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I have been a dancer in Dublin for a decade started in my early 20s a lot of the girls I work with are sound and believe me it’s definitely nothing you see on tv. However Ireland seems to have this negative attitude towards women in this industry or deems us all sex addicts or easy when the woman who gets bread in her local supermarket could be doing all kinds of dirty things that’s way worse than dancing and it seems to be okay because she’s doing it for free I don’t get the mindset of some of these people we have stage names in work to protect our identity.

Part of this job comes with a lot of stigma there’s been a few girls who had people find out their day jobs and contact their boss to try and get them fired it’s normally women who rat them out and try to ruin their lives over it. There’s nothing I’d love more than to be open about my job and how it’s helped me get through some dark times in my life but I just couldn’t handle all the derogatory labels and insults and lows people will go to try and ruin your life over it. Since covid hit I don’t know how the strip club industry in Dublin is going to survive.

I want to know what your opinions are on strippers and the likes of using onlyfans to make money nothing you say is going to bother me it’s more curios why people have a begrudging attitude towards these things when they do worse things for free with their husbands boyfriend or a random Jack the lad from coppers In Dublin on a night out.

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bigpink

But are some photos just sexy posing from Facebook Instagram etc

Junkyard Tom

silliussoddius wrote: »

Isn't number 1 just photo piracy?

Yeah, I would have thought so, I think in law it would be a copyright issue as the pics are owned by an individual or business.

I do think #2 should be criminal because it's a fierce scummy thing to do and should come with consequences.

#3 and #4 are already criminal I would have thought.

AMKC

I do not have a problem with either of them. They have to get money somehow.

silliussoddius

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

So:

1. OnlyFans/commercial stuff - copyright issue?
2. Distributed intimate photos of former partner (AKA revenge porn) - grey area?
3. Voyeur stuff - already a crime?
4. Child images - already a crime?

Would that be correct?

Are the people who sell nude images trying to get #1 made a sexual abuse crime?

Isn't number 1 just photo piracy?

Junkyard Tom

So:

1. Unauthorised sharing/distribution of OnlyFans/commercial stuff - copyright issue?
2. Distributed intimate photos of former partner (AKA revenge porn) - grey area?
3. Voyeur stuff - already a crime?
4. Child images - already a crime?

Would that be correct?

Are the people who sell nude images trying to get #1 made a sexual abuse crime?

bigpink

So if a 17 year old posts a picture in social media is it against the law to share it?I see my cousin's Instagram its very sexual at times

bigpink

If photos are public in the internet what are be done?

MrMusician18

banie01 wrote: »

Very true.
It needs to be appreciated just how easily private moments can be shared.

Similar situation with Gmail and iCloud storage.
If someone has your email and you don't have a string password and 2FA enabled, there is a possibility that you will at least be targeted for a hack and without a complex password, 2fa and log in alerts you might not even know.

There is a long history of Onlyfans stuff been shared on 4chan and other sites, Reddit used to be a big hub for it too but the onlyfans stuff they now take down as DMCA violation.

Rte are reporting that the Gardaí are investigating and hopefully if the purported cache of images exists?
It will be investigatedd appropriately and action taken.

There is a huge degree of convenience in the timing, and tbh the amount of talk around the existence of pictures, on the net, out there in the ether yet not actually being presented in any form other than as hearsay and 2nd hand just wakes the cynic in me.

It's odd for this cache to be circulating, but has anyone seen it. All I'm seeing are third hand reports.

Feels like Momo all over again.

kippy

banie01 wrote: »

Very true.
It needs to be appreciated just how easily private moments can be shared.

Similar situation with Gmail and iCloud storage.
If someone has your email and you don't have a string password and 2FA enabled, there is a possibility that you will at least be targeted for a hack and without a complex password, 2fa and log in alerts you might not even know.

There is a long history of Onlyfans stuff been shared on 4chan and other sites, Reddit used to be a big hub for it too but the onlyfans stuff they now take down as DMCA violation.

Rte are reporting that the Gardaí are investigating and hopefully if the purported cache of images exists?
It will be investigatedd appropriately and action taken.

There is a huge degree of convenience in the timing, and tbh the amount of talk around the existence of pictures, on the net, out there in the ether yet not actually being presented in any form other than as hearsay and 2nd hand just wakes the cynic in me.

I suppose the timing is convenient however I'd hope it's a warning/reminder to those that need it most that sharing nude pictures of yourself in any digital format is risky......
(Of course I know there are allegedly lots of pictures of people who did not know they were being photographed, that is a totally different issue but unfortunately the damage done is far greater now due to technology) - this area is also very difficult to prosecute in, one would think.

banie01

kippy wrote: »

People, in general, need to made aware that posting images in a digital format, even privately is not something you should be doing unless you'd be happy for your granny or parents to see those images.

Very true.
It needs to be appreciated just how easily private moments can be shared.

