joemurt wrote: » Unfortunately the IRA were not funded by tax revenue like the other side of the conflict. They resorted to criminality to fund their defense when the state disregarded the Irish constitution and abandoned them to the terrorists. Would have kept the crime figures down if the government just did the same as Britain. Signed the cheque.
mynamejeff wrote: » id say its more about a quasi political organisation of criminals and terrorists trying to do whatever they want because they believe that the established governments aren't prepared to confront them
blanch152 wrote: » Glad to see an admittance of basic criminality.
FrancieBrady wrote: » So where is all the outrage and complaint about funerals like this that have been going on for decades? You guys saw the opportunity for some political capital is what happened here. To keep it front and centre you have had to lie and lie again about what actually happened at a funeral. It's called 'using' something to political advantage. In this case a dead man and his family.
blanch152 wrote: » You are goalpost moving again, no mention of a need for respect in your posts. There are traditional routes which the Orange Order walks and marches to celebrate their own, and you want the authorities to dictate to them how they celebrate their own (and I agree with you, by the way), but dare anyone tell republicans what they can do. The hypocrisy is obvious to all.
Bowie wrote: » They ran out of road on their hypocrisy of the two funerals now it's back to the 'RA etc. Poor. Very Trump, Republican stink off the FG online agenda since Varadkar took over, Use to be the odd 'whingers' remark now it's pretty low brow using the dead and their families.
Solutionking wrote: » How many people have died because of the outbreak of Covid? if no pandemic nobody would give a c**p about it. Not sure how you don't understand that bit. The main issue is a political party, in the middle of a pandemic decided to go en mass to another country for no reason other than a rally. Risking the lives of millions in Ireland. The only one using the event for political advantage was SF who ran it as a propaganda event, why else would they think it is ok to take a selfie?
Bowie wrote: » You know well this is about flouting recommendations and regulations during Covid. In that context both funerals were exactly the same regardless of the men buried. Anytime anyone gets cremated there's often a church service, a trip to the graveyard and another service at the graveyard, where the body is cremated. These are common practice. Calling these 'fake funeral(s)' repeatedly is very blinkered, ignorant of how funerals happen, distasteful, disrespectful and Trump like. You are the one trying to distract. I answer your claims head on. Both funerals were exactly the same as regards Covid.
Bowie wrote: » Well Jif, you just sidestepped my entire comment to have a dig at the 'RA, not sure why you bothered quoting me.
mynamejeff wrote: » Coz you have never heard anyone raise issue with masked men firing funs over the grave over some terrorist ? the paramilitary uniforms the usurping of legit traditions ? your slipping again
grayzer75 wrote: » Says it all really :rolleyes:
FrancieBrady wrote: » Where have you or any of the suddenly outraged here complained about these things Jeff? All you have to do is link to it.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I think you'll find they went to a funeral, just like many funerals before this one. Again, did the orations at John Hume's funeral make that a political rally as well? BTW I'm fully aware from the get go that they made mistakes with this funeral, which was why I criticised it from...the get go.
McMurphy wrote: » Deleted it, or photoshopped it away?
Solutionking wrote: » Did you see anyone at John Hume's funeral taking selfies? I didn't.... Question, have you ever seen anyone take a selfies at a funeral?
blanch152 wrote: » I have never heard of any other funeral going to the wrong graveyard for a cremation. It was a fake funeral - the man wasn't buried in the graveyard where he was taken, and he wasn't cremated there either. The Trumpian defence of Sinn Fein continues.
Solutionking wrote: » Did you see anyone at John Hume's funeral taking selfies? I didn't....
FrancieBrady wrote: » Which has what to do with you calling it a 'political rally'? Orations were given at both funerals. What made on a political rally and other not a political rally? Apply it to any funeral of a political party figure. At what point do they become political rally's?
grayzer75 wrote: » Were you at his funeral?
Solutionking wrote: » Yes, did you go?
atticu wrote: » As you were the one who put the post up, you would know the answer. But, I quoted the post before it was deleted, so the proof that you were looking for where you abused another poster is there. The other poster was correct, you do personally attack posters on this forum.
Solutionking wrote: » Have you ever seen anyone take a selfie at a funeral?
imme wrote: » You think the Irish government should have funded the IRA
