smurgen wrote: » From a lad that liked a post calling the Relatives for Justice headcases and likes another gloating about the strength of the union it's clear your Helen Lovejoy act is a front. You supported Greens allegedly but in truth you seem to follow unionist belief. Therefore your views on Irish politics is not reliable.
blanch152 wrote: » Attacking the poster for some unrelated trivia, sign of desperation again. I suppose you also think more Warrenpoints would have been a good thing?
smurgen wrote: » No I think it's important to note your views on victims when your were moralising on another poster. Just so everyone knows. Dare I say it the lack of respect for catholic victims is almost bigoted.
blanch152 wrote: » Oh dear God, just think about what you just wrote. I used to have some respect for your views, but you have stepped outside the pale with this. Wishing death, mayhem and terrorism on anyone is just horrible. I am sure you will get thanks from the usual suspects, but this lack of humanity and empathy is horrific.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » Empathy? The people filmed beating the sh!t out of peaceful protesters for sectarian supremacist reasons were f*cking monsters, blanch. The fewer of that kind of thug we have to share a planet with, the better. I have as much sympathy for people like them as I have for the victims of gangland shootings who were shot in retaliation for their own scumbaggery. I make no distinction between a member of the RUC or Parachute Regiment getting killed in a retaliatory attack and David Byrne or Robbie Lawlor getting shot in a gang feud. The difference between you and me seems to be extremely simple. You regard the RUC as a civilian police force which for the most part was a mere law and order force that had the best interests of society at heart. I regard them as essentially Ireland's KKK. Of course we're going to come down on opposing sides when the question of whether they deserved to have their violence met with violence comes up.
blanch152 wrote: » The difference between you and me is that you see the killing of a human being as a reason to celebrate and I don’t. What did 19-year old Anthony Wood do to deserve to leave only his burnt pelvis for his family? You disgust me, defending the sociopaths who carried out that ambush.
blanch152 wrote: » Nauseating nonsense, unlike you and your ilk, I condemn all terrorism.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Have to say, I haven't heard a stronger interview given by MLMD. Not just saying it because SF are under pressure. But she didn't flinch on any of the issues there. And I thought Stanley was going to resign myself. Not sure now that he will.
Cluedo Monopoly wrote: » Yeah she finished strong but was rattled about some story about a senior SF member calling to someone's house to tell them to stop criticising SF. She does sound very annoyed by all this. Stanley should have resigned ages ago.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Rattled? She emphatically said she would as leader of her cummann have not the slightest hesitation doing it herself. Rattled?
bennyl10 wrote: » She attempted to justify intimidation of a ogra SF member That isn’t a good interview at all.
Cluedo Monopoly wrote: » Yeah she finished strong but was rattled about some story about a senior SF member calling to some member's house to tell them to stop criticising SF. She does sound very annoyed by all this. Stanley should have resigned ages ago.
Ireland2020 wrote: » Leo should have resigned after leaking confidential documents to some chap he's not even friends with Politicians can do what they want and have no consequences now. FFG or the Greens can't say anything either as they supported the leaker
hatrickpatrick wrote: » No. I have repeatedly stated that attacks on civilians are unacceptable.
I am merely pointing out that to many people, myself included, members of either the RUC or British Army were 100% fair game for violent attacks after how they behaved towards the oppressed minority in the region.
That's where I draw the line, and I'm only arguing with those who state that the RUC should be regarded as a civilian police force and afforded the same level of outrage when targeted as a random British civilian having a pint in a pub - what a bunch of bullsh!t.
Might have hastened the defeat of the bigoted, discriminatory regime those f*ckers were enforcing through their attacks on nationalist protesters.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Justify intimidation? Where was that? She said that she as leader of her own Cummann would have done the same thing. If the leader of the local party can't do that, then the whole party whip, party rules structure has to be looked at. Exactly the same thing. There is no suggestion (except in the heads of those with SHinners under the bed) that this was a visit by 'heavies' or intimidation. The girl herself was tweeting about her 'friendship' with him.
blanch152 wrote: » So Mary-Lou would have bullied the vulnerable young woman too. Good to know. The girl was shocked by the visit. You would be ok then with Drew Harris going over to Maurice McCabe's house and telling him to shut up and toe the Garda line?
in January 2014, McGuinness said: “Roughly in February 2014, it was becoming clear that McCabe and his family were not in a position to take much more of this. I had witnessed this man being destroyed year on year [since I met him in 2011]. I don’t know how the man is sitting here at the Tribunal today.
Cluedo Monopoly wrote: » To be fair, previous Garda commissioners did an awful lot worse under the noses of a few Fine Gael justice ministers. Apart from Leo and McGuinness (FF), McCabe was abused by previous FFG governments.
blanch152 wrote: » I am not the one saying that any such bullying is ok. Francie and others see no problem with leaders of organisations calling round unannounced to people's houses telling them to shut their mouth.
Without hearing all the evidence, Mr Kenny despatched his most senior official to the Garda chief's home late at night - after which he stood down - and the Taoiseach has since tried to "hide, twist and turn" to cover his actions, said Mr Martin. Accusing the coalition government of refusing to be open and honest with people, Mr Martin said details had to be dragged out of the Taoiseach as he refused to answer questions on the issue for 18 months. "The departure of the head of an independent police force due to pressure from the head of government and the attempt to hide this pressure would be a major scandal in any democratic society," he said.
Cluedo Monopoly wrote: » Indeed. They should send someone else to do it As I said before....FF, FG and SF are inherently dishonest parties. But Callinan deserved to walk the plank, he is a disgrace. His successor was worse. Where are those missing phones?
bennyl10 wrote: » so a phone call wouldnt have sufficed? It was necessary for the party to send someone to a youth members house, to tell them it was required to delete a tweet that was critical of the party? That's so far past the whip system, is 10000% intimidation, and from a party with SF's record for bullying is not something that should be let just wash away.
Floppybits wrote: » There is not much difference in the behaviors of FF, FG or SF. You can imagine the amount of stuff that is going on in each of the parties that we are not hearing about. I am sure it is not all sweetness and light in the parties. . Just have to look at the infighting that goes on in local clubs to see what would be going in political parties.
