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Journalism and Cycling 2: the difficult second album

magicbastarder

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tomasrojo

A lot of the roads I use in my daily routes have exactly the same space for cars as before. The cars just can't park on the cycle track very easily anymore, and they have to slow down slightly to turn off the main road now, as the turning has been made more right-angled. Oh, the humanity!!

Type 17

Fixed that quote in the RTE press release:

The other reality is that there is now less road space for vehicles.

The other reality is that there is now less road space for motor vehicles.

The road space remains the same.

breezy1985

tomasrojo wrote: »

Of course, it's immediately qualified by saying effectively that cyclists aren't the only transport mode you know and they have to be balanced against all the others. He's been doing this faux balance trick for years, while every time he pops up he's there to undermine active travel initiatives, or even pubic transport.

You often hear too how a 2 lane road is being converted into a 1 lane + cycle lane but this is a lie most of the time as your average city street is 4 lanes wide so it's 2 for parked cars + 1 for moving and 1 for cycling sits not 50/50 it's a 3 to 1 ratio

what_traffic

tomasrojo wrote: »

Of course, it's immediately qualified by saying effectively that cyclists aren't the only transport mode you know and they have to be balanced against all the others. He's been doing this faux balance trick for years, while every time he pops up he's there to undermine active travel initiatives, or even pubic transport.

RTE's goto "Automobile Association" man is very clever.

buffalo

tomasrojo wrote: »

he's there to undermine active travel initiatives, or even pubic transport.

He's a bit of a dick alright.

magicbastarder

tomasrojo wrote: »

he's there to undermine active travel initiatives, or even pubic transport.

you sound like you've a bone to pick with him.

tomasrojo

Doc07 wrote: »

Will try and watch PT to goth to see this. AA road watch Conor Faughnan’s useful quote
"Every time someone chooses to bike, it pays the city in terms of pressure on public transport and on road space,‘
It’s buried way down the RTÉ webpage piece but hopefully this gets stated prominently tonight

Of course, it's immediately qualified by saying effectively that cyclists aren't the only transport mode you know and they have to be balanced against all the others. He's been doing this faux balance trick for years, while every time he pops up he's there to undermine active travel initiatives, or even pubic transport.

Thelonious Monk

I can't watch these things or listen to reports on Pat Kenny etc any more. The texts they read out that come in and the ridiculous stuff they focus on is just unbearable. Hopefully someone else can watch it and review here!

Doc07

magicbastarder wrote: »

it's a little curious that the person who wrote the article for their website is their security correspondent.

Need to ‘secure’ and protect those car spaces and cross city driving !

magicbastarder

it's a little curious that the person who wrote the article for their website is their security correspondent.

Doc07

Will try and watch PT tonight to see this. AA road watch Conor Faughnan’s useful quote
"Every time someone chooses to bike, it pays the city in terms of pressure on public transport and on road space,‘
It’s buried way down the RTÉ webpage piece but hopefully this gets stated prominently tonight

MisterJinx

Constitution hill is one of the few places where I will purposefully cycle on the path as it's simply too dangerous with the busses and cars all fighting to claim the space in the 2 lanes and then back into one lane at the turn off in Broadstone. Haven't seen the new cycle lane but it was very much needed there.

McGrath5

There is going to be a piece on Prime Time tonight looking at Dublin's new cycling infrastructure, will be sure to watch it.

magicbastarder

i drove home from the southside up constitution hill and through phibsboro during the summer, at rush hour. it was a nightmare, and like you say, the extra lane makes no difference. it pinches back to one many times going through phibsboro.
the main junction at phibsboro needs redesigning, they should make the left lane explicit left turn only (except for buses) - you get people running up the inside who want to go straight on, and all that happens is that they then block the lane when an explicit left turn only is signalled.

Stark

As someone who also drives, I'll say this: good riddance to the extra lane on Constitution hill. It's one lane before it and one lane after it, all it does is give people a few seconds to race each other for the sake of getting an extra car ahead and makes the driving experience much more stressful. Having one lane consistently makes for a much more relaxed experience.

