bilston wrote: » I would have thought Burns starting was absolutely fair enough?
Niallof9 wrote: » That Daly will get his go is patently obvious? eh where
Iamabeliever wrote: » Fiji was a November international played over 2 years ago where Schmitt put a side out with a complete squad rotation. In the end due to absolute NO cohesion Ireland luckily ran out 2 point winners. It was a game to forget for both players and management. there is not point in changing the complete squad just so caps can be handed out. I want Farrell to pick and choose only 3 or four players who have a shout and play them with the senior squad. He also is a relatively new manager and I don’t think he has stamped his style of play (if he has any) on the senior squad as of yet.
shootermacg wrote: » Farrell is trying to bed in a plan with his team. What good does it do anyone if you're playing everyone that has ever held a rugby ball, you're stopping the starting team from gelling. Farrell is 100% correct, he will see what the young hopefuls have when they play in Europe. The crap on here, the people calling for guys who haven't started a full season are just bonkers. Jesus wept! On the bright side, that back row looks like the most balanced back row I've seen in quite a while.
ionadnapokot wrote: » What is this plan? im serious..this 1-3-2-2 that the world and their mother know how to play? It's not even very different at all with what Joe Schmidt had them doing. Because all im hearing is "an ability to play with their heads up" and "make a decision through trusting what he sees" Bollix talk. What I'm seeing is a team that is utterly rudderless and unable to implement or execute said plan. And you seriously think this is a team selected to gel? You would start with picking players in their best positions
Niallof9 wrote: » who said anything about changing the whole squad? this will be a 50 point win and we'll be no better in cohesion. Mainly cause Sexton is the 10 till he retires. So bang there goes one part of the grand plan. Earls isn't that big a deal if you want to get him back in. I agree with maybe 4/5 changes. I mean thats the point with Keenan. He was tried, he did ok. Now why and how does he suddenly become an automatic starter. SUddenly he'll be on 20 caps and those calling for a Daly or whoever wwill be told...well Hugo has 20 caps now you can't be dropping him..its the constant narrative of Irish Rugby. Sure might as well get the ink dry on those central deals for Keenan and COnnors. Those two European games have really stood them in stead. There's absolutely no reason Daly or whoever can't be tried like Keenan was with Italy. Irish rugby at times is utterly bizarre and a sort of never ending self fulfilling prophecy. And there's enough cheerleaders on here and in print which means all criticism is banished. People like Andy Dunne are quacks and the word 2018 is thrown about at will.
sydthebeat wrote: » Habana was still scoring against the all blacks in Sept 2016. And as for missing the point...... Whoosh!!
Iamabeliever wrote: » Why not give Keenan a run in a team. Would you prefer to try every winger in Ireland just to try them out. No one is an immediate success on there first couple of caps. Even Stockdale needed a summer in USA. Keenan could become the once a year cap like mccloskey.
Yeah_Right wrote: » I think you are both wrong. Everyone knows that international wingers are over the hill once they reach 27.
Niallof9 wrote: » But he's had that run. I like Keenan he has something about him. I hope he bangs in a hatrick, but he's just an example of the weird way Irish rugby goes about its business. He played his first European game in Sept. But now yeah i reckon you'll see him become a mainstay for no real reason other than he had a good game against Italy, solid against Wales. And yeah i wouldn't be shocked if he suddenly gets a central deal while Conway or whoever is left pissing in the wind.
Iamabeliever wrote: » I don’t rate Keenan as a player but if a manager has made a decision to hand a first cap out and have that player play the biggest game of the year than he should certainly be given time in that jersey. Keenan is no where near Conway. That’s just my opionion.
molloyjh wrote: » Some disappointing elements to that selection, but predictably the general reaction here is OTT. At loose head we are paying the price for a shortsighted squad selection a few weeks back. Having only 2 LHs in the squad was always a risk. That has now come back to bite us in both prop positions. We have to move 1 TH over to LH, leaving us with only 2 THs available. And obviously Ryan is simply not rated, meaning we're flogging Porter. What that means for next weeks selection I dont know. EOS will only have been in camp a day or two so not too surprised he isn't involved. For me the error here was not getting him in sooner. Not too bothered by our hooker or lock selections for the most part, although I'd have started Roux here instead of Ryan just to manage the latters game time some. Although after last week maybe Ryan needs to get back on the horse and develop his partnership with Henderson. Not too much in this though. In the back row we've capped a few guys this year so ultimately this game shouldn't be about new guys, but instead about managing game time. No complaints there as a result. At half-backs Burns needed to start and Murray alongside him probably gives him the best chance to make his case so all good there. In the centre, this was really the only selection we could make. I do think we need to start looking at a more like for like replacement for Ringrose at 13, which is tough on Farrell, but we need a bit more creativity in the centre and Farrell doesn't bring that. I dont know if Hume is worth a look, but we need to make some sort of change there going forward. In the back 3, Stockdale has a load of potential at FB so giving him more time there was a must. With Lowe and Conway injured we were always going to have one of Keenan or Daly out there. Meaning we needed a steady hand too. Ideally that would have been Conway, but Earls will do I've no real issue with that selection at all tbh. The big issue for me here is the initial squad selection with only 1 LH. It has caused is real issues now in the front row for this week and next plus for Leinster in Europe. Other than that some minor quibbles but overall nothing of any real note. We have to remember we're missing quite a few players so that's going to make selections over the course of this tournament that bit more tricky.
Niallof9 wrote: » But he's had that run. I like Keenan he has something about him. I hope he bangs in a hatrick, but he's just an example of the weird way Irish rugby goes about its business. He played his first European game in Sept. But now yeah i reckon you'll see him become a mainstay for no real reason other than he had a good game against Italy, solid against Wales. And yeah i wouldn't be shocked if he suddenly gets a central deal while Conway or whoever is left pissing in the wind. I'm sorry i just don't get it at times. I'm hardly the only one if you go by the reaction elsewhere. On here, yeah its crazy talk.
Deleted User wrote: » This "woe is me" attitude is tiring. Plenty of people are criticising this selection.
CMcsporty wrote: » 1 debut for Ireland off the bench 11 debuts in one match for Francehttps://twitter.com/murray_kinsella/status/1331913572151152640?s=21
Niallof9 wrote: » No i don't think there is. On balance it looks like many are accepting and understanding of it. which is never a surprise really.
clsmooth wrote: » There’s two ways of disagreeing with something. The adult way of putting yourself into Farrell’s head and asking why he’s playing certain players, and the childish way of throwing a strop and going down the #worstselectionever pathway when you have absolutely no skin in the game. I’m sure we’d all pick different teams but as with all things, there’s a balance. No point throwing random players together when you’re trying to build an identity. The old baby with the bath water analogy rings through.
Dog Botherer wrote: » how many pro players are there in France as opposed to Ireland? seems relevant. as does the fact that France have won the last two Junior World Cups and have approximately 50 insanely talented freaks that they're going to be capping over the next few years.
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