Similar situation with Gmail and iCloud storage.
If someone has your email and you don't have a string password and 2FA enabled, there is a possibility that you will at least be targeted for a hack and without a complex password, 2fa and log in alerts you might not even know.

There is a long history of Onlyfans stuff been shared on 4chan and other sites, Reddit used to be a big hub for it too but the onlyfans stuff they now take down as DMCA violation.

Rte are reporting that the Gardaí are investigating and hopefully if the purported cache of images exists?
It will be investigatedd appropriately and action taken.

There is a huge degree of convenience in the timing, and tbh the amount of talk around the existence of pictures, on the net, out there in the ether yet not actually being presented in any form other than as hearsay and 2nd hand just wakes the cynic in me.

[Deleted User]

banie01 wrote: »

10 posts, joined today and 1st post was on here as were the majority of the rest of their posts.

Still though. When I re-regged I think I went straight back to a particular thread. I am very naive though in the ways of other re-reges

banie01

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How do you know that?

10 posts, joined today and 1st post was on here as were the majority of the rest of their posts.

[Deleted User]

Mr.S wrote: »

Fairly weird you made an account just to post in this thread, tbh.

How do you know that?

kippy

Just on the 'revenge porn' thing which works both ways, let it be said.
There are two things that are slightly connected:
I don't think 'people' get the fact that prosecuting someone in this area would be extremely difficult for a number of very obvious reasons and indeed relatively easy for someone to avoid prosecution in this area. It'll require a shed load more specialists and will provide lucrative gigs for solicitors.
People, in general, need to made aware that posting images in a digital format, even privately is not something you should be doing unless you'd be happy for your granny or parents to see those images. There are so many avenues open to have those images made public or even exposed to more than the intended recipient, it's scary.
This is not 'victim blaming' before anyone hits me up on it. It's asking for people to have a bit more cop on.
I said it earlier but as good as things generally are nowadays there are many pitfalls of increased technology usage.

[Deleted User]

EileenDunne wrote: »

Yes and no.

But anyone can screenshot. Snapchat even tell you if someone screenshots so it's not like it's a private chat. In any case, it's not different to being on facebook. No one seemed to have a problem with the private whatsapp chats where the lads in UCD were upto naughty stuff.

I was thinking more of a situation where someone could share a naked pic of themselves with another person in a message or where they don't mean for it to be seen publicly.

Any image on a public site though and I think you must take responsibility for yourself. Surely you know the risk involved.

[Deleted User]

EileenDunne wrote: »

Snapchat is not private.

If I have a facebook profile with 10 friends and I post a pic of my dick and it spreads around the internet, who's going to have sympathy for me?

No evidence there's any from google drive or anything anyways.

I haven't a clue about Snapchat. I thought you had to follow people in order to see their content.

[Deleted User]

banie01 wrote: »

Onlyfans yes.
But the alleged leaked material includes material from other sources shared privately and personal photos of claimed underage girls.
All of which would seriously ramp up the criminality of sharing the underage photos.

Currently sharing the other photos onlyfans and the revenge porn that is claimed to have leaked as part of the "hack" aren't necessarily a criminal act.

The proposed legislation will make it so.
Legislation is certainly needed and it's long overdue.
If FG had taken action when Howlin 1st proposed the bill, it'd be 2yrs on the books at this point.

Ah. There was a report a few minutes ago on RTE where a woman spoke about photos being taken from Snapchat and Google Drive. Having images that you think are private taken and shared is a huge invasion of privacy and is even abusive. However I have little sympathy for anyone who posts a naked image of themselves on a public site.

Beechwoodspark

This “story” was on RTÉ news just now.

The guards are saying they are trying to establish the facts before taking this any further

banie01

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Isn't the purpose of Only Fans to use your body and looks for likes?

Onlyfans yes.
But the alleged leaked material includes material from other sources shared privately and personal photos of claimed underage girls.
All of which would seriously ramp up the criminality of sharing the underage photos.

Currently sharing the other photos onlyfans and the revenge porn that is claimed to have leaked as part of the "hack" aren't necessarily a criminal act.

The proposed legislation will make it so.
Legislation is certainly needed and it's long overdue.
If FG had taken action when Howlin 1st proposed the bill, it'd be 2yrs on the books at this point.

Rubberchikken

Anyone who posts naked pics online doesn't deserve respect.
Why should they?

Naked pictures to make money. Posted online on a pay for site. And these people expect respect/privacy/rights. I'd laugh but it's so pathetic. As are the posters on this site and the users.
Get a life.

[Deleted User]

Isn't the purpose of Only Fans to use your body and looks for likes?

banie01

Faugheen wrote: »

Well the plan was to pass this bill through the Committee on December 1st before all of this came to light (and indeed still is) so there’s no ‘bandwagon jumping’ really going on.

This legislation was drafted by Brendan Howlin in 2017. Both McEntee and Howlin met about this a couple of weeks ago and it’s going to come before the committee next month anyway. The plan was always to have this done and dusted by the end of the year.

