FrancieBrady wrote: » Can you point to the exemption give to the state funeral please that made it 'different' to other funerals in the context of Covid regulations? You cannot, so you lie and invent notions of a 'fake funeral'.
While there will be a State funeral for Garda Horkan, because of social distancing and other COVID-19 restrictions many people are prevented from travelling to the service.
McMurphy wrote: » It's about time this nonsense was put to bed. Another lie - dismantled.President to hold memorial service to mark funeral of Detective Garda Colm Horkan’s funeral
FrancieBrady wrote: » It's just lie after lie with these guys. Both funeral and the SDLP funeral a week or two before had restrictions and rules. All three ignored them.
blanch152 wrote: » There was a huge difference between the Storey funeral and the Hume funeral. The Hume family showed Sinn Fein how to bury a man with dignity. Sinn Fein Republican funerals are up there with some Orange Order marches for pompous and blatant displays of sectarianism and division. Time they changed their approach.
McMurphy wrote: » Quote me "abusing" anyone please.
Bishop of hope wrote: » There's a difference between a Funeral and a political rally though. And Storeys funeral was turned into a political rally. That's the difference between the funerals, and no amount of deflection will change that.
FrancieBrady wrote: » It was turned into the traditional graveside oration given to many before him. John Hume received the same, as do many politicians and party activists orations paying tribute to him and his work. Were they 'political'? There has emerged over all this a very dictatorial slant. Seems some party activists here want to dictate how people are buried and celebrated by their own. Nobody demanded you listen to the orations (I didn't) so the 'political rally' stuff is more nonsense.
blanch152 wrote: » Funny that, some people want to dictate where people walk and march and celebrate their own. Republicans don't like the sauce when it is served to them.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Which bit of 'as long as it is done with 'respect'' don't you get blanch?
atticu wrote: » I would, except the post was deleted.
blanch152 wrote: » You are goalpost moving again, no mention of a need for respect in your posts.
Again, I have no interest, and never had in dictating how anyone buries their dead or ndeed how anyone remembers their dead as long as it is done in a respectful way. I respect everyone's right to do that within the law.
[There are traditional routes which the Orange Order walks and marches to celebrate their own, and you want the authorities to dictate to them how they celebrate their own (and I agree with you, by the way), but dare anyone tell republicans what they can do. The hypocrisy is obvious to all.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Again, as often said here, I have no issue with respectful remembrance or celebration. Do it to taunt or disrespect and I will object to it.
blanch152 wrote: » There was nothing more disrespectful than the Storey fake funeral in the middle of the pandemic. When other families were denied their rights on the same day, it was as provocative as any taunting could be. Yet you defend it.
mynamejeff wrote: » traditional grave side oration there you go again trying to usurp the legit traditions of genuine political republicans and attach them to a criminal organisation that used its name . you also called him a player in a conflict ? he was a psychotic criminal scumbag don't be painting him as something he wasn't
FrancieBrady wrote: » We can all engage in amateur phycology. Seems to me he was well thought of in his community. If you require totalitarian controls on how people choose to bury their dead, or bury people you don't like politically or otherwise, better be up front about it and try to legislate? Otherwise, just don't tune in to these things or don't go.
mynamejeff wrote: » id suggest large scale propaganda like that is far from amateur , being thought of well by the party leadership isnt the same either , no doubt some of the awful crimes he committed were on the direct orders of some of those same party leaders. why would you think I would "tune" into or go to such a theft of genuine Irish heritage ?
joemurt wrote: » Fake funeral? Can you clarify?
joeguevara wrote: » So was there a burial ceremony or not?
Fann Linn wrote: » Burial is just the way of disposing of the corpse, same as Cremation. The funeral however is a way of remembering, celebrating and honouring the deceased.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Do they mean he isn't dead? his family will be pleased.
joemurt wrote: » Unfortunately the IRA were not funded by tax revenue like the other side of the conflict. They resorted to criminality to fund their defense when the state disregarded the Irish constitution and abandoned them to the terrorists. Would have kept the crime figures down if the government just did the same as Britain. Signed the cheque.
blanch152 wrote: » Both funerals were not the same. The difference is that in one case a democratically elected government decided a State funeral should take place, and in the other, an unelected cabal of criminals decided Storey should be eulogised in a political rally disguised in the finery of a fake funeral. You cannot counter this point, so you distract and equivocate.
Bowie wrote: » You know well this is about flouting recommendations and regulations during Covid. In that context both funerals were exactly the same regardless of the men buried. Anytime anyone gets cremated there's often a church service, a trip to the graveyard and another service at the graveyard, where the body is cremated. These are common practice. Calling these 'fake funeral(s)' repeatedly is very blinkered, ignorant of how funerals happen, distasteful, disrespectful and Trump like. You are the one trying to distract. I answer your claims head on. Both funerals were exactly the same as regards Covid.
mynamejeff wrote: » id say its more about a quasi political organisation of criminals and terrorists trying to do whatever they want because they believe that the established governments aren't prepared to confront them
