bubblypop wrote: » Not all Muslim majority countries no.
seenitall wrote: » Sunni Muslims in Bosnia,( i.e. Bosniaks),for example. They are the result of the Turkish/Ottoman conquest of the parts of Balkans, and have been developing in a very secular, European-values manner throughout the subsequent centuries. Women working and equal to men, no headscarves, a small number of children, just completely European in cultural outlook and lifestyle; the only way you would know a person was Muslim is by their name; they would have been very mixed and mixing with the other two major nationalities in Bosnia. The above has unfortunately been changing since the Saudi money and mosques have found their way into the Balkans as well. The problem with Islam is cultural - where Islam is practiced in a benign and secular way, there is no problem. Where it starts aggresively ideologising and employing fire and brimstone discourse, Watch out.
Deleted User wrote: » Nah. Some people are doing great work, and helping those in need. Let's not put everyone who works in an NGO into the same boat. Some people do volunteer with the best of intentions. I did volunteer work a decade ago, and met many selfless people, working in foreign countries, doing wonderful work. The problem is that the administrators will be interested in greater funding, and that means broadening the scope of their operations. NGO's operate under a business premise, so, in spite of being non-profit, they'll still be interested in sustainability. And that leads them to questionable decisions, and agendas. It's politics. The guys on the ground who volunteer to help and have no skin in the game, are the reasons why NGOs first become so popular. They met a need. Unfortunately, as time goes by, any organisation becomes inward looking and selfish to it's own needs. It's the same with any organisation, be it, Human Rights Watch, the UN, or an NGO. I feel that NGO's should be broken up regularly after a period of time, and nobody should be able to make a career out of them. Volunteers, fine, but with limited opportunities to operate within the organisations.
bubblypop wrote: » This says nothing?
irishproduce wrote: » Then those volunteering should walk away. Show it up for what it is
seenitall wrote: » What is happening in Bosnia now is very interesting. Young men from Morocco, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Iraq (AKA ‘migrants’) with no evidenced identities have been absolutely swarming the place, selling packets of tissues at the traffic junctions, and otherwise making nuisances of themselves, begging, thieving, breaking into unoccupied houses and eventually setting them on fire; and stabbing each other, as well as a rare random citizen, too. It’s a complete free for all, as the country is fragile, ethnically divided, and with useless, corrupt leadership. Laws are not being applied when crimes are committed by these migrants, as there is no political will to do so. They are all being shunted to the Bosniak kantons from the other two regions, but their co-religionists who live there are heartily sick of these newcomers’ lawlessness and chaos. From there they are trying, and succeeding after long time delays, to move westwards through Croatia, Slovenia and beyond, to the lucky western European nations that are these young men’s target destinations. The long time delays are due to the fact that the Croatian border forces are repelling them at the borders in a none-too-subtle manner (Croatia hopes to enter Schengen and is desperate to show to Brussels that it is up to the task of defending a Schengen border) so there is a natural bottleneck being created anew all the time in western Bosnia. Still, this border is almost impossible to properly police by Croatia in a civilised, or, shall we say, non-minefield manner, as it is very long. These nameless young men are entering EU every day. But I do feel for the Bosniaks, especially. Their peace and security have been sold off to the IOM by their leadership, as far as I can understand.
Deleted User wrote: » you made the statement about going to Pride parades in Muslim countries. I'm bisexual.
V8 Interceptor wrote: » I'd still love to hear about going to pride parades in Muslim countries. WTF?
biko wrote: » The only MENA country with a legal and proper LGBT parade is Israel. Since 2017 in Lebanon there is Beirut Pride but it's an "illegal" non-sanctioned event. There are small pockets of gay events in other countries like Tunisia, Jordan etc. but to be gay in any Arab country is punishable by death or prison.
Gervais08 wrote: » I’m willing to bet that never ever happened!!! The nearest you’d get would be Turkey pre-Erdogan.
bubblypop wrote: » Bet all you want. I was at more then one while living in a Muslim country. You do realise that not all Muslim majority countries are strict Islamic states right?
Gervais08 wrote: » Lift with your back when lifting heavy goalposts, you’ll put something out. Have you still not managed to say the country ? Hilarious.
bubblypop wrote: » I'm not sure why I have to out myself on here to keep random strangers happy
[Deleted User] wrote: » I honestly don't care if there was Pride events in Muslim countries, because it does nothing to counter what I said. Having a parade doesn't show that Homosexuals are accepted, or even tolerated within a society. .. and even if it did, they would be the extreme minority of Islamic nations, and likely to have changed to be more traditional in the time since. I suspect he's referring to Turkey.
biko wrote: » You claim to participate in something but facts we have presented say the opposite.You haven't said what Muslim countries or years. Perhaps if you elaborate more it will help.
ikeano29 wrote: » Where is Elizabeth from?
ExMachina1000 wrote: » No indication of origin Thankfully a forever home was found in 7 months and a college place studying "social juice " has been earned.
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