Did you actually do any research on this or did you just see this to have a pop at a minister when there are files of hundreds of thousands of images involving thousands of women which have been passed around without their consent?

I know many men here are just going to go down the route of ‘shur they shouldn’t be taking the photos anyway’ but of course they would think it’s fair game for lads to share them around as they wish without the woman’s consent.

Ah blame misogyny when all else fails.
If the Minister in question had bollox, my opinion would be precisely the same.
My pop at the minister is squarely and solely for her reference to the thousands of images, and upset Irish women exposed on the internet.
Only they haven't been.
The story is being used as a convenient lens to frame the legislation.
Legislation that FG were instrumental in blocking when Howlin 1st tried presenting this 2yrs ago.

This is a matter of timing, of quite astounding convenience and a story that still has actually not one verifiable iota of proof as to occuring.

A minister under pressure and trying to spin her way out of facing censure over Woulfe and the Supreme court suddenly has a "serious" matter to attend to.
We are 2 days into this story now, and there is still no 1st hand reporting of the leak, no independent verification from anyone without something to gain.
No actual evidence this purposes leak exists at all.

Faugheen

banie01 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/HMcEntee/status/1329754918249492481?s=19

Seriously starting to look that way, another day passes our Justice Minister jumps on the bandwagon.

Yet there is still no actual 1st hand reporting or evidence of this mass leak as yet?
There 100% needs to be better legislation around revenge porn and other outing and sharing of private images.
That needs to be separated from upset Huns complaining that their paid content was shared.
Good legislation does not come from moral panic, much like white van kidnappers, satanic creches and those Romanian hair dying kiddie snatchers?

Where is the actual meat to this story?

Well the plan was to pass this bill through the Committee on December 1st before all of this came to light (and indeed still is) so there’s no ‘bandwagon jumping’ really going on.

This legislation was drafted by Brendan Howlin in 2017. Both McEntee and Howlin met about this a couple of weeks ago and it’s going to come before the committee next month anyway. The plan was always to have this done and dusted by the end of the year.

Did you actually do any research on this or did you just see this to have a pop at a minister when there are files of hundreds of thousands of images involving thousands of women which have been passed around without their consent?

I know many men here are just going to go down the route of ‘shur they shouldn’t be taking the photos anyway’ but of course they would think it’s fair game for lads to share them around as they wish without the woman’s consent.

Limpy

Blitzkrieg It For Hitler! wrote: »

Imagine being a simp and paying money for pictures and knowing they're now freely available online? Ouch!

What about the poor women, they will lose revenue.

85603

Limpy wrote: »

Women shows her snatch online for a few buck's is surprised a pic gets leaked. Spare me.

why do you have to use such a word as 'snatch'. thats so graphic and disrespectful.

Its clunge.

Limpy

Women shows her snatch online for a few buck's is surprised a pic gets leaked. Spare me.

85603

Mister Vain wrote: »

It's scary to think where this sort of thing could go when deep fakes become easier to make. You could see yourself in a porno some day.

good reason to get in one now then.

2025 .. oh that, thats just a deep fake.

Mister Vain

It's scary to think where this sort of thing could go when deep fakes become easier to make. You could see yourself in a porno some day.

The_Brood

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Take away the porn aspect and replace it with anything else.

Your credit card information is stolen and published
An artist has copies of work taken distributed without their consent.
A software developer has a program that's pirated and distributed.
Someone takes pictures of your child from Facebook and puts them onto some Shutterstock website.

Either way, people have access to information they shouldn't have, and that should be illegal. Regardless of the content, regardless of how you feel about the content creators.

The world is online. Good luck getting a job, or bills, or services, or shopping, or chatting with friends, or conducting business without an online presence. Everyone should have a right to online privacy,regardless of who you are or what content you produce.

Credit card information that could lead to your account being stolen may be the exception, but....are you seriously suggesting people need to be employed to try and get involved any time all the other information you mentioned gets shared?

Do you have the slightest clue how much manpower that would require? You'd need half a country's population doing that job.

You'd be 100% better of getting rid of the internet all together than somehow trying to implement that level of monitoring and enforcement.

The_Brood

seamus wrote: »

In that case, it's more than copyright, it's a breach of privacy. There's an implicit understanding that the picture is for the use/view of the recipient only, and it becomes a breach of privacy to show that to anyone else.

But you can see it's wishy-washy, hard to prosecute and the penalties are pretty small if the subject in the photos is an adult.

This is why there are calls to make "revenge porn" a specific criminal act; that is the deliberate distribution of private explicit material beyond its originally intended audience.

That's completely not how it works. I mean anyone who has used emails for any official purpose knows this. If you are sending something online, regardless of what or who it is, unless you put in a legal declaimer that the material is not to be shared, you have no rights to anything. That's why every last company/agency of any kind that deal with sensitive information have that declaimer. Without that, you are completely out of luck.