declanflynn wrote: » Dem Catholics are horid people
Junkyard Tom wrote: » https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nG0UvO7xi0 You should take a look at this documentary, it might help disabuse you of your Paisleyite views.
Hubertj wrote: » What do people make of the tweet by the SF TD Brian Stanley about some IRA ambushes 100 years ago? I’ve never heard of him before but I don’t think it is a good example to set in modern Ireland. Whilst he is a TD in the Republic it doesn’t really shine a good light on SF
downcow wrote: » Please don't sectarianise it, it only illuminates how you think. I think the Catholics in the SDLP, Alliance, UUP and DUP seem to have acted fine. It is the shinners, whatever their religion that keep dragging us back
downcow wrote: » Mind you can you imagine if a unionist MP said something similar about Bloody Sunday?
downcow wrote: » I am fairly certain that most unionists up north give most people in ROI a by ball on this. We have lived with the shinners masks slipping almost daily so I think we just feel, well sure thats what the shinners believe. Mind you can you imagine if a unionist MP said something similar about Bloody Sunday?https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/arlene-foster-write-dail-chair-over-sinn-fein-tds-shameful-tweet-about-ira-attacks-3051692
Junkyard Tom wrote: » Because shooting innocent people is the same the IRA targeting the Parachute Regiment who actually went on murder sprees in Derry and Belfast?
downcow wrote: » believe it or not i always felt almost more sorry for young mainland british soldiers killed here than I did for locals.
Most of them had no position or no interest in the politics of this place.
Hubertj wrote: » I think whether someone is nationalist or unionist they have to recognise this was a very stupid thing to tweet. It’s clearly the way he feels but that makes me wonder if he is fit to hold office. For there to be progress this crap needs to be consigned to history but I don’t mean forgotten about. It definitely shouldn’t be celebrated as this loser did.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Consign it all to history then. 1916, WoI, Civil War, Battle of the Boyne, WW1 and 2. Getting outraged because someone mentions a war/conflict is hypocritical otherwise.
Hubertj wrote: » Do you think it is appropriate for a sitting TD to celebrate people being murdered? It’s not about politics, it’s just wrong.
downcow wrote: » believe it or not i always felt almost more sorry for young mainland british soldiers killed here than I did for locals. Most of them had no position or no interest in the politics of this place. They were just doing a job. Likewise the young lads in Warrington and the Birmingham pub bomb victims.
Hqrry113 wrote: » They'd rather sign that than have mortar bombs flying into downing street while they're having their meetings.
Annd9 wrote: » I'd agree Tweeting about Warrenpoint is out of order but anything regarding the war of Independence is fair game . Imagine people being outraged by tweets about the D-day landings or other operations during WW1/2? Like it or not the British establishment were our version of the Germans , something a lot of people fail to grasp . My favourite is the line "the Irish would be speaking German if it wasn't for us plucky Brits " while not seeing the irony in that statement regarding our native language . Anyway back to the topic and question I've asked multiple times without an answer . If The north is a success why are so many people crossing the border to work ? From my experience on Building sites the last few years 25/30 % of the lads are crossing the border (that percentage gets higher the further north you go) seems strange if opportunities are a plenty up North .
declanflynn wrote: » Do tans have a lower IQ than the European average
Beltby wrote: » It will be interesting to see which region of the uk gets the vaccine last. I don't know which one it will be, but it will just be interesting.
downcow wrote: » Where can I start. What a bigoted blinkers post. I thought you would be ashamed of your countrymen, republicans and ira on the disgraceful pro-nazis and anti-Jewish behaviour. In 1940 the IRA leadership issued a statement outlining its position on the war. The statement made clear that if ‘German forces should land in Ireland, they will land . . . as friends. There publication also stated that Jews were bullies and like the English.
Your guesstimate claims between 50,000 & 100,000 people from NI are working on Roi buildings sites. What a ludicrous statement And not a single quote or stat to back it up. The biggest laugh of all is that you are claiming ni failure because of how many work elsewhere. I wish I had stats for how many Irish people are living and working in my nation. I would conservatively guess that it is at least 10 times how many move the other direction. Can we apply you measure of success/failure to ROI??????
Whilst there are no definitive data on the number of commuters who cross the Ireland-Northern Ireland border to work, based on the available estimates the Centre for Cross Border Studies’ Border People project suggests between 23,000 and 30,000 people are cross-border workers
downcow wrote: » Just to keep you updated beltby. Irish government is saying no vaccines in Ireland until 2021 NI assembly is saying vaccine rollout in NI expected to begin in 2 weeks. Watch this space as this will be an important measure on the success or otherwise of our two wee places. We constantly get health service claims on here with nothing to support them. This will be a very clear measure.
GPs in Northern Ireland are planning to deliver Covid-19 vaccines for people aged over 80 who do not live in care homes from 4 January. A letter sent to GP practices said "there is a need to plan for the earliest possible commencement" of the programme. The letter, first reported in The Irish News, was issued by the Health and Social Care Board (HSCB).
Health Minister Stephen Donnelly says Ireland could begin vaccinating people against Covid-19 in January.
downcow wrote: » Where can I start. What a bigoted blinkers post. I thought you would be ashamed of your countrymen, republicans and ira on the disgraceful pro-nazis and anti-Jewish behaviour. In 1940 the IRA leadership issued a statement outlining its position on the war. The statement made clear that if ‘German forces should land in Ireland, they will land . . . as friends. There publication also stated that Jews were bullies and like the English. Your guesstimate claims between 50,000 & 100,000 people from NI are working on Roi buildings sites. What a ludicrous statement And not a single quote or stat to back it up. The biggest laugh of all is that you are claiming ni failure because of how many work elsewhere. I wish I had stats for how many Irish people are living and working in my nation. I would conservatively guess that it is at least 10 times how many move the other direction. Can we apply you measure of success/failure to ROI??????
downcow wrote: » What are ‘tans’
Annd9 wrote: » I am absolutely ashamed of some of the views held towards Jewish refugees landing in Ireland during the war and if you investigated a little more you would see the republican movement were split between those views . I have also never stated my views towards the IRA so not sure why you brought that up .Thankfully we did not place them in internment camps or deport them unlike our neighbors . As of 2018 figures we had roughly 150,000 people employed in construction , my point of 25/30% of those people being from the north is simply my own experience . Granted I don't have any official figures but seeing as most are self employed or (RCT) it would be hard to get exact figures. 30-40,000 seems to be a reasonable guess though . I never once stated the ROI is a success ? Far from it actually but this thread is about the north . I would guess (and it is a guess) that %wise there are far fewer people commuting South-North as opposed to North-South . Emigration in the south is a totally different scenario which can be discussed elsewhere .
saabsaab wrote: » A British spy working in Dublin in WWII said that 140 IRA men in the Curragh had declared they were anti-fascist. He also stated that De Valera was Britain's best friend in Ireland and the best policy would be to end partition. Anyway what would our taking an active part meant? The war shortened by a few hours/days? At the cost of 10 or 20 thousand more Irish lives and our eastern cities bombed.
downcow wrote: » If you wish to use your method of deciding who is the greater success, and you would like to compare our nation with your nation, I would suggest that there is a very significant number more Republic of Ireland residents who moved to my nation, the UK, to find work.
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