Offseason 2020 Thread

Coneygree wrote: »

Hon the Hawks! Defence is still behind the couch frightening for the most part but it has been a great off season.

Looks really good! Trae Young, Bogdanovic, Reddish, Collins and Capela with Rondo ready to step in.

Be plenty of scoring at both sides!

Carcharodon

Just listened to the Podcast “Whistleblower” by journalist Livingston. It’s a series of short episodes detailing the accounts of referee Tm Donaghy betting scandal, there is a ton of very interesting stuff in there, some of it blew me away but can’t say Iam surprised at all even if a tiny portion of the accusations are true regarding the shenanigans within the NBA
Apologies if it was brought up already, I sure the likes of Butters and co have probably listened to it
I knew the story of Donaghy but so much more to the story as it’s told m the podcast series.

Coneygree

Hon the Hawks! Defence is still behind the couch frightening for the most part but it has been a great off season.

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Rockets really moving like they're keeping Harden and Westbrook now, which makes their willingness to trade Covington for picks extremely bizarre.

They'll move one or both eventually, it's just a matter of time. They're not going to win anything so it's I'd imagine a d*ck measuring contest between Frittata (yes, I know that's not how you spell it) and the two players, with a bit of Morey thrown in.

If he (Fritata) can manage his pride the best return is from Philly (Simmons), but will he do it, that's the question?

San Antonio refused to deal with the Lakers a few years ago when Leonard wanted out and it cost them enormously. If Fritata is the businessman he always talks about himself being he should take the best deal possible. San Antonio had the excuse of LA were in the same conference, that doesn't apply here.

Rockets really moving like they're keeping Harden and Westbrook now, which makes their willingness to trade Covington for picks extremely bizarre.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The Lakers have not done what I expected them to do. I thought they would try and retain the squad in large part but moving out big personalities like Rondo, Howard and McGee who all contributed throughout the year is very interesting. It’s a significant amount of change.

I’ve gone back and forth on this tbh, but I think they’ve probably made themselves better during the regular season and weaker in the playoffs. Schroder and Harrell give them a viable offense when LeBron and Davis are off the floor, but it will be hard to accommodate Harrell in playoff rotations. Gasol was a great player and Morris did well last year but I’d probably still rather Howard and McGee who offered a huge defensive advantage during the regular season last year.

Interesting to see how it all shakes out. Maybe the strategy here is to really manage minutes for LeBron and Davis through the regular season and that fit, etc won’t matter in the playoffs? We’ll see.

Interesting take. I actually think they got a lot stronger. I don't think Gasol will be as bad as he was in the bubble and defensively he's on a different level to what JaVale and Dwight offered. I agree on Montrezl, not so sure on Schroder, I do think he's bee under-rated and under-used. One thing they have done is take goofyness and d*ckheads out of the team, I'd imagine chemistry will be a lot better simply by not having some of the JR, Javale, Dwight, Waiters, and yes, Rondo out of there would be addition by subtraction. I think they've gotten an awful lot more serious about the task at hand. I can't imagine Marc Gasol putting up with crap tbh.

I think they're string favorites to repeat, and I say that as a Boston fan so it kills me. I also don't think they're done trading, I'd expect a move post All Star Break. I do think had the Bucks gotten Bogdonovic they've have been stronger, but that's dead in the water now. They need to do something post All Star Break too IMO.

LuckyLloyd

The Lakers have not done what I expected them to do. I thought they would try and retain the squad in large part but moving out big personalities like Rondo, Howard and McGee who all contributed throughout the year is very interesting. It’s a significant amount of change.

I’ve gone back and forth on this tbh, but I think they’ve probably made themselves better during the regular season and weaker in the playoffs. Schroder and Harrell give them a viable offense when LeBron and Davis are off the floor, but it will be hard to accommodate Harrell in playoff rotations. Gasol was a great player and Morris did well last year but I’d probably still rather Howard and McGee who offered a huge defensive advantage during the regular season last year.

Interesting to see how it all shakes out. Maybe the strategy here is to really manage minutes for LeBron and Davis through the regular season and that fit, etc won’t matter in the playoffs? We’ll see.

