MsStote wrote: » Not a chance because they are all explainable. The best one is how the pentagon released a UFO vid of a duck...
Hamsterchops wrote: » What's the best & clearest daylight picture we have of an Unidentified Flying Object?
steddyeddy wrote: » You're asking me to put more creedance in the word of an amateur video analyst on YouTube than 6 trained pilots? Speaking as a scientist I find that the explanations the sceptics community come up with for unexplained phenomenon is at times ridiculous.
The 2004 video shows an incident that happened 100 miles out over the Pacific, according to the New York Times. Two navy fighter pilots found an oblong object hovering above the water. It then flew quickly away. “It accelerated like nothing I’ve ever seen,” one of pilots, Cmdr David Fravor, told the NYT.
Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: » Anyone else notice that UFO footage peaked in the 90s and 00s when the public had access to ****ty quality camcorders. As soon as everyone had a HD smartphone camera in their pockets all the little green men got shy?
Originally Posted by Pintman Paddy Losty View Post Anyone else notice that UFO footage peaked in the 90s and 00s when the public had access to ****ty quality camcorders. As soon as everyone had a HD smartphone camera in their pockets all the little green men got shy?
AdrianBalboa wrote: » That's also why nobody aged under forty posts in these threads. I remember when the X Files and Star Trek was booming and all of the proto-neckbeards of the era were pining for Seven of Nine to come down from the Enterprise and probe them with her ray gun. Obviously young people aren't so quick to believe in this rubbish now that the the pop-cultural moment for sci fi garbage has passed.
Hamsterchops wrote: » Last night I watched Mick West on YouTube debunking all the Pentagon UFO videos One by one he meticulously punched holes in any theory that they might be extraterrestrial, indeed he went as far as to claim that those blurry images were nothing more than far away aeroplanes, balloons or ducks. So GIMBAL is an aeroplane, GOGAST is a balloon and FLIR is nothing more than a duck. His analysis is so convincing and so technical that it seems impossible for me to disagree with his theory that the UFO sightings are spurious and totally explainable! Those three videos gave us so much hope that we had actually captured alien technology on camera, and now this theory has been spectacularly shot down in flames, Mr West also went on the debunk a Brazilian UFO video from the 90s explaining in detail how it was just an ordinary jet aeroplane. Very demoralising if one was hoping for real UFO footage
Fuzzyduzzy wrote: » https://youtu.be/CBt4CNHyAck Commander Fravor is a trained fighter pilot who witnessed this event along with other pilots and military staff below. It was recorded on radar too. Mick West is a sceptical investigator and retired video game programmer. Fravor responds to Mick's debunking in the video above.
silliussoddius wrote: » I started following his stuff recently, goes to show how some people are willing to bypass all possibilities and go straight to aliens. The only “people” who will prove the ET hypothesis to us are the ETs themselves.
"But I told him the Princeton (guided missile cruiser)... which has got really good sophisticated radar, is reporting that there's an object that they wanted us to see if we could find and, if we're able, track." He added: "The Princeton had a specific object that they wanted us to hunt, for lack of a better word. And all of a sudden, I got this blip on my radar." The pilot captured what Mr Fravor had described as a 40-foot long white, oblong shape on his FLIR (forward-looking infrared camera). Mr Underwood added the object was hovering somewhere between 15,000 and 24,000 feet in the air, while exhibiting no notable exhaust fumes from conventional propulsion sources. The pilot said he watched his FLIR while he was within 20 miles of the object, adding he would not have been able to visually track the UFO unless he was within five miles of it like Mr Fravor was. He continued: "The thing that stood out to me the most was how erratic it was behaving. "And what I mean by 'erratic' is that its changes in altitude, air speed, and aspect were just unlike things that I've ever encountered before flying against other air targets. "It was just behaving in ways that aren't physically normal. That's what caught my eye. "Because, aircraft, whether they're manned or unmanned, still have to obey the laws of physics. They have to have some source of lift, some source of propulsion. "Because, aircraft, whether they're manned or unmanned, still have to obey the laws of physics. They have to have some source of lift, some source of propulsion. "The Tic Tac was not doing that. It was going from like 50,000ft to, you know, 100ft in like seconds, which is not possible."
B.A._Baracus wrote: » I had to Google it but it is believed there are over 700 quintillion planets in the universe (quintillion is a billion billion accordingly) so there surely has to be life out there. Somewhere. That said could UFO's have visited the planet? The amount of tech they would need to travel vast distances would be crazy. The nearest galaxy to us is the Andromeda galaxy. Which is 21,000 light years away. If using our current technology and the shuttle Discovery, which can travel 5 miles an second, it would take 37,200 years to travel only 1 light year. Let alone 21,000 thousand. So that knowledge gives credence to both sides of the arguments. On one hand the idea that a UFO could have visited earth just once makes sense. Such vast distances to travel. That's why we don't see them. On the other hand, if some alien species had the ability to travel these distances we would surely see evidence in the night sky. We'd be picking up something out there. Radio waves, signals etc. But then it takes so long for us to receive such signals. Another argument in its own.
silliussoddius wrote: » We have no known ET craft to compare anything against. Therefore no one can say they know something is an ET craft, the main players today in releasing this kind of info cannot be trusted (To the Stars Academy), DeLonge jumps in anything. All West is saying is that based on radar evidence we can’t say they’re ET crafts which is the logical position. The old saying still holds true; extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. With the UFO community there is always something around the corner.
saabsaab wrote: » Yes but anything that advanced may have other technology way different to ours. Perhaps they are here already on bases on moons etc or elsewhere in the solar system.
B.A._Baracus wrote: » That's the thing. To master interstellar travel their technology would be so much more advanced than ours. But then the question of how come we haven't seen evidence of such technology when we view the night skies comes to question.
steddyeddy wrote: » Have you looked at the video with Mick West's "debunking".He suggests that 6 pilots mistook a bird for a UFO or a balloon. He states that the 6 pilots are mistaken about their instrumentation. Mick West works with video games.
COVID wrote: » So six pilots couldn't be wrong.
It's not about numbers; it's about belief, or the willingness to believe.
How many Irish people said they saw moving statues in the summer of '85?
