FrancieBrady wrote: » Look...read the girl's own words. He went there a 'friend' and left as a 'friend' she didn't want to name, and when she did she worried about the 'friendship'. that is the facts we know. Don't be led by the blanch characterisations of t as a visit from the 'heavy's' etc. That has been shown to be a lie, not by me, but by the girl's own comments.
Solutionking wrote: » She copied the tweet. The one you claimed to have not seen and then magically knew about it. You actually linked to it.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Tweeter may have missed the word 'Process' and the meanng of it. You too can play a very important part in the Process blanch, as I can. It does not neccesarily mean he played a part at the start of the 'Process'. Deary me. The 'pile-on goes on and on'.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Jesus...what a ridiculous take, Utterly craven clinging on to a lie, started by people on here. He didn't threaten or abuse her online. Another lie.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Honest and forthright answering is often portrayed as a 'carcrash' by those who disagree with what is being said. No problem accepting that the anti SF posters would disagree.
landofthetree wrote: » Sinn Féin's MEPs voted against a new trade deal which will gradually eliminate tariffs on goods moving between the EU and Singapore over the next five years. The party, along with Independent MEPs Luke 'Ming' Flanagan and Nessa Childers, went against the landmark deal earlier this week.https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/sf-opposed-new-eu-free-trade-deal-with-singapore-37821965.html They are just like Trump. Trump Fein. In government they will veto free trade costing us thousands of jobs.
Solutionking wrote: » The person who had to first go to the press because of SF, then had to follow this up with a online tweet to stop the abuse. Just because the lady is too nice to call him the xxxxx he is, you are using it as an excuse?(sorry I don't like that word myself either) Do you think a friend threatens someone and abuses them online ?
blanch152 wrote: » Whenever you hear a Sinn Fein spokesperson talk about something that happened in the past, the safest and most accurate assumption is that it is a lie.
jm08 wrote: » She says she was contacted by fellow members of Ogra who asked her to bring her complaints through the proper channels. Every voluntary organisation operates through a committee. You can't have office holders doing solo runs. What she should do is show some respect for her fellow Ogra members by listening to her fellow members and follow the rules.
FrancieBrady wrote: » It is Christine O'Mahony's view of a 'friend'. BECAUSE she said it.
For Forks Sake wrote: » Au contraire Francois, it was an absolute car crash.https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/#/podcasts/series/32758
For Forks Sake wrote: » I would be really intrigued to know what "very important role" Stanley, who didn't stand for election for SF until 1999, played in the peace process. :rolleyes:https://twitter.com/Ballymagash_T/status/1335697503765860358
FrancieBrady wrote: » Incredibly forthright and honest interview from MLMD on Claire Byrne and a lot of it needs to be said particularly 'There is no shared history of what happened on this island'.
Solutionking wrote: » It does give a view into what you call a friend To most people it is someone to maybe go to pub, or have over for dinner, few drinks nice conversation. To Francie it is someone who comes over to your house to threaten you and then abuse you online. Funny description of a "friend" to me
Triangle wrote: » More likely he went to have a word as he didn't want it written down so it could be screenshot and shared. That's the only viable reason I'd see for having a face to face 'word'. But I'm sure it'll be portrayed as just a friendly chat ofc.
jm08 wrote: » 'Free' Trade still doesn't exist no matter how much you want to believe it. There are always trades such as giving up some of your sovereignty (which is fine if you understand that is what happens). Its ok to disagree with giving up part of your soverignity as well.
blanch152 wrote: » Suspected this post was about getting ahead of the bad news, so had a listen to the interview. Car Crash doesn't suffice to describe it. Brian Stanley is given a week off because Mary-Lou has a duty of care to members, but no duty of care needed for ordinary members who can have people calling to their door day and night telling them to delete tweets!! Glad to have on record her view that Warrenpoint was justified.
FrancieBrady wrote: » He went to the house as a friend and left as a friend. Good enough for me that there was no bullying or intimidation despite your characterisation of it.
jm08 wrote: » Whistleblowing? What was being blown? As a PRO for Ogra Sinn Fein, she speaks for Ogra Sinn Fein. She says she was contacted by fellow members of Ogra who asked her to bring her complaints through the proper channels. Every voluntary organisation operates through a committee. You can't have office holders doing solo runs. What she should do is show some respect for her fellow Ogra members by listening to her fellow members and follow the rules.
landofthetree wrote: » "What protection teaches us, is to do to ourselves in time of peace what enemies seek to do to us in time of war." Henry George
blanch152 wrote: » Shoot the whistleblower time again. I don't know of any other organisation that polices its members in that way. I know that for many Sinn Fein members this is hard to understand because it is what they are used to, but no normal voluntary organisation behaves like that.
blanch152 wrote: » When Stanley apologises to Varadkar next week, and he will, will you then finally accept that his tweet about Varadkar was dog-whistle homophobia? It is not just her who thinks it was wrong that he came to the house, it is most normal people who think it is wrong. It is very easy for a white middle-class male of privilege to say there was no intimidation, but you aren't the vulnerable young woman the subject of the intimidation. Your posts have repeatedly demonstrated a failure to understand this, going back as far as the Mairia Cahill threads.
jm08 wrote: » There is no such thing as 'free' trade.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I have said Stanley's tweet on Kilmichael/Narrow Water was insensitive and he was right to apologise for that. Triumphalism is wrong. There was no 'intimidation' or 'heavy's' at her door is what I am claiming. But a friend, who left the house STILL a friend. I fully respect her right to think it was wrong that he came to the house, but as others have pointed out, she doesn't seem to understand what being a member of an organisation is. That's a different issue.
