” from what I have posted is as looney as the moon landing conspiracies.

Quantum Erasure

Spon Farmer wrote: »

How many times does a person need to answer the same question?

Just once

Hamsterchops

Six times.

There were six crewed U.S. landings between 1969 and 1972, and numerous uncrewed landings.

A total of twelve men have landed on the Moon. This was accomplished with two US pilot-astronauts flying a Lunar Module on each of six NASA missions across a 41-month period starting 20 July 1969, with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin on Apollo 11, and ending on 14 December 1972 with Gene Cernan and Jack Schmitt on Apollo 17. Cernan was the last man to step off the lunar surface.

No flying saucers or aliens were involved.

Quantum Erasure

Spon Farmer wrote: »

How many times does a person need to answer the same question?

Trying to make out that I’m a “moon landing denier” from what I have posted is as looney as the moon landing conspiracies.

Ok so

Spon Farmer wrote: »

Grey. You said green men. A Reticulan's skin tone is actually grey. They're notorious for their extraction of terrestrial human livers. Due to iron depletion in the Reticulan galaxy.

Humankind DIDNT land on the moon,

And there IS little GREY men flying around...

Yeah, goodbye

Spon Farmer

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Just once

If that is so then why are you asking the same question AFTER I have answered it.

Hamsterchops

Sorry, I don't want to get involved in your ongoing dispute with eachother, but are we suggesting that the Moon landings were staged on Earth?

Great film called 'Capricorn One' which involved faking a Mars mission. Fascinating film indeed, and of course we haven't been to Mars just yet.

Hopefully Mr Musk might get us there someday.

Spon Farmer

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Six times.

There were six crewed U.S. landings between 1969 and 1972, and numerous uncrewed landings.

A total of twelve men have landed on the Moon. This was accomplished with two US pilot-astronauts flying a Lunar Module on each of six NASA missions across a 41-month period starting 20 July 1969, with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin on Apollo 11, and ending on 14 December 1972 with Gene Cernan and Jack Schmitt on Apollo 17. Cernan was the last man to step off the lunar surface.

No flying saucers or aliens were involved.

People do tend to forget about the other guys.

As to that last bit, how do you know?

Spon Farmer

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Ok so

Humankind DIDNT land on the moon,

And there IS little GREY men flying around...

Yeah, goodbye

So you just a thicko ?

You finally accept that I haven’t denied the moon landings and the in your next sentence insist that I have.

And then... ?

Oh dear...

Spon Farmer

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Sorry, I don't want to get involved in your ongoing dispute with eachother, but are we suggesting that the Moon landings were staged on Earth?

Great film called 'Capricorn One' which involved faking a Mars mission. Fascinating film indeed, and of course we haven't been to Mars just yet.

Hopefully Mr Musk might get us there someday.

There is no dispute - such a think requires opposing points of view and yet man doesn’t have one.

As to the moon landing being a hoax, I never posted such a thing.

And that is a great movie.

ohnonotgmail

Spon Farmer wrote: »

People do tend to forget about the other guys.

As to that last bit, how do you know?

Buzz Aldrin punches anybody that suggests the moon landings were not exactly as described. that is good enough for me.