IAMAMORON wrote: 115529864 Dessie would constantly be fiddling with the telephone wires and setting booby traps
mynamejeff wrote: » but they aren't a party like the other parties are they ? a knock on the door at night by some powerful un named party associate is normal ? no party whip in sf/ira ? or is the nutting squad still going even with story dead
walshb wrote: » The usual nonsense.. SF are not governing. You are pretty much espousing what they have been espousing. Protesting and criticising non stop from the sidelines.. No real zeal to actually take the reins of power and govern and make the decisions needed.. FF/FG/Greens are governing...that is the important point. But, to you, an obvious protest type voter, of course they are not..
Triangle wrote: » That has to be the biggest load of tripe I've heard. If I'm a member of a club/group/political party and someone has done wrong - it's my duty to call it out. This idea of protecting a group for the benefit of that group over all else is incredibly wrong on so many levels. You'd do well in the trump campaign with that thinking.
FrancieBrady wrote: » He was her next door neighbour and he has been named by her.
Finty Lemon wrote: » More insidious that way
walshb wrote: » In a free for all social media capacity? Mother of Jaysus, I’d hate to have you on any team I’d be in.. An out and out me feiner...
Finty Lemon wrote: » FF have been governing well after a jittery start. Right now Michael Martin, McGrath, Donohoe and Coveney look like the only grown ups in the Dail. The opposition know it too
Triangle wrote: » That's the difference between us then. My morals and beliefs don't bend for a tribe.
Kraftwerk wrote: » To any rational person a political party getting in touch with members and having them call into neighbours houses to insist students remove comments from their social media page because it makes them look bad is worrying. To the shinners it's called a "neighbourly chat" . Bit like how that former SF councillor water boarding that lad in the garage was just a friendly warning because he thought he was gonna steal his bike.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Story has grown legs. Who said or how do you know 'a political party got in touch wirh members'?
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Mr B.... please..... the whole country Still doesn’t have definite knowledge as to whether Mr Adams was a member if the IRA or not. Would you ever stop this auld arse boxing.... SF is like a black hole in space, #notanormalparty.
Bambi wrote: » If Dessie was enginering devices back in the day it was a brave provo who'd plant one, Dessie aint the sharpest tool in the box
IAMAMORON wrote: » Not as funny as the Corkman burning Northern Bank notes in his back garden, poor phucker ran out of petrol.
Kraftwerk wrote: » Grown legs? It's the original statement about him showing up at her house. She said he told her parents that he received a phone call from head office about her tweets and she needs to remove them. She said it was inappropriate for him to call to the house. Meanwhile you've invented your own little story about a neighbourly chat over the fence.
FrancieBrady wrote: » So your evidence is the person making the claim. Alrighty!
mynamejeff wrote: » you think its a lie then ? why would one party member make up such a story about another party member?
IAMAMORON wrote: » Ask that young fella from Wexford, he got some first hand knowledge at a very high price. Only 20 years of age. Shocking stuff.
Kraftwerk wrote: » My source that it happened is the person who has given a detailed account including quotes of what was said while the person named and the party have not denied it. It's looking likely that it's true. By all means show me a contradictory account instead of making up your own version of events.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Why indeed. Because for you guys a chat for a neighbour isn't insidious enough? What do you guys make of the 'whip' system in a party by the way? Do you call that bullying...just wondering. When a leader knocks back an upstart TD = bullying? In this instance, like in all claim and counter claim incidents, I would like to hear both sides of a story and any independent information relevant before jumping up and down in outrage. It would be why I didn't rush to call for resignations in the GolfGate affair or in the Leo The Leak incident or the funerals. Let us hear all the info first.
walshb wrote: » Nobody said anything about turning a blind eye.. The tweet here was out. We all know about it There has been condemnation.. Your own members jumping in on the attack is the issue. Publicly online as well.. You clearly have no concept of loyalty, due process, internal rules etc relating to this. There absolutely has to be damage limitation and control, and when your own party members want to be free to do as they please relating to your party...that is the issue.. This person was saying nothing that none of us already knew. SF were dealing with it. They acknowledged it. We all knew of it.. Then she thinks it’s acceptable to publicly go online to keep stirring it against her own party.. FFS..she is completely in the wrong in how she went about this. She was looking for attention. Plain and simple. At the expense of further damaging the party she chose to join.
FrancieBrady wrote: » So your evidence is coming from the person making the claim. Alrighty, I say again. All I have said is 'it may be this other way' and it may not. If you went into a court you would expect to be challenged on a claim and have people give their version.
Bubbaclaus wrote: » I'm related to him. He finds it funny too. Probably not at the time though.
mynamejeff wrote: » where did the story come from ? A sf/ira member ? or do you think she is a donniebrasco plant like of of the shinnerbots out there ? do sf/ira have the whip system ? if so why wasn't it used here ? there is only one side here though sf/ira . nothing to do with any other party in spite of some of you trying to make it ,
