blanch152 wrote: » Oh the constant whataboutery nonsense. You mentioned bending the knee, I pointed out why many people cannot bend their knees in Ireland - the criminal thugs of the IRA who were supported by Sinn Fein. Kneecapping was an IRA tactic, not a British one. Why would I mention the British? Man up and condemn Stanley. Your tired excuses for Sinn Fein have run out of road.
franciebrady wrote: Not sure why people are constantly surprised a Shinner would praise the IRA tbh. Kilmichael = good. Narrow Water = bad. Both were equally savage acts of violence where real people died.
FrancieBrady wrote: » And blanch? Any mention for all the others injured and killed by the violence perpretrated on this island? More of the 'look the other way' hypocrisy here like Gregory Campbell this morning. 'We can celebrate battles and killings every year and we demand we are allowed do that, and when we fraternise with unrepentent Loyalists we are not endorsing them...oh No, we are holier than that crowd over there. Or Charlie and Leo and the cohort on here, 'what savages are we that cannot. forgive and forget and pay respects to the Black and Tans?' On it goes. As I say until there is a mature conversation about these things these issues will continue.
Nobotty wrote: » Problem is,its pc enough to talk about founding of the state battles because a century has passed and there's noone on the island offended There's still the guts of a million people on the island who welcome the British army's presence here and whose votes are needed for a UI Stanley made a slip,thats all,just like yer man in waterford The views are no secret,they need to be kept to meetings or in the home not flaunted in public Its not pc to talk about the black and tans because there is a significant group in the state offended by their actions Thats also a mistake,a much bigger profile one that I suspect won't be repeated either
FrancieBrady wrote: » Well if people want to cod themselves while accepting there are those who welcome the British Army, that's their own business. There was and will always be more than them living here.
blanch152 wrote: » It seems there will always be thuggish Sinn Fein elements letting the Irish down. Stanley should be shoved back under the rock he slid out of.
Nobotty wrote: » Doesn't matter You have to bring THEM with you No United Ireland without them
McMurphy wrote: » Stanley's greatest crime was using the "d" instead of "the" before "British Army" Narrow water was a fairly successful operation by the provos in fairness. Stanley should have realised that today's society is too politically correct and right on to publicly voice his admiration for it though. Kilmiachel good, narrow water bad?I've no problem with the tweet myself in case anyone was left with any doubt.
blanch152 wrote: » Nah, they believe they just have to outbreed the Protestants, that they don't have to give even a millimetre, let the demographics do it. Don't enlighten them to the stagnating vote share for nationalists in the North.
FrancieBrady wrote: » No, that was why there are 6 counties not 9 and 70,000 Protestants were abandoned to the 'Free State'. Unionism feared the Taigs would 'out breed them' because people like Craig believed they 'bred like rabbits'. Know the history blanch before putting the foot in it.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Given the roaring and shouting from SF bots over recent events, surprising that there was no outcry over this tweet.
Hamsterchops wrote: » I too have suspected this for a long time. A United Ireland is the coming together of Southern Nationalists with Northern Nationalists, who they hope will outbreed Northern Unionists, ergo you get your United Ireland, not by uniting with Unionists, but by outbreeding them < this seems to be the plan, as there's zero hint of any kind of Unity with Unionists, and vice versa I should say. Regarding Stanley's tweet, well he's obviously a RA head in a suit, disgusting character by all accounts.
Bambi wrote: » I would have thought the plan for United Ireland is that a majority on both sides of the border vote for it, plain and simple Didnt realise there was some weird sectarian veto that had to be overcome, I mean, I know thats what created NI but times have moved on.
Hamsterchops wrote: » I have always hoped that if there was to be a "United Ireland" then it would involve the mutual coming together of the two cultures, the two traditions, the two colours, Green & Orange, but if a so called United Ireland is to be created by one tribe just outbreeding the other, then I can't see how that's Uniting the island with any kind of long standing stability or harmony
walshb wrote: » It's pathetic that some on here can't even condemn that tweet that was issued The guy himself admitted how wrong it was....even if he was happy to send it There is absolutely no place in today's society for people in powerful and influential positions to be peddling this....it's disgraceful Unionists or Nationalists!!
FrancieBrady wrote: » He outraged a few people who cannot grasp the hypocrisy of someone like Leo Varadkar standing proudly under a portrait of Michael Collins and haing a fit about saying something like Stanley said. This will happen again and again and Unionists, Nationalists, British and Partitionist will fall foul of it. Do we 'never mention' it ALL or just the selective 'sanitised by time' bits?
What is the big deal?, UP DA RA!!
"We note that Brian Stanley has deleted a tweet that was inappropriate and insensitive, and that he has apologised. "We all have a responsibility in this Decade of Centenaries to remember and commemorate the past in a respectful manner."
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Decent people have resigned for far less.
Solutionking wrote: » Every post from SF "But but but Leo something something something" :rolleyes:
