JP Liz V1 wrote: » I was thinking the same and paying what €5 for a flat pint in a plastic cup
freshpopcorn wrote: » It’s just a way for people to met up with their friends. It’s only a €5. I know people and they are going to the supermarket several times a week just to meet people and have a chat indoors whilst being on top of one another.
JP Liz V1 wrote: » Was surprised today to see a shop serve alcohol to two lads with no masks or visors or shields on which I thought was mandatory
JP Liz V1 wrote: » Yes the supermarket chats, blocking aisles is annoying, at least do outside or if raining sit in the car I don't have issue with a few people meeting up but gangs on a sesh on top of each other is too much Was surprised today to see a shop serve alcohol to two lads with no masks or visors or shields on which I thought was mandatory
freshpopcorn wrote: » I think my point mainly is people don’t care. Lots of people are breaking these regulations in their own way. Of course shops are selling people without masks. I’ve seen it several times.
JP Liz V1 wrote: » We sure aren't in this together anymore with some of the selfish careless behaviour going on
fin12 wrote: » https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/marvellous-winter-dining-news-heaters-19282713
freshpopcorn wrote: » Nope people aren’t. It’s just seen as a half arsed attempt at a lockdown and people have no respect for Michael Martin which doesn’t help.
Treehelpplease wrote: » I will never get this as a reason to not want to follow a lockdown or restrictions. Politicans aren't our parents telling us what to do and giving out if we don't. We aren't following these rules to keep them happy. They are putting in public health recommended restrictions in order to ensure the overall trajectory of the virus goes where public health experts want it to go. When they say wear a mask and you go into the store with a mask on, you're not doing it for the government, you're doing it as public health experts have decided that wearing one makes you and everyone else around you safer. I'm not saying you are but overall I think people are thinking way too much of the government here when it comes to the virus. you're doing all these things like mask wearing, hand washing, saccepting this.
Chuck Noland wrote: » I’d love to know when we get the doom figures each day about people in ICU and on ventilators how those figures from the date in question stand up to the same date from 2015/2016/2017/2018/2019 The fact we aren’t told these suggests too me the figures are actually the same or lower then years gone by otherwise these figures would be used to increase the control and scare mongering over the general population.
freshpopcorn wrote: » ....... All this stuff about places being open for click and collect, being allowed to visit graves, weddings going ahead, etc all just ads to this lockdown as being seeing as joke by people.
Augeo wrote: » Anyone who thinks it's a joke is a gnome IMO. If all weddings were banned and you couldn't visit graves would fncktards stop being fncktards?
freshpopcorn wrote: » I wasn’t going to quote your whole post. I just think he is a poor motivator even people I know who vote and even canvassed for FF don’t have respect for him. It does help tough when your trying to get your message across and for people to take you seriously. Vast majority of people took the message on board about masks and hand washing because it was clear and consistent and they’ve no issue with it. All this stuff about places being open for click and collect, being allowed to visit graves, weddings going ahead, etc all just ads to this lockdown as being seeing as joke by people.
440Hertz wrote: » To be quite honest, it's not very small weddings and graves that are the issue. It's a large crowd of people having pints, the bants and a bit pi$$ up on the boardwalk / bits of green space in the city centre. .....n.
Treehelpplease wrote: » I completely agree with you that a good motivator is needed, but people acting like they're only doing this to make the government happy.. need to have a reality check. As for the last sentence, I agree, some of them confuse me, like when gyms were allowed to have pools open. But it's about trying to keep as many things open as we can instead of going for an all or nothing approach. By visiting a grave you're not doing anything bad for the virus, you're probably alone, near no one, etc. Click and collect means you're in and out and have what you want straight away instead of browsing or walking around people. Weddings going ahead with numbers that ensures it safe and allows us to live with the virus as safe we can - and there would be uproar if they were cancelled fully. I don't think people really think anything is a joke, or at least anything bad enough to dismiss the whole thing, they're just looking for something to justify them ignoring it and make themselves better. If all they do is give out then I don't care, people have free speech and can use their voice to say whatever, I can just ignore. But when people openly disregard the rules like last night and somehow don't see the problem with it or even care to, or stories of churches opening regardless (sin to break the law?) or pubs planning on reopening regardless..
freshpopcorn wrote: » I don’t think people do things to make the government happy and people may not even like their leader but they still might motivate them and may have some respect for them. See I understand you but I’m just saying what I see and what people are doing around me. Click and collect is a handy service but it’s being used for toys, cushions, curtains, etc all for items people don’t and other things that are allowed. It’s bringing workers and customers out for stuff like that isn’t needed. It just allows people to find loop holes and it all just seems like a half arsed approach instead of a stricter lockdown. Which we had back in April and it seemed to have a higher compliance rate.PS, I think we’ll just end up going around in circles if we keep on discussing this.
EnzoScifo wrote: » Mad watching the countries that went for a zero covid strategy having festivals and sports stadiums full of fans while we're here videoing people drinking outside closed pubs
marno21 wrote: » We might be able to pursue a zero-covid strategy if we weren't... Sharing an island with another sovereign state who seem incapable of controlling the spread of the virus where one of the ruling parties seem to favour politicising the pandemic One of the world's most open economies with a strong dependence on air travel Reliant on neighbouring countries for imports which are carried on board trucks which require truck drivers entering and leaving the country 20km away from our nearest neighbour with which we share a common relationship. The carry on in town last night is relatively low risk. I was around town the last 2 Saturdays (nowhere near Electric last night but the racket from that direction was quite loud) but last night many places had been instructed to close early by the Gardai. Instead of all the moaning about what went on perhaps it's time to focus on how realistic it is to try to shut young people into their houses for weeks on end in the middle of winter with no exit strategy.
TAOISEACH Micheál Martin will speak with the Minister for Justice today in a bid to address problems associated with takeaway drinking. [...] Mr Martin told The Echo he was very concerned after seeing the pictures. “It was disappointing to see the large crowds who had gathered. It is unacceptable. “It endangers the efforts of all within society who are doing everything to adhere to our current restrictions. We are all working so hard to keep the level of cases down. “It also undermines the efforts of our frontline workers and our hospitals. “We need to reduce the number of cases in our hospitals and the number of ICU beds being used.” The Taoiseach said he will be contacting Minister for Justice Helen McEntee today as they seek to find better ways of curbing impromptu crowds gathering in public. “We will get a report from the gardaí following the events of last weekend. We will discuss in greater detail this new phenomenon of takeaway drink. We will review it accordingly. “If it is leading to large congregations it will cause major harm going forward. Over the next 48 hours, we will review whether we will allow people to keep purchasing takeaway drink. ” [...] “We have to get the numbers down. What happened on Saturday night in Cork undermined that effort. [...] Gardaí were called to disperse large crowds of revellers who had gathered in various parts of Cork City on Saturday night. Crowds were reported mingling on the Grand Parade, the Coal Quay, Patrick Street. Gardaí dealt with the large crowds in line with current Level 5 restrictions. A garda spokesperson said: “We responded to reports of a large gathering of people on the South Mall. The crowds we encountered were asked to move on in compliance with the current Level 5 regulations. There were no breaches of regulations detected. The people we encountered were easy to deal with. They were asked to disperse and they did without any further incident. There were no further incidents arising from the crowds who had gathered. There were no arrests made,” said the garda spokesperson.
Pen Rua wrote: » https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Taoiseach-Takeaway-drink-gatherings-in-Cork-city-centre-undermine-Covid-efforts--bc05e18d-2053-4df6-8918-be5bdc833890-ds MM weighs in on the takeaway pint scenes.
