razor8 wrote: » Fair enough. It can really feck up someone’s flock. Bought 3 Texel lambs from different breeders many years ago and 2 died of Texel throat first winter. Remember having one in the shed and you could here him in the house. Sent vet a video of him. He said he’ll drop of a heart attack before morning. He dropped 20mins later
wrangler wrote: » They die an awful death I hope you went back to the breeder/s
razor8 wrote: » I didn’t as I thought it would be pointless but reading here now I should of
Dinzee Conlee wrote: » I don’t want to name names here now - but so you know are they still Selling breeding rams?
razor8 wrote: » Yes. But I would imagine it’s the breeding line that was the issue not the whole flock. To my knowledge it’s not contagious
orm0nd wrote: » we lost a belclare ram with it ( or something exactly similar) wasn't too familiar with it at the time and had him cured a with a cocktail of drugs and steroids out of withdrawal and getting on well when he got a second bout , didn't last long and no response to antibiotics
wrangler wrote: » We had a couple ewes with texel throat lately, from rams that are gone now, we traced the rams back, there was nothing notable on the certs , we then went to sheep Ireland and found ours was related to the ram that caused Willie hutchinson to cull all his hogget rams. In the last year two friends have been caught by Texel throat breeders, one friend is just waiting for the antibiotic withdrawal to expire to get to slaughter the ram. The other friend had three rams affected from the one breeder, If Sheep Ireland were any good they'd be on top of this and start a Database of offenders
RobinBanks wrote: » Hi All. I was thinking of buying some nice breeding type tex ewe lambs that are approx 40kg. I normally buy them to fatten and kill next march time but i Was thinking about selling them as breeding hoggets instead. Just wondering when is the best time to sell them? Would I be better keeping them until breeding season starts next October or does it make any difference? Would lads be still buying for grass next spring.
Siamsa Sessions wrote: » Hogget sales are usually around July/August, but depends on where you are. e.g. hill breeds might be a little later. I'm guessing you could always throw them up on DoneDeal in June. Out of interest, what kind of Texel crosses are they? Anything with too much of a square Texel head might not be exactly what people want in breeding ewes.
RobinBanks wrote: » Thanks for reply! I was in the mart earlier and picked out a couple of pins. Its funny when you mention the square heads. I never heard this expression before but one pin i have picked out would have square heads!!! might be more suitable for me because i wont be able to keep them on for the summer. This pin is around 40kg, tight wool but wouldnt be the prettiest. For fattening though, they should be ideal.
Siamsa Sessions wrote: » That kind of big square head would be a good indicator of plenty terminal blood in them, which isn't what you want for breeding animals. I suppose all I'm saying is lambs that are good for finishing are usually terminal and they are very different from lambs that are good for breeding. There are exceptions though as with everything, but in general I'd aim for breeding ewes with narrow heads, narrow shoulders, and wide arses. Kinda a triangle shape!
kk.man wrote: » The big question you need to ask yourself is there a good market for these types near you as hoggets next year. If there is then yes is the answer. In the south east they would be little want for those types in fact there is little type for any except the Borris ewe hogget. I notice that any other breeds the dealers snap up for less than their tru value.
Siamsa Sessions wrote: » Very true - you could get €120 for a 45kg lamb in March but only €140 for a hogget in June, especially if she turns out to be a bit plain or butty. Having said that, it might be more interesting to be buying/selling breeding stock compared to the conveyor belt of finishing stores. Whatever blows yer skirt up, as the man said!
Jjameson wrote: » Farmers will pay dear for a square piggy texel ram with no neck before pay ordinary money for a correct functional proportioned ram. A Suffolk with a massive head and legs that couldn’t throw anything only lambs that need assistance. Bald pink headed Charolais rams that throw bald mice. Wicklow Cheviot rams that have become a biggest sheep competition, long gappy teeth and have turned into sheep that would no more survive a winter on frugal do than any lowland breed. Farmers set the bar for what sells.
farawaygrass wrote: » Are Cheviots big sheep traditionally? Ran a Cheviot Ram with sufflock ewes here a few years ago and kept most of the ewe lambs. Brilliants ewes but they are massive, strong and touch flighty. Often wondered how they were so big for a hill breed
Tileman wrote: » Yea wild hoors. Soon as they see u they’d be gone.
wrangler wrote: » My father was a staunch baler twine fencer. He got a major education when he bought a load of cheviot ewes
Green farmer wrote: » https://www.donedeal.ie/sheep-for-sale/lambs-nearly-ready/25828030 Anyone use this stuff ? Claims to work on fluke ? Any good ?
razor8 wrote: » I like to see proving results before trying it. It’s not very cheap to my knowledge
White Clover wrote: » How do they scan for you?
Jjameson wrote: » Traditionally they were medium. No they were never a mountain sheep but they were fantastic hill sheep and a great cross on Wexford Suffolk’s. Pockets of great genetics are to be found in north Wicklow but the prizes and money are for the biggest sheep rather than correct functional sheep in the higher breeding area of south Wicklow/ Carlow now. Big hungry cracked wild ewes with long gappy teeth that scarcely get to five years without going broken. I seen a ram in Carnew last year that stood like an ass amongst normal sheep. 126kg. I joke you not. Who’d want to clip their feet or shear them. They charge by you off their hind legs. Hateful creatures that I can’t fathom the prices paid.
