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I have been a dancer in Dublin for a decade started in my early 20s a lot of the girls I work with are sound and believe me it’s definitely nothing you see on tv. However Ireland seems to have this negative attitude towards women in this industry or deems us all sex addicts or easy when the woman who gets bread in her local supermarket could be doing all kinds of dirty things that’s way worse than dancing and it seems to be okay because she’s doing it for free I don’t get the mindset of some of these people we have stage names in work to protect our identity.

Part of this job comes with a lot of stigma there’s been a few girls who had people find out their day jobs and contact their boss to try and get them fired it’s normally women who rat them out and try to ruin their lives over it. There’s nothing I’d love more than to be open about my job and how it’s helped me get through some dark times in my life but I just couldn’t handle all the derogatory labels and insults and lows people will go to try and ruin your life over it. Since covid hit I don’t know how the strip club industry in Dublin is going to survive.

I want to know what your opinions are on strippers and the likes of using onlyfans to make money nothing you say is going to bother me it’s more curios why people have a begrudging attitude towards these things when they do worse things for free with their husbands boyfriend or a random Jack the lad from coppers In Dublin on a night out.

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kippy

Just on the 'revenge porn' thing which works both ways, let it be said.
There are two things that are slightly connected:
I don't think 'people' get the fact that prosecuting someone in this area would be extremely difficult for a number of very obvious reasons and indeed relatively easy for someone to avoid prosecution in this area. It'll require a shed load more specialists and will provide lucrative gigs for solicitors.
People, in general, need to made aware that posting images in a digital format, even privately is not something you should be doing unless you'd be happy for your granny or parents to see those images. There are so many avenues open to have those images made public or even exposed to more than the intended recipient, it's scary.
This is not 'victim blaming' before anyone hits me up on it. It's asking for people to have a bit more cop on.
I said it earlier but as good as things generally are nowadays there are many pitfalls of increased technology usage.

[Deleted User]

Mr.S wrote: »

Fairly weird you made an account just to post in this thread, tbh.

How do you know that?

banie01

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How do you know that?

10 posts, joined today and 1st post was on here as were the majority of the rest of their posts.

[Deleted User]

banie01 wrote: »

10 posts, joined today and 1st post was on here as were the majority of the rest of their posts.

Still though. When I re-regged I think I went straight back to a particular thread. I am very naive though in the ways of other re-reges

banie01

kippy wrote: »

People, in general, need to made aware that posting images in a digital format, even privately is not something you should be doing unless you'd be happy for your granny or parents to see those images.

Very true.
It needs to be appreciated just how easily private moments can be shared.

Similar situation with Gmail and iCloud storage.
If someone has your email and you don't have a string password and 2FA enabled, there is a possibility that you will at least be targeted for a hack and without a complex password, 2fa and log in alerts you might not even know.

There is a long history of Onlyfans stuff been shared on 4chan and other sites, Reddit used to be a big hub for it too but the onlyfans stuff they now take down as DMCA violation.

Rte are reporting that the Gardaí are investigating and hopefully if the purported cache of images exists?
It will be investigatedd appropriately and action taken.

There is a huge degree of convenience in the timing, and tbh the amount of talk around the existence of pictures, on the net, out there in the ether yet not actually being presented in any form other than as hearsay and 2nd hand just wakes the cynic in me.

kippy

banie01 wrote: »

Very true.
It needs to be appreciated just how easily private moments can be shared.

Similar situation with Gmail and iCloud storage.
If someone has your email and you don't have a string password and 2FA enabled, there is a possibility that you will at least be targeted for a hack and without a complex password, 2fa and log in alerts you might not even know.

There is a long history of Onlyfans stuff been shared on 4chan and other sites, Reddit used to be a big hub for it too but the onlyfans stuff they now take down as DMCA violation.

Rte are reporting that the Gardaí are investigating and hopefully if the purported cache of images exists?
It will be investigatedd appropriately and action taken.

