Cazale wrote: » They have started clearing the land at the traffic lights on the athgarvan road just before the cemetery. Five diggers in. Hundreds of houses planned.
richiek83 wrote: » They've been keen to get this started for some time now. Admin delays at KCC caused some of this. Good to see it started. Belin Woods is the name of the development. Glenveagh Devlopments is developing the site.
Cazale wrote: » Some photos I took of the aldi progress and a few to show the size of the area involved etc
richiek83 wrote: Thanks for the photos Cazale, this shows the extent of the site which is ready for development. The Aldi site is a relatively small portion of it. Treacy Developments owns the entire site up to the Courtyard SC.
Cazale wrote: » We live not too far from.it. I think the extension of the liffey linear park as seen in the plans attached will be a great addition to the town.
Cazale wrote: » It really is massive. Any word when the rest of it will start?
richiek83 wrote: » Agree, extension of park will be a great asset and ultimately it should be linked all the way to Athgarvan. Next thing that is required is new bridge over Liffey to link up with the new road developer will build to provide access to the estate
GavMan wrote: As I understand it, completing the road is not part of the planning permission granted to the developer. They will build their side in the estate but KCC/NRA will be required to build the section from Great Connell, over the field and over the liffey connecting to the estate road.
GavMan wrote: » As I understand it, completing the road is not part of the planning permission granted to the developer. They will build their side in the estate but KCC/NRA will be required to build the section from Great Connell, over the field and over the liffey connecting to the estate road. As I understand it, no funding has been identified yet for the Great Connell section....
richiek83 wrote: » You are correct GavMan. Developer will build their side of it to near the river. KCC did make an application for this new bridge and road on the Great Connell side for funding under the URDF application process. Decision on applications expected on this within the next few weeks. KCC had this on the list as second priority behind a Maynooth project. I can't remember where I seen it but I think the value of KCCs application may be approx €12 million. I remember from a previous document a few years ago when application was made for LIHAF funding that the new bridge and road to Great Connell could open up access for about 800-1000 homes.
GavMan wrote: » Easily 1000. More I would say because realistically anyone on the Athgarvan road From Kilbelin near the town to probably Whitethorn in Athgarvan itself would make use of it. I find it's a bit of a drag to drive down to exit 12 when you could get off at 10. Would really help traffic in the town when things get back to normal and folk are commuting again. Good to hear they have an application in. I do recall it being turned down 12-18 months ago. There seems to money for any old Tom Dick and Harry greenway project.
richiek83 wrote: » Furthermore, the existing permission for the two developments on the site are predominately retail, thousands of metres of it. You’d have to think in the current climate for retail, the viability may be questionable and maybe this is why development has not started or likely to start anytime soon. I would expect further proposed amendments and a good part of the development to now become residential. I also imagine that the other works they are doing on the site (ie water) could be also a reason why no development has yet to take place
silver2020 wrote: » Huge demand for retail warehousing and large own door units in a vibrant area. There are several retailers already lined up for the larger units. Retail is the #1 past time in Ireland and all indicators are that it will rebound strongly just as it did when the 1st lockdown ended Work has started on the overall plan. Aldi was the first part and the rest will follow. The change from educational to apartments is a minor change and is more an internal layout and use change that any structural change.
richiek83 wrote: » I hope you're right but planning permission for retail park extension (granted cira 2016) and Aldi development (granted circa 2014), these developments would have proceeded at a faster pace had there been the level of interest you have indicated. Traditional retail has been under pressure (pre Covid) and post Covid nobody knows what's going to happen with the increase in online shopping and retailers and policy makers all now reassessing bricks and mortar retail. As I said, I could be wrong but these are the conversations that are happening at policy maker level and at retail executive level. Just on another development in the town, I hear there is a meeting or presentation to council and elected officials by Bord Na Mona on their mooted master plan for the site. This is expected to occur before Christmas from what I've heard. Their site is somewhere in region of five acres in size.
richiek83 wrote: » I hope you're right but planning permission for retail park extension (granted cira 2016) and Aldi development (granted circa 2014), these developments would have proceeded at a faster pace had there been the level of interest you have indicated. Traditional retail has been under pressure (pre Covid) and post Covid nobody knows what's going to happen with the increase in online shopping and retailers and policy makers all now reassessing bricks and mortar retail. As I said, I could be wrong but these are the conversations that are happening at policy maker level and at retail executive level.
silver2020 wrote: » Some traditional retail can't keep up with demand. I don't think there's a single retail warehouse unit empty in any prime area of the country. Retail mix will simply change. Expect less fashion and more leisure / home type retail that will want larger spaces. Aldi have been comping at the bit to get their store built, but the plans for the site changed as the economy improved and a masterplan of all elements was created and work actually started last year on site clearance. The finished project look set to enhance retail and leisure and combine the retail park with "high street" units and lead through to Whitewater. With the Naas SC demoted to a neighbour centre with medical and educational use, Newbridge will cement its place as the shopping destination for the area.
tommyboy26 wrote: » is the bord na mona site being used? i never see anything going in or out of there
Tacs132132 wrote: » What plans are in place to build additional secondary school if new housing developments proceed? There is already a massive shortage of secondary school places in Newbridge/Kildare before any new additional houses are built.
Damien360 wrote: » There are no plans. Patrician secondary is in preliminary stages of planning for a significant upgrade which will include extra height. That’s about the lot of it unless you believe what every politician trots out every election. Promises without timelines. Newbridge is very poorly represented in the council.
GavMan wrote: » What remit does the county council have with respect to secondary school places? Surely this is a central government issue
NedNew2 wrote: » Based on the last census Newbridge is bigger than Naas and is in fact the largest settlement in the county (2016).
tommyboy26 wrote: » On a walk up the town today and noticed work going on it the old yvonnes shop. I have been saying for years its a prime spot and always wondered why no one ever used it sooner. anyone know what is going in there. It was nice to walk down the town and see work going on in there and the old arch bar and now multibuy shop up and running in the old xtravision. it gives me hope in these uncertain times
GavMan wrote: » Always thought the same about Yvonne's myself. Figured it must have been a rent/unit size issue. Spar would squeeze any kind of newsagent/corner shop gig. Interesting to see what it becomes. Hopefully not another vape or phone repair outfit
