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Zgemma H7s Guide

basemann

After taking the decision to get rid of cable I took the plunge and bought a Sat box. I was going to buy a Tiviar Alpha Plus due to its support on here but they were sold out at world of satellite and they suggested the Zgemma as it had similar specs.

Here is my guide to anyone new to the Sat world after getting this box . I hope it will help get through the initial frustration and hurdles you have to overcome. The H7S is relatively new so it's not discussed as much as the alpha plus but with the same software installed most guides can be used for both. I think the alpha would be equally challenging to set up. It takes time and patience and reading so be prepared for a bit of work but it's very satisfying in the end.
Some of this will be obvious to Sat heads but it's meant as a guide for beginners like I was who have some knowledge of the basics. This is from memory so excuse any vagueness of detail.

Here are the main things I learned..

1. To get Saoirview and Uk channels on the same epg listing you need to scan Saoirview 1st then do a second scan of the UK channels ensuring that the option to delete any previous scans is switched off. By doing that you mesh the two together so they can be gathered in the auto bouquets. (This took me ages to figure out!)

2. To install a skin easily you can put the downloaded skin found on the net on a usb and put it in the usb slot while live TV is playing (without any menu open). That will get a prompt to install the skin. If that does not work a plugin like Dreambox found in the plugin section will show all the folders in the sat box and the USB drive can be found and opened to try the install. If that does not work you need to connet a PC and use software like Filezilla to access files on the box from a PC. It's quite easily done if you follow the online guides.

3. A lot of people want the SkyNEW skin for the sky feel (without the sky channels of course!) and it does work but be warned it will prob make your epg crash every time you try and use it. To fix that you need to download a patch file to repair it. Dont install that skin unless you are prepared for that. You will need prob to connect a PC to do that and put it in the correct folder as per the instructions from where it easily found in a google search in places such as techkings etc. You might have to register an email to download these but there's no fee. It looks good when fixed but to be honest other skins are better that the sky menu which is comforting at first but you might feel it unnecessary and lacking functionality after a bit, but that's a personal preference.

Once you get it set up to your requirements its a great machine and very fast with a super picture so it's highly recommended. I hope this helps someone!:)

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greasepalm

When pressing the blue button for favourites try pressing the up button above OK button and see it then shows bouquets.

PJtharsaile

Thanks. I noticed the "scan" options later, and the option for changes for appear at the top and bottom. I hadn't taken it in earlier.

However, I'm wondering if things are working as they should. Nothing happens when I press the Favourites (ie blue) button having pulled up the list of Bouquets and I can see a reference in the logs to a missing favorites.xml file, confirmed by inspecting /etc/enigma2. (I'm assuming that it should open the Favourites Bouquet).

I think this is because I renamed it "Favourites" when loading my default set of channels in the order I wanted. It then seemed to get an internal name (userbouquet.[something].tv)-- it has, at any rate, disappeared.

I think I may need to redo this /sigh.

dulpit

Autobouquetsmaker runs daily, or at least it does for me. The idea being that you can set it up and forget about it, each day you can then have the latest channel changes sorted correctly with no effort required. You can change the settings though to change schedule, and can also set what happens with other bouquets you have created...

PJtharsaile

Anyone know if AutoBouquetsMaker runs daily or if there's any other reason if/why I should see changes in the order of the Bouquets periodically?

I use Kodi with TVHeadend and have a "Default" Bouquet with Irish terrestrial channels first then most of the FTA satellite channels, with rubbish excluded (home shopping etc.).

I copied the setup using DemonEditor (running on Linux Mint) to populate the Favourites Bouquet on the H7S.

All looked good at first. The following day I found had a double set of Bouquets, so manually deleted them all via the ZGemma web interface, and saved them again from Demon Editor. That appeared to resolve the duplication, but subsequently I've seen the order of the Bouquets change for no reason (I want Favourites first, and it's been displaced a few times by FreeSat Info).

It's only a minor annoyance but I'd like to resolve if there's a known fix.

swoofer

plugins, , green button, extensions, downlood autotimer etc

Hedgecutter

Hi guys, can anyone tell how to add an auto timer to zgemma with pure 2.

Gerry Wicklow

Davexirl wrote: »

Anyone know what setting I need to change to stop audio description from coming on for certain channels? I have to turn it off manually when I switch that channel on.

