Brontosaurus wrote: » What would be considered a "good reason" for a SA CF that your typical super would accept? What competitions available in the ROI for such a rifle? As bad as the legislation and licensing process is, it doesn't help that the shooting community doesn't do more to have more competitions using a wider variety of firearms and to try to actually grow such competitions and get new blood into the sport in general...
Grizzly 45 wrote: » Put it down for Bullseye 360,F Class has a section for CF SA rifles as well, although I dunno how many shoot it here. An Riocht in Kerry run an Irish version of service rifle, and there is no problem putting it down for foxing and deer hunting. Although you won't have much fox left if it gets hit by a .308
meathstevie wrote: » You can’t kill a fox deader than dead and if it’s a person’s only rifle which is used for target shooting and two different forms of hunting you could even argue that one gun now does the job of potentially two guns. A win for the applicant and the CS, one can be happy with the L1A1 they wanted and the other can turn around and say they only had to authorize one rifle where there wouldn’t have been many grounds to not grant two.
Munsterlad102 wrote: » Would there be much shooting in foxing? What I mean is are there many foxes around on farms to be shot? Is foxing just done on farms or what? Sorry I’m not familiar with hunting or foxing in general.
Bagpipe wrote: » Is it a thing where you could visit a range to get a feel for these types of firearms before committing to the whole process?
Grizzly 45 wrote: » There are some lads on FB working overtime every nite shooting foxes in different parts of the country, bringing in anything from 6 to 2.So it depends on where you are and how dedicated and how big a population there is in an area.
meathstevie wrote: » Not really since they’re individually licenced to a person on a restricted firearm licence. Ranges who cater for public access including the use of firearms specialise in shotguns for clay shooting and small bore rim fire bolt action rifles for target shooting. The chances of a Chief Superintendent ever signing off on a half a dozen AR-10’s or L1A1’s for use on a range by a corporate Christmas party or stag party is pretty non existent. The closest you’ll come to handling one without a licence will be a deactivated one in a hands on museum.
Bagpipe wrote: » What are the going rates, if you wanted to make a small bit of money on the side?;)
Oh thats fair enough. So theres really no way to try before you buy?
tudderone wrote: » I don't think you can beat the No.4 Lee Enfield for value, ease of getting spares and fast fun. You can shoot a cock on close Enfield nearly as fast (accurately) as anything else. Plus you don't have to go through the rigmarole of getting a restricted licence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH5wWkdi0rY
jb88 wrote: » Look dont believe everything you see on youtube, BOTR is great, some really insightful information there from a very experienced guy at shooting bolt action service rifle. But there are different types, remember he grew up mainly in a Post BAN. Check out the CMP and USMC Service Rifle Introduction on youtube. Thats what its for. The rigmarole, its like anything else, state your case and usage and show competition entry and participation. But start off. Ive said this many times before, get out from behind the keyboard and get to the range, ask the questions to people who participate. Dont rely on your interpretation of a similar youtube video on the subject.
tudderone wrote: » I don't know what you are blathering on about, i suggested it might just as much fun, easier and cost a lot less to start off shooting service rifle with a Lee Enfield No.4. I've been through the restricted thing three times, and never again, it was a nightmare. I wouldn't bother dealing with the guards again unless i had a solicitor with me.
Brontosaurus wrote: » What would be considered a "good reason" for a SA CF that your typical super would accept?
What competitions available in the ROI for such a rifle?
As bad as the legislation and licensing process is, it doesn't help that the shooting community doesn't do more to have more competitions using a wider variety of firearms and to try to actually grow such competitions and get new blood into the sport in general...
jb88 wrote: » I A Semi auto service rifle with any accuracy is a 16 to 17lb rifle which you have to use standing,sitting and prone with a sling, using a 4x powered scope, the skills have to be learned and it takes practice and time. Oh if its a .308 that weight goes up to 25 to 26lbs. Ever held a rifle that weight before its interesting. Are you shooting a Bren gun or a 1918 BAR :eek::eek: Either that or you have a Hell of a lot of bolted on junk on the poor rifle.:D:D The Bren comes in at 22lbs at mk 1 and 2 the BAR 1918 comes in at a few ounces shy of 16 lbs Most come in at around with a loaded mag at appx 10.7 lbs and that's the Springfield M14. The FAL 50 [Heavy barrel bipod squad automatic rifle design] comes in at 13lbs loaded. Those are the 2 heaviest out there in a civilian configuration.
A Semi auto service rifle with any accuracy is a 16 to 17lb rifle which you have to use standing,sitting and prone with a sling, using a 4x powered scope, the skills have to be learned and it takes practice and time. Oh if its a .308 that weight goes up to 25 to 26lbs. Ever held a rifle that weight before its interesting.
jb88 wrote: » Do you hear me moaning about licencing difficulties . (No) You obviously didnt have a fun time with it or want it bad enough to stick with it. Those are your problems, and yours alone to resolve. This isnt the topic The above information I provided is for Semi Auto Service rifle, which is whats required and available for those who want to listen, read and learn. Who mentioned anything about "easy", or "cost". I dont think you have read my other post. thats ok. "How to get a licence for a Restricted Rifle",
tudderone wrote: » Yeah, i bought a sig sauer x5 brand new from the factory, 2.5 k's worth with all the extras, shot it for years and then had my licence renewal refused. After being insulted up to the eyeballs by a chief super who had so many skeletons in his particular cupboard he was forced to retire, i was told they would give me a licence for it, after i'd wasted my money in court :rolleyes:. There is a difference between easy, a bit of a drudge and an absolute waking nightmare. But why shouldn't it be easy? Its seems some garda districts, supers and chief supers use the application process as some sort of trial. Completely unprofessional, but then again this is Ireland.
tudderone wrote: » The law of the land is there for everyone, including the police. You are not absolved from obeying the law, or above the law because you pull on a blue uniform in the morning. The Dail draws up a law, on say licencing a semi-auto centrefire rifle. If it requires you be in a registered gunclub with suitable facilities, have a decent home security set up and have a valid reason, which is either hunting or target shooting, and you meet those criteria, then you should get your cert. But we still hear ****e like "Oh the super in my district doesn't like sound moderators, so won't grant a licence for them", "if you want it be prepared to go to court for it".
