FrancieBrady wrote: » Seriously? Do you think any party member sits in high level negotiations and takes decisions without consulting other members of the party? Really? Ever hear of Dominic Cummings?
Deleted User wrote: » Mate,his reason is out there,he gave an interview He was umhappy with the polling figures,with an election due the following year iirc Its not exactly 3rd secret of fatima stuff
FrancieBrady wrote: » So O'Dowd didn't spoil anything. O'Dowd later challenged for the role for the same reasons anyone does, I presume.
imme wrote: » She was crowned VP when Gerry stood aside in 2018. Is there any information on why John challenged her leadership.
FrancieBrady wrote: » No..Michelle O'Neill was already the VP.
FrancieBrady wrote: » It's a control mechanism, simple as that. And guess what, some of that parliamentary party, may never have faced an election. Imagine, unelected people influencing a party. Shocking eh?
imme wrote: » I meant (in case I didn't say it) Michelle stood aside to let Mary Lou be crowned when Gerry left the stage. Her payback was the VP role until John threw a spanner into the works.
McMurphy wrote: » What Francie said, I've been over the ODowd v O'Neill challenge on this site a good few amount of times with different posters already. ODowd challenged her leadership.
Deleted User wrote: » Be that as it may,the membership.did not,and will not ever influence the election result.....this isnt a democratic process,its a farce
FrancieBrady wrote: » Are you sure you know what you are talking about? O'Dowd challenged O'Neill...she and Mary-Lou were already in position.
imme wrote: » Political more than sinister. Was the election of Michelle a foregone conclusion. Did John throwing his hat into the ring upset the foregone conclusion that Mary Lou would get the presidency and Michelle get the VP role. Was the coronation of Mary Lou (was there an election) a foregone conclusion, a broadening of their appeal, a woman, a southerner. They are a political party or am I missing something.
Deleted User wrote: » This meeting membership,was a waste of everyones time, In an electoral college,their votes are immaterial,as it will always be the parlimentry party who decides the election...irregardless of votes.of membership Quiet,how you have convinced.yourself this is democratic is beyond me
imme wrote: » Political more than sinister. Was the election of Michelle a foregone conclusion. Did John throwing his hat into the ring upset the foregone conclusion that Mary Lou would get the presidency and Michelle get the VP role.
McMurphy wrote: » In fairness, you'd have been better googling him, you definitely give the impression you were implying something sinister, and I don't think it was unintentional.
FrancieBrady wrote: » ASF member on here explained it a while back. It is a nominating system as far as I know. Each Cumann nominates a candidate from those offering to stand. If a number are nominated equally an election is held. If there is a stand out nomination they could forward for ratification at Ard Fheis. I may be wrong on details of that.
joeguevara wrote: » How was MLM elected as president of Sinn Fein. Did she receive much of the ballot And how did every other candidate do?
Deleted User wrote: » So effectively its just a vote between the parlimentry party that decides the contest?? And someone could gain 100% of the membership and county councillors and their vote be ignored?......this isnt remotely democratic (This is,as i said a parculilar take on democracy)
Deleted User wrote: » To best of my knowledge,their was no other canditadate?? Personally felt martin ferris,should been given.a run
imme wrote: » John is fit and healthy and his account is still tweeting. "A rumour briefing" I'm not sure what this means. I asked the question if poor John had been heard of since his failed election bid. SF has had that many ministers in the assembly over the years, they are all front and centre and then you never hear of them again, it has seemed something of a revolving door being a SF assembly minister.
imme wrote: » John is fit and healthy and his account is still tweeting. "A rumour briefing" I'm not sure what this means.I asked the question if poor John had been heard of since his failed election bid. SF has had that many ministers in the assembly over the years, they are all front and centre and then you never hear of them again, it has seemed something of a revolving door being a SF assembly minister.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Honest to god...where do you guys get this stuff from? Is there a rumour briefing being given somewhere I don't know about?https://twitter.com/JohnODowdSF
FrancieBrady wrote: » Look up the US 60 minutes programme on it. And read about Boston College's part and the aftermath.
imme wrote: » A weighting was applied to the component parts of the electoral college, that apparently is the way they run. "fooling no one" I'm not clear what you are suggesting here. The NI /deputy leader role went to an election. There were no public hustings. Many political parties have what they call hustings when they have leadership elections. John O'Dowd, former NI assembly minister went up against Michelle O'Neil. O'Dowd gave no media interviews prior to the election.Has poor John been heard of since.https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/revealed-sinn-fein-voting-numbers-for-odowd-v-oneill-leadership-contest-38716424.html
Ulster Unionist Party leader, Steve Aiken, made a point of thanking Sinn Fein MLA, Declan Kearney, who, along with party colleagues John O’Dowd and Alex Maskey observed a moment of silence to mark Remembrance Day in Stormont on Wednesday morning.
Deleted User wrote: » Their lying to you mate,theres no weighting system in the world that can overturn a 200% margin Why you seem to swallow.this unquestioned is your own issue to come to terms with But outside FG,noone is buying it (Weighting is in itself, inherently undemocratic)
joeguevara wrote: » Just started reading about it. Fcucking hell. How did I miss this?
imme wrote: » A weighting was applied to the component parts of the electoral college, that apparently is the way they run. "fooling no one" I'm not clear what you are suggesting here. The NI /deputy leader role went to an election. There were no public hustings. Many political parties have what they call hustings when they have leadership elections. John O'Dowd, former NI assembly minister went up against Michelle O'Neil. O'Dowd gave no media interviews prior to the election. Has poor John been heard of since.https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/revealed-sinn-fein-voting-numbers-for-odowd-v-oneill-leadership-contest-38716424.html
