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Taoiseach shocked and dismayed at Sinn Fein TDs tweet on IRA attacks

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Taoiseach Micheál Martin said he was “shocked and dismayed” by a controversial tweet sent by a Sinn Féin TD that referenced IRA attacks during the War of Independence and the Troubles.

On Saturday, the Laois-Offaly TD tweeted in reference to the Kilmichael Ambush in 1920 and the Narrow Water Massacre in Warrenpoint, Co Down in 1979, claiming they were “the 2 IRA operations that taught the elite of d British army and the establishment the cost of occupying Ireland. Pity for everyone they were such slow learners”.

Eighteen British soldiers were killed at Warrenpoint by the Provisional IRA on August 27th 1979 a deaf civilian was also killed after soldiers fired across the border into the Irish republic after the attack out of anger and rage.

In the 1920 incident at Kilmichael, a total of 17 British soldiers were killed, alongside three members of the War of Independence-era IRA.

Mr Martin said that the tweet by Laois-Offaly TD Brian Stanley was “appalling” and has done “huge damage”

Do you really think the tweet was all that bad or is Michael just point scoring?

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V8 Interceptor

blanch152 wrote: »

Most of the tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists were running with it.

What, like there was going to be a global pandemic this year? I remember people saying that this time last year were called conspiraloons.

Ireland2020

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Sounds like Stanley will be gone from his position as chair of the PAC by this time tomorrow, either that or he'll be suspended from Sinn Fein, maybe both?

Those three tweets, specially the last one have done him no favours outside the SF/IRA bubble.

Will he yeh? Do you want a bet on this?

Stanley goes prepare for the calls for Leo and McEntee to go as what they have done is far worse

blanch152

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

What, like there was going to be a global pandemic this year? I remember people saying that this time last year were called conspiraloons.

No, chicken from China causes Covid. Apologies for the alliteration but that was the conspiracy theory promoted by Stanley.

Traumadoc

blanch152 wrote: »

Yeah, Stanley was particularly idiotic to run with that one, don't you agree?

Irish shellfish still banned in China, as are many other foods -

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-china-frozenfood/chinas-sweeping-covid-controls-put-frozen-food-importers-on-ice-idINKBN27T0Z6

Normal One

blanch152 wrote: »

No, chicken from China causes Covid. Apologies for the alliteration but that was the conspiracy theory promoted by Stanley.

It isn't that far-fetched

https://time.com/5899803/coronavirus-frozen-food-china/

blanch152

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/brian-stanleys-wife-says-public-funds-should-be-removed-from-rte-when-sinn-fein-wins-power-39826258.html

The fightback begins!

"Cllr Caroline Dwane Stanley made the comments on Facebook where she argued that when Sinn Féin get into Government it should remove all public funds from RTÉ."

"In the comments beneath the post she added: "When SF get into Government one of the first things it should do is remove all public funds from RTÉ.""

Shoot the messenger again. When I talk about the threat to democracy from Sinn Fein, these are the type of references that I mean. There is no hesitation to resort to threats when under pressure.

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2020/1204/1182305-brian-stanley-tweet/

Paschal Donohoe puts it well here:

"Their tone on politics, their tone about how they speak about those who have different political views to them, at many times and in many cases, I don't believe it's acceptable.

"And I believe it poisons the well of how we debate politics in our country."

We see it on these boards where those who oppose Sinn Fein are accused of lying and agendas and all sorts by scurrilous posters. Attack the messenger, try to discredit them, try to censor them, threaten them etc. All part of a nasty poisonous Sinn Fein culture that extends across the media spectrum and enunciated so well by Stanley's wife.

Ireland2020

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/brian-stanleys-wife-says-public-funds-should-be-removed-from-rte-when-sinn-fein-wins-power-39826258.html

The fightback begins!

"Cllr Caroline Dwane Stanley made the comments on Facebook where she argued that when Sinn Féin get into Government it should remove all public funds from RTÉ."