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Oh God.

magicbastarder

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Temporary measures? Pop-up cycle lanes leave less room for cars

Amid uncertainty about how long the Covid-19 pandemic will last, one thing is clear right now: in cities and urban areas, councils want fewer vehicles on our roads.
By day and by night, engineering works have been rolled out, all designed to give more elbow room to cyclists.
At Constitution Hill on the northside of Dublin city last month, a big machine scraped away the surface of an old cycle track, leaving a cloud of dust in its wake.
...
The other reality is that there is now less road space for vehicles.
...
Watch reporter Barry Cummins and producer Angela Ryan's report on the roll-out of new cycle lanes on Prime Time tonight on RTÉ One at 9.35pm.

https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2020/1116/1178570-pop-up-cycle-lanes-leave-less-space-for-cars/

breezy1985

zell12 wrote: »

Pedestrians’ anger at cyclists “bombing it” down Tipperary’s Suir Blueway

I've given up on routes like that in Limerick as I barely make it over 10kph.

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Stark wrote: »

I've been meaning to snap a picture of the passive aggressive "pedestrians, use the footpath" sign before the Angler's rest coming from the Strawberry beds. Because every day without fail, the footpath is completely taken up with parked cars.

Nice of them to put it into fancy scrolling text just to make it a good bit harder to read, especially in poor light conditions.

zell12 wrote: »

Pedestrians’ anger at cyclists “bombing it” down Tipperary’s Suir Blueway

Wait till Cllr David and Cllr Kieran hear about cars.

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zell12

Pedestrians’ anger at cyclists “bombing it” down Tipperary’s Suir Blueway

A Carrick-on-Suir councillor has appealed to cyclists on racing bikes not to travel at speed on the Suir Blueway after a cyclist ran into a pedestrian on the amenity route.
Cllr Kieran Bourke stressed the Blueway was a leisure route not suited for cyclists travelling at 40mph.
“They were bombing it down the Blueway, areas of which are just one and a half metre wide.”

Cllr David Dunne recounted how one cyclist nearly went into the river only someone shouted to warn them they were going onto a boat slip.
On a separate issue, he asked the council to advise landowners who cut hedges along the Blueway to clean up the foliage that falls on the route as a number of cyclists’ bikes were punctured due to hedge cuttings

breezy1985

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

But it might annoy and slightly inconvenience wealthy residents groups who make a lot of noise, that's all that matters in politics it seems

What was the hilarious phrase someone on here used a while back "Sorcha and her urban tractor"

Seth Brundle

...but sometimes they realise that they're wrong with their objections...
https://twitter.com/LiorSteinberg/status/1328248586824454146

Guardian Article: 'I got it wrong. Since the changes it's become more vibrant': life in an LTN

Thelonious Monk

mr spuckler wrote: »

Low-traffic schemes benefit everyone, not just better-off, finds study

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/nov/16/claim-low-traffic-schemes-only-benefit-better-off-debunked-in-new-study

But it might annoy and slightly inconvenience wealthy residents groups who make a lot of noise, that's all that matters in politics it seems

mr spuckler

Low-traffic schemes benefit everyone, not just better-off, finds study

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/nov/16/claim-low-traffic-schemes-only-benefit-better-off-debunked-in-new-study

Wildly Boaring

Stark wrote: »

Took this from Street view. Unfortunately the Google street view car managed the one day when the footpath wasn't full of parked cars but I'm sure it'll be easy for me to find a picture of so next time I'm there.

That's her
Think there's more than one sign too.

I used paddle a fair bit at wild water.
Parking for that club is a disaster.
I just used the pub parking, they never minded if off peak.

But yep there can be cars parked anywhere up there

magicbastarder

i'd say people living beside the pub must love it. people revving their engines to pull out of that car park.
we once viewed a house (not too far from there, actually) and one of the reasons we didn't proceed was that it's on a hill beside some traffic lights. the cars pulling away from the lights was fairly loud.

Stark

Took this from Street view. Unfortunately the Google street view car managed the one day when the footpath wasn't full of parked cars but I'm sure it'll be easy for me to find a picture of so next time I'm there.

Seth Brundle

I assume this is the sign referred to...
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3593275,-6.3596258,3a,75y,120.14h,86.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjrzXKqlHPY2xfL6WqC4kPA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
I reckon it was put up by the pub as their car park is a short walk downhill and across the road. The pub don't want any liability for people somehow injuring themselves.

magicbastarder

i'd be tempted to add another sign so.