There is a huge degree of convenience in the timing, and tbh the amount of talk around the existence of pictures, on the net, out there in the ether yet not actually being presented in any form other than as hearsay and 2nd hand just wakes the cynic in me.

I suppose the timing is convenient however I'd hope it's a warning/reminder to those that need it most that sharing nude pictures of yourself in any digital format is risky......
(Of course I know there are allegedly lots of pictures of people who did not know they were being photographed, that is a totally different issue but unfortunately the damage done is far greater now due to technology) - this area is also very difficult to prosecute in, one would think.

MrMusician18

banie01 wrote: »

Very true.
It needs to be appreciated just how easily private moments can be shared.

Similar situation with Gmail and iCloud storage.
If someone has your email and you don't have a string password and 2FA enabled, there is a possibility that you will at least be targeted for a hack and without a complex password, 2fa and log in alerts you might not even know.

There is a long history of Onlyfans stuff been shared on 4chan and other sites, Reddit used to be a big hub for it too but the onlyfans stuff they now take down as DMCA violation.

Rte are reporting that the Gardaí are investigating and hopefully if the purported cache of images exists?
It will be investigatedd appropriately and action taken.

There is a huge degree of convenience in the timing, and tbh the amount of talk around the existence of pictures, on the net, out there in the ether yet not actually being presented in any form other than as hearsay and 2nd hand just wakes the cynic in me.

It's odd for this cache to be circulating, but has anyone seen it. All I'm seeing are third hand reports.

Feels like Momo all over again.

bigpink

If photos are public in the internet what are be done?

bigpink

So if a 17 year old posts a picture in social media is it against the law to share it?I see my cousin's Instagram its very sexual at times

Junkyard Tom

So:

1. Unauthorised sharing/distribution of OnlyFans/commercial stuff - copyright issue?
2. Distributed intimate photos of former partner (AKA revenge porn) - grey area?
3. Voyeur stuff - already a crime?
4. Child images - already a crime?

Would that be correct?

Are the people who sell nude images trying to get #1 made a sexual abuse crime?

silliussoddius

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

So:

1. OnlyFans/commercial stuff - copyright issue?
2. Distributed intimate photos of former partner (AKA revenge porn) - grey area?
3. Voyeur stuff - already a crime?
4. Child images - already a crime?

Would that be correct?

Are the people who sell nude images trying to get #1 made a sexual abuse crime?

Isn't number 1 just photo piracy?

AMKC

I do not have a problem with either of them. They have to get money somehow.

Junkyard Tom

silliussoddius wrote: »

Isn't number 1 just photo piracy?

Yeah, I would have thought so, I think in law it would be a copyright issue as the pics are owned by an individual or business.

I do think #2 should be criminal because it's a fierce scummy thing to do and should come with consequences.

#3 and #4 are already criminal I would have thought.

bigpink

But are some photos just sexy posing from Facebook Instagram etc

fatknacker

bigpink wrote: »

So if a 17 year old posts a picture in social media is it against the law to share it?I see my cousin's Instagram its very sexual at times

Is it something you’re planning to do?

Shoelaces

bigpink wrote: »

So if a 17 year old posts a picture in social media is it against the law to share it?I see my cousin's Instagram its very sexual at times

You might enjoy a little hamlet called Shelbyville

kippy

The copyright issue, while an issue, is also extremely difficult to practically prosecute on.
These are individual copyrights not big multinationals with legal teams at their disposal, and one would wonder the rationale of law enforcement investigating every copyright violation of this nature.....
I am not even sure if this is a criminal or civil offence.

Larsso30

Starting to question the legitimacy of the "leak" at this point myself ðŸ˜‚

Beechwoodspark

Long article in Irish times today on this

The guards are saying the only fans leak is unlikely to be prosecuted

At most it’s a civil matter under copyright law

anewme

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Long article in Irish times today on this

The guards are saying the only fans leak is unlikely to be prosecuted

At most it’s a civil matter under copyright law

That’s why the campaign is going on to change the law on sexual images.

kippy

anewme wrote: »

That’s why the campaign is going on to change the law on sexual images.