Some signings today...Bam gets the max contract with the Heat, Demarcus Cousins signs with Houston Rockets, Ingram gets a big contract with the Pelicans and Delledova back with the Cavs

jk23 wrote: »

Any team up to challenge them this year? West conference actually looks easier for them to win than the finals Vs the eastern conference opponent

You have Brooklyn, Miami, Bucks and 76rs and maybe the Celtics in the east

I still think The Clippers could very well turn it around after a total collapse in the play-offs, and still have some real quality there (Paul George, Kawhi and now of course Ibaka) and I don't think anyone would like to face them. Denver should improve as well, but I think you are right, the main threat may come from the east.

The James Harden situation to Brooklyn may swing everything yet.

Corvo wrote: »

They have a crazy amount of depth now. Le Bron will be resting up for the play offs

Any team up to challenge them this year? West conference actually looks easier for them to win than the finals Vs the eastern conference opponent

You have Brooklyn, Miami, Bucks and 76rs and maybe the Celtics in the east

jk23 wrote: »

Marc Gasol gone to the Lakers, everyone will be playing catch up again with the Lakers again...looking likely they will repeat

They have a crazy amount of depth now. Le Bron will be resting up for the play offs

Marc Gasol gone to the Lakers, everyone will be playing catch up again with the Lakers again...looking likely they will repeat

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

This is so funny to me, lad hasn't played in over 2 years, he got injured at home while already injured, all he has to do is hang around at home in Washington collecting his millions and the fans will consider him a franchise legend, but for some reason now he wants out

He'd be a huge risk for anyone, he might come back half the player.

For Forks Sake

Jayson Tatum just got paid.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1330628024149094402

jk23 wrote: »

Clippers still need a proper point guard to run their offence. Lakers and Atlanta doing the best in the off season so far

Lakers apart from Rondo look stronger than this year. Rumors they are looking at Bogdonovic too - if they land him it’ll be :eek:

Clippers still need a proper point guard to run their offence. Lakers and Atlanta doing the best in the off season so far

Ibaka to the clippers, rondo to Atlanta, and crowder to the suns sum up last night.

For Forks Sake wrote: »

At the rate things are going the only teams selecting first-round players in the draft for the next five years will be OKC and Boston

The way things are going Boston will offer all of their picks for the number 1 pick, who won’t sign with them because he’s represented by Klutch, then settle for the 29th pick and some new basketballs whilst losing Tatum to the Lakers for nothing.

For Forks Sake

At the rate things are going the only teams selecting first-round players in the draft for the next five years will be OKC and Boston

ButtersSuki wrote: »

You could argue it’s worse because the revenue projections then were only going up. It’s likely there won’t be fans this season, revenues will plummet. Free agents next year or the year after could get screwed after this.

Yeah we'll see how it goes, obviously a lot of 2016 is hindsight but even back then there was uproar at contracts like the one given to Mozgov, don't think we have anything quite that bad right now, though the Pistons are really trying

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

It's nowhere near 2016 levels but there's a lot of money going around for pretty average players this Free Agency.

You could argue it’s worse because the revenue projections then were only going up. It’s likely there won’t be fans this season, revenues will plummet. Free agents next year or the year after could get screwed after this.

ButtersSuki wrote: »

John Wall has asked for a trade.
Only real option is a Westbrook trade..... which

This is so funny to me, lad hasn't played in over 2 years, he got injured at home while already injured, all he has to do is hang around at home in Washington collecting his millions and the fans will consider him a franchise legend, but for some reason now he wants out

It's nowhere near 2016 levels but there's a lot of money going around for pretty average players this Free Agency.

John Wall has asked for a trade.
Only real option is a Westbrook trade..... which

Steven Adams to the Pelicans for draft picks.
Fred Van Vleet re-signs with Toronto.

I’m surprised Hayward went there as all the signs were he was going to Indiana.

Hayward isn’t as bad as is being made out, but he’s nowhere near the player he once was. It’s an overpay for sure but there’s not much in terms of wings in this free agency and his stats this year when healthy were actually very good. He’ll also get plenty of the ball in Charlotte, and not be the 4th option like he has become in Boston. For him it’s a smart move.

As a Boston fan I’m gutted. This is 3 former/current All Stars, 3 starters and prestige free agent gone in 2 seasons for nothing basically between Irving, Hayward and Horford (at the time).

Coneygree

Wouldn't pay Kemba but will give Hayward 30m for four years. Good God. Himself and Lavar might get on like a house on fire actually.