"In the comments beneath the post she added: "When SF get into Government one of the first things it should do is remove all public funds from RTÉ.""

Shoot the messenger again. When I talk about the threat to democracy from Sinn Fein, these are the type of references that I mean. There is no hesitation to resort to threats when under pressure.

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2020/1204/1182305-brian-stanley-tweet/

Paschal Donohoe puts it well here:

"Their tone on politics, their tone about how they speak about those who have different political views to them, at many times and in many cases, I don't believe it's acceptable.

"And I believe it poisons the well of how we debate politics in our country."

We see it on these boards where those who oppose Sinn Fein are accused of lying and agendas and all sorts by scurrilous posters. Attack the messenger, try to discredit them, try to censor them, threaten them etc. All part of a nasty poisonous Sinn Fein culture that extends across the media spectrum and enunciated so well by Stanley's wife.

Why should the public fund RTÉ?

The viewing figures on RTÉ do not justify it anymore

blanch152

Traumadoc wrote: »

Irish shellfish still banned in China, as are many other foods -

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-china-frozenfood/chinas-sweeping-covid-controls-put-frozen-food-importers-on-ice-idINKBN27T0Z6

Oh dear, get support for a conspiracy theory from another one.

"Such scrutiny has drawn flak from industry bodies. In September, the International Commission on Microbiological Specifications for Foods called restrictions around food imports “not scientifically justified.”"

"he U.S. Centers for Disease Control says there is “no evidence” to suggest food is associated with spreading the virus, while the World Health Organization (WHO) says it’s not necessary to disinfect food packaging. New Zealand meanwhile ruled out a theory that an August outbreak was connected to a cold-chain storage facility"

blanch152

Ireland2020 wrote: »

Why should the public fund RTÉ?

The viewing figures on RTÉ do not justify it anymore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_broadcasting

Have a read of this, it explains it better than I could.

Ireland2020

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40031435.html

Conspracicy theories are no good to anyone

Ireland2020

blanch152 wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_broadcasting

Have a read of this, it explains it better than I could.

So no u have no reason why we should fund RTÉ?

I thought so

Losing money every day but paying top dollar to clowns like Tubs

Floppybits

Ireland2020 wrote: »

So no u have no reason why we should fund RTÉ?

I thought so

Losing money every day but paying top dollar to clowns like Tubs

Ah but if we don't pay Tubs or Duffy the big bucks they will poached from RTE to the BBC. Well that is what RTE tell us.

blanch152

Ireland2020 wrote: »

So no u have no reason why we should fund RTÉ?

I thought so

Losing money every day but paying top dollar to clowns like Tubs

Did you read the link? It's all in there.

Ireland2020

blanch152 wrote: »

Did you read the link? It's all in there.

I don't tend to read Wikipedia (a site I can go in now and change whatever is said in it)

RTÉ are not needed anymore

Out having party's while telling us to stay at home. Every single one of them who attended should not be getting a penny more from the public.

Nobotty

Ireland2020 wrote: »

Why should the public fund RTÉ?

The viewing figures on RTÉ do not justify it anymore

I think RTE is a valuable service and should be funded
I can't stand Tubs and do think salaries should be capped in RTE for the stars
Let them go to virgin media or the UK if they want
Currently virgin media stars are moving to RTE for higher wages

Amirani

RT&#201 wrote: »

Meanwhile, Sinn Féin's Louise O'Reilly has said that the tone of the tweet in 2017 referencing Leo Varadkar by her party colleague Brian Stanley's "was not acceptable".

Speaking to RTÉ News, she said that "if any offence was caused, of course Brian needs to engage and he needs to have those discussions with people".

I think this is the right response from Louise O'Reilly. Stanley should publicly clarify his comments and not claim that no engagement is needed.

If Louise O'Reilly is saying this, you'd assume Mary Lou etc. will be saying similar to Stanley.

blanch152

Amirani wrote: »

I think this is the right response from Louise O'Reilly. Stanley should publicly clarify his comments and not claim that no engagement is needed.