So the campaign is to change copyright law and make it a criminal offence?
I think you may have your wires crossed.

Ash.J.Williams

Deleted User wrote: »

Isn't the purpose of Only Fans to use your body and looks for likes?

cash

anewme

kippy wrote: »

So the campaign is to change copyright law and make it a criminal offence?
I think you may have your wires crossed.

No I haven’t got my wires crossed- have you?

The campaign is to have image based sexual banned, irrespective of where the content comes from.

I heard about it from my young niece, so perhaps you might be out of the loop, but it’s generating a lot of interest from that demographic of people. They are also having a class on it in school- to make sure they are aware of how the law is currently- to protect themselves.

“A digital protest is being organised in Ireland to demand that image-based sexual abuse be banned after tens of thousands of nudes were stolen from women, LGBT+ people and OnlyFans stars only to then be leaked online.”

Paul Weller

anewme wrote: »

No I haven’t got my wires crossed- have you?

The campaign is to have image based sexual banned, irrespective of where the content comes from.

“A digital protest is being organised in Ireland to demand that image-based sexual abuse be banned after tens of thousands of nudes were stolen from women, LGBT+ people and OnlyFans stars only to then be leaked online.”

I actually can't understand what you're trying to say here
Only fans is sexual abuse?...or its sexual abuse when not paid for?

anewme

Paul Weller wrote: »

I actually can't understand what you're trying to say here
Only fans is sexual abuse?...or its sexual abuse when not paid for?

Yeah I asked how it works.

It is about consent.

Same as a sex worker can have sex for money, but can still be raped.

[Deleted User]

anewme wrote: »

Yeah I asked how it works.

It is about consent.

Same as a sex worker can have sex for money, but can still be raped.

Rape is a crime on its own feet though because of its violent physical nature.

Onlyfans leake is different. the issue is the model didnt consent to her images being shared however they were legitimately obtained in the first place, someone did pay to view them.

Its the same as sharing books, DVD's, etc as technically you do not have the creator / authors permission to do so. Should it only be a crime if you lend your mate a copy of Playboy but not womans own is the question then.

banie01

anewme wrote: »

“A digital protest is being organised in Ireland to demand that image-based sexual abuse be banned after tens of thousands of nudes were stolen from women, LGBT+ people and OnlyFans stars only to then be leaked online.”

Again, and this is quite important in the context of this story.
As of yet, now over 3 days into this scandal.
There is zero credible evidence of this leak existing.
None.

Yes there is a need for legislation in the area, but the current furore is based on something that is being presented as a mass hack of thousands...
But there is zero actual evidence the incident has happened.

Junkyard Tom

The women who sell their adult stuff to subscribers would have known the risks of it being shared without their consent. It's not the same as women who shared intimate images with a former partner having their stuff made public, equating the two is doing the latter no favours.

anewme

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Rape is a crime on its own feet though because of its violent physical nature.

Onlyfans leake is different. the issue is the model didnt consent to her images being shared however they were legitimately obtained in the first place, someone did pay to view them.

Its the same as sharing books, DVD's, etc as technically you do not have the creator / authors permission to do so. Should it only be a crime if you lend your mate a copy of Playboy but not womans own is the question there

I’m not saying it’s my opinion. I’m saying that’s people are where people are (younger group) are protestingI was answering the person who thought I got my wires crossed.

It’s not just women, either, it’s all genders.

kippy

anewme wrote: »

No I haven’t got my wires crossed- have you?

The campaign is to have image based sexual banned, irrespective of where the content comes from.

I heard about it from my young niece, so perhaps you might be out of the loop, but it’s generating a lot of interest from that demographic of people. They are also having a class on it in school- to make sure they are aware of how the law is currently- to protect themselves.

“A digital protest is being organised in Ireland to demand that image-based sexual abuse be banned after tens of thousands of nudes were stolen from women, LGBT+ people and OnlyFans stars only to then be leaked online.”

You have completely lost me. Sorry