Solutionking wrote: » Please note I am all for nurses getting a pay rise. They are the ones doing the work here and lets not forget that.
McMurphy wrote: » So they never got paid except that time they did in fact get paid. Wut Seldom you see a poster contradict themselves in successive sentences, but slow hand clap for good auld solution king, shefwedfan will never be missed while you're still around.
Fann Linn wrote: » Can't think of any other virus which shut down the world's economy SK.
Solutionking wrote: » Based on the comments across Twitter the issue now seems that every Student or apprentice wants to get paid. This is f**king hilarious. Really the new generation is going to crash and burn.
McMurphy wrote: » So they never got paid except that time they did in fact get paid. Wut Seldom you see a poster contradict themselves in successive sentences, but slow hand clap for good auld solution king, .
Solutionking wrote: » So you think a nurse doesn't have to worry about any other virus? she walks into work in the morning and says "Ahh sure I don't need to care abotu HIV because it didn't shut down the World economy?" I doubt a nurse thinks that, do you?
grayzer75 wrote: » It's like the auld "I'm not being racist, but" line.
average_runner wrote: » She now has to worry about spreading a virus that can kill and no cure for it right now. Never had that concern before
Solutionking wrote: » Student nurses ALWAYS do work experience. This is nothing new. They are always ptu onto wards and seen as a extra pair of hands to help the nurses. NOTHING has changed. They never got paid before, this is clear before they start the course. What is so confusing about this?
Solutionking wrote: » Are you actually serious? Just think about that for a few mins and come back to me.
blanch152 wrote: » Why are you bringing Brian Stanley's latest excuse into this discussion?
average_runner wrote: » Just because they never got paid before makes it right now. Same sex marriages weren't always allowed but are now, thank god
average_runner wrote: » You come back to me
Solutionking wrote: » Then that is a discussion, you also need to consisder all the other students who don't get paid, get the exact tax bill it is going to cost and vote on it. Lets see how many people want it when they are taking a huge cut of wages.
Fann Linn wrote: » They were able to pull €12, 000,000 out of their ar$e pocket 2 weeks ago for greyhounds. I'd value a nurse more. You obviously don't SK.
Solutionking wrote: » Oh wiat another baiting post. Quelle surprise. Maybe try to discuss the topic.
Bubbaclaus wrote: » There's clear bias in your post with the name calling, so not sure if there is any point in engaging in a back and forth here. If you think they are scumbags then you're not exactly going to look at the facts of the matter and form a coherent debate.
Solutionking wrote: » Really these student don't really understand what is going onMeanwhile, final-year student nurse Áine said she is on her ‘supernumerary placement’ which means that she is supposed to be there, “purely to be taught, to observe and to learn.” “When the hospital environment is so busy, when the staff are so stressed, the opportunities for learning decrease significantly and the opportunity to ask questions disappears,” she said. “You are there as an extra pair of hands and you’re used as an extra pair of hands so we should have some sort of financial compensation for that. Hate to tell Aine but a student nurse in her final year was always seen as an extra member of staff, it was never to swan around doing nothing and asking the odd question.
average_runner wrote: » Can you name the other student sectors?
average_runner wrote: » If she is doing work she should be paid. When I did my third placement in college in IT, we got paid.What's the difference?
blanch152 wrote: » Student work placements are everywherehttps://www.wit.ie/about_wit/industry_links/work_placement2 "Almost 80% of courses at WIT have a large, credit-bearing element of work placement, international study, new venture initiative or community service" /https://extendedcampus.cit.ie/studentworkplacement "This commitment to student development means that each year approximately 2000 students, from a broad range of disciplines, are placed in organisations across Munster and beyond."https://www.tudublin.ie/for-students/career-development-centre/work-placements/https://www.dkit.ie/about-dkit/dkit-careers-service/placement-office/about-work-placements.html "Work placement is a central feature of a number of programmes of study across DkIT, where students participate in a structured and assessed period of work experience in a relevant professional setting." Essentially, it is harder to name a sector where student work placement doesn't take place.
Solutionking wrote: » Nah you made the statement. Tell us how a nurse never had to walk in prior to covid and worry about a non cureable disease. No problem waiting
Bowie wrote: » Sadly, they're helping save lives and applauded by ministers and then shat on by ministers.
blanch152 wrote: » They would be paid for the duration of the crisis where they are working as HCAs. Be honest and set the full facts out. They are not now working as HCAs, hence they are not being paid. It really is a success story the way the HSE has adapted to the Covid-19 crisis and doesn't need the same level of assistance from student nurses in December that it did in March.
Bowie wrote: » That's right SK you go after the nurses to defend your team. Good man.