If Louise O'Reilly is saying this, you'd assume Mary Lou etc. will be saying similar to Stanley.

The problem is that he needs to publicly apologise to Leo Varadkar, and that sticks in the throat for him. It also is a problem for Sinn Fein because it solidifies the idea of Sinn Fein on social media being responsible for the racist and homophobic attacks on Leo.

expectationlost

https://twitter.com/sandra_hurley/status/1334892601913319426 December 15th thats a long time away its almost a McEntee tactic

expectationlost

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

I'm no fan of SF but his comments on chinese chicken were no more or less hyperbolic fear inducing nonsense than the likes of Prof Sam McConkey, Holohan and the rest have subjected us to since early February 4 plus times per week.

In terms of public Covid brain farts it doesn't rank in the same league as Simon Harris (Covid the 19th, no pubs until theres a vaccine)- a buffoon of such magnitude they had to invent a department for him so he could be shuffled away from making a fool of himself as health minister every other day.

it is worse because it could feed anti-Chinese racism

FrancieBrady

expectationlost wrote: »

https://twitter.com/sandra_hurley/status/1334892601913319426 December 15th thats a long time away its almost a McEntee tactic

Playing FG FF Greens at their own game. They can't complain.

blanch152

expectationlost wrote: »

https://twitter.com/sandra_hurley/status/1334892601913319426 December 15th thats a long time away its almost a McEntee tactic

Waiting to see did anyone find anything else.

Should keep him in the news though.

James Brown

Hopefully FF/FG/Greens tacticians never realise hiding behind SF doesn't work.
Imagine you're critical of government for good reason and all you hear is SFSFSF. Wouldn't draw you in to voting for them I'd imagine.

Ireland2020

expectationlost wrote: »

https://twitter.com/sandra_hurley/status/1334892601913319426 December 15th thats a long time away its almost a McEntee tactic

See Sinn Féin can play that game too

Amirani

expectationlost wrote: »

https://twitter.com/sandra_hurley/status/1334892601913319426 December 15th thats a long time away its almost a McEntee tactic

Think that's a good move from Mary Lou to be honest.

Any talking he's done on the matter has made things worse. At this point, should sit at home and think quite carefully about things before he speaks on then again. Much of the attention will have gone away then anyway.

golfball37

Bowie wrote: »

Hopefully FF/FG/Greens tacticians never realise hiding behind SF doesn't work.
Imagine you're critical of government for good reason and all you hear is SFSFSF. Wouldn't draw you in to voting for them I'd imagine.

The don’t even realize it’s the number one factor in the rise of SF. The more they blame them for everything the more people turn against the mainstream parties.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Playing FG FF Greens at their own game. They can't complain.

Boggling at the idea that SF "dont complain", here or everywhere else

[Deleted User]

Amirani wrote: »

Think that's a good move from Mary Lou to be honest.

Any talking he's done on the matter has made things worse. At this point, should sit at home and think quite carefully about things before he speaks on then again. Much of the attention will have gone away then anyway.

Agreed, fair play to her and I'd think she will (rightly) point to it as a contrast to how FG/FF have handled their muckups lately

Credit where due

[Deleted User]

Is he getting the sack? Sinn Fein would be calling for such action if the shoe was on the other foot.

Weed out all these spoofers from all parties.

Ireland2020

6 wrote: »

Is he getting the sack? Sinn Fein would be calling for such action if the shoe was on the other foot.

Weed out all these spoofer from all parties.

After Leo and McEntee got off without even a slap on the wrists, not a chance will SF sack him

If they did, it would put serious pressure on the Leo and McEntee.

They both will be praying this is the end of it

[Deleted User]

Ireland2020 wrote: »

After Leo and McEntee got off without even a slap on the wrists, not a chance will SF sack him

If they did, it would put serious pressure on the Leo and McEntee.

They both will be praying this is the end of it

So, they are all the same. They all claim the morale high ground and so many fall for it.