In audio settings set preferred language to ENG

swoofer

Can you say the channels as it may be a quirk. In the aopenatv image you can go menu, setup, audio, audio epg language, then I say yes to remember audio track per channel.

Davexirl

Anyone know what setting I need to change to stop audio description from coming on for certain channels? I have to turn it off manually when I switch that channel on.

dulpit

I was setting up a H7S for a buddy with a brand new hdd. It was configured with pure2, and would not pick up the drive. Switched to openvix and was picked up and was able to format drive. Switched back to pure2 and it was picked up fine then. Not sure if that applies here, but something to check.

greasepalm

Hdd or usb should show as ext4,as usually new hdd is formatted on box and should show ext4 underneath the drive.

tilting tim

Ya that’s right, I switched the power ribbon and went searching through menus and got to where I could format it (was new) so I have just started a record now, hopefully that will work

greasepalm

So you have an internal hdd inserted inside and plugged it was there 2 ribbons to connect to hdd.
Nothing in storage device when box has rebooted?

tilting tim

I have this box a few months but never got round to doing much with it after initial set up, main thing I need is to set up recording, I bought without hdd but put a sdd 1GB in it, problem is it’s not showing up on devices menu, any ideas?

I have tried both slots for the power and restarted it

FlexMcMurphy

I also had to return a ZGemma H7S. After owning it for about 3 months.

It started giving trouble happening after I installed the Kodi add-on but I don't know if that was related. I think it was a power supply issue but not sure. The picture would freeze up and go all snowy and the box would be unresponsive. Or I'd have it in standby but could not get it to come back on again. Plugging it out and waiting a while before plugging back in usually fixed it but not always straight away.

WoS were very good about replacing it but this gave me doubts about the reliability of these boxes.

Flex

greasepalm

That place is MAD busy:D:D:D:D:D:D

Don Juan II

Very interesting thread here:
https://www.techkings.org/threads/occasional-h7s-freezing-how-can-i-analyse.155593

Don Juan II

Abominable JoMan wrote: »

I've had this box a few months now, largely without issue and I'm generally pretty happy with it. However at the start I had an issue where the picture would freeze, the box would become unresponsive but the audio would continue to play in the background. The only way out of this was to perform a hard reboot using the on/off button at the back of the box.

I could go 2 weeks without it happening once then it might happen 3 times in 2 days.

I did my own bit of digging and found that memory usage was quite high. This was surprising as I have no extra add ons installed except your standard epg and sly skin. Also running openATV.

I then installed the cacheflush plugin and set it to run on an automatic schedule at the highest settings. Again this has seemed to largely solve the problem, but I'm still hit with random bouts of the box freezing and being unresponsive. While not a massive issue, it's actually just a bit disappointing if I'm honest.

Just wondering has anyone come across something similar or have a solution?

Thanks

I had this problem also with 2 different ZGemma H7S receivers
I tried OpenVix and OpenATV with stock skins and no plugins.

Ended up sending it back to WoS. WoS tested 2 new receivers before sending them to me and I've never had a problem since.

Seems to be a know issue

Zardoz

I have a Mutant HD51 receiver but I am considering switching to the Zgemma H7 as it has a built in terrestrial tuner.
The Zgemma is basically a clone of the Mutant but it has a built in terrestrial tuner.
I use a Play TV with the Mutant and whilst it generally works well, the tuners can disappear every so often especially after a software reboot.
Anyone have both receivers ?

WD123

Hi, does anyone use the H7S with a motorised dish 13/18v? Does it seem OK with no issues?

I'm retiring my Vuo+ Duo which had a great internal positioner but getting but old now. So have purchased a H7s with PureE2 preinstalled to replace it.

greasepalm

I use open Vix and press green button which brings up your timer list and use coloured buttons.

downwiththatsor

How do I stop a timed recording? I pressed the record button and tried selecting "Stop timer recording" multiple times but no joy?

Edit: Found a solution, was given the option to delete timer in the epg.

Tango One

Trying to change from openatv to openvix but can see to get it to flash.

followed the guide on openvix used an 8gb drive fat32 copy the zgemma folder to the root hold the bottom on the front and nothing happens. Any ideas?

One other question trying to use autobouquetsmaker but get cannot read data. Any ideas

edit used another version of openvix the emmc and it seems to have worked

After getting openvix I still seem to be having a problem with autobouquetsmaker tunning failed tuner config errors is roughly the message

Driving me nuts at this stage if I manual tune I don't have a problem,what region is everyone using on the freesat uk options.

Ahh it was the region that messed up that's few hours of my life wasted

Tango One

Has anyone setup with unicable LNB?

downwiththatsor

swoofer wrote: »

To use box as you require one fixed and other motorised do this as I have same set up .

Tuner A set at 28east = fixed. simple single.

Tuner B = go mode and scrool to positioner, ie use arrows on remote next to ok button. Positioner. and this is USALS. You will see longitude, arrow down and enter co=ordinates, change east to west, put in latitude, leave north, extra motor = no, force signal = no. press green to save and your done.

To get exact co-ordinates use google maps, put in eircode, then on red blob zoom in until it will go no further, right click, select whats here and thats your USALS settings. Ignore minus sign.

When you are recording on 28 east and select another channel dish will move automatically to 28 east.

I have decided to use my other Ariva 150 box I have connected to my motorised to do the moving for now as it has always been reliable. I don't switch sat positions much anyway. I have my Zgemma setup with one feed to Tuner A from a fixed 28east dish. The second feed to Tuner B is through a Diseqc switch with a feed from the fixed 28.2East on Lnb 1 Port B and the other satellites on Lnb 1 Port A.
The 28.2 East recordings use Tuner A and leave Tuner B free for viewing both other 28.2 East channels as well as the other satellite position its pointing at.
Very happy with the box so far.

Gerry Wicklow

downwiththatsor wrote: »

I have a good few mp4 files, wondering if I can I put them on the internal hdd and play them back on the box?
Thanks

yes

downwiththatsor

I have a good few mp4 files, wondering if I can I put them on the internal hdd and play them back on the box?
Thanks

swoofer

I am messing with pure2 version 6.5 and noticed a few glitches. It does not load crossepg, some items in order to install requires a hard re boot ie switch at back. I have a different box but same applies.

The image is quick and really automatic it can change every day so first thing you do is check for an update, menu,pmanager, software manager , check for update. For your hdd do same and go to device manager, hdd setup or initialisation. If hdd cant be found, try hard reboot and then if still not found you may have to check cables.

for epg you need epg importer.

Finally if I was you I would install openvix in another slot and see the difference, with a multiboot box, which yours is, the method of flashing is different and lot easier and quicker. This is what you do but go slow and be careful as you can overrwite your pure2. The box will have 4 partitions so you need to know where pure2 is located. But first download openvix to a usb and dont unzip it. The latest version of openvix comes with a need to reset password, its under network. Don't download the one with recovery on it you don't need it. Once on usb put it into front slot of box.

1. menu, pmanager, software manngr, flash on fly, downlaoded images, select image, now choose slot and make a note where pure2 is.

When box boots you can set up vix with crossepg, epgimporter and epg refresh, A lot comes pre-installed. I use vix a vix blue skin and its good.

Cyrus

dulpit wrote: »

I'm not sure if I'm having a derp moment or what. I have a H7S, running pure2. I have a brand new HDD that doesn't seem to be recognised, and I can't seem to figure out how to initialise it. There's probably an obvious step I'm missing.

I also ran a factory reset, and when I was setting things back up, I couldn't find crossepg. I was able to install it, but there was no option to enable it or alter settings/etc.

Finally, I was thinking I'd install a different image, but when I try to use a USB with the files downloaded on it and turn box off and back on while pressing the button on front the front panel shows boot, really briefly goes to flash but then back to boot. Box hangs then and have to turn off and back on again to get it running.

Any ideas/help is appreciated.

No need to do that to flash an image if you have it on the usb you can’t flash to one of the free slots within the os.

Same for mounting the new new drive , can’t remember off hand where it is but a quick google should sort you.

Is cross epg not in the epg setting area?

dulpit

I'm not sure if I'm having a derp moment or what. I have a H7S, running pure2. I have a brand new HDD that doesn't seem to be recognised, and I can't seem to figure out how to initialise it. There's probably an obvious step I'm missing.

I also ran a factory reset, and when I was setting things back up, I couldn't find crossepg. I was able to install it, but there was no option to enable it or alter settings/etc.

Finally, I was thinking I'd install a different image, but when I try to use a USB with the files downloaded on it and turn box off and back on while pressing the button on front the front panel shows boot, really briefly goes to flash but then back to boot. Box hangs then and have to turn off and back on again to get it running.

Any ideas/help is appreciated.