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Anything like peleton in Ireland

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Does anyone know any companies offering a service like the online spinning like peleton in Ireland?

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Rathminor

One other product to consider is the Wattbike Atom Nucleus.

It’s a top of the range unit, similar to the peloton, and is probably angled slightly more towards the outdoor cyclist who wants to perfect their technique over the winter.

Both are based on giving wattage outputs and give plenty of stats.

My friend recently ordered one and it was delivered in circa 2 weeks via Cavan. It doesn’t need a monthly subscription a la peloton...

Having said all that, I find my peloton absolutely fantastic. (Both systems have FPT tests to set your power zones,) the classes are additictive and the instructors really push you, without you almost realising it, until you see your final post ride stats.

topdecko

PhilipCNolan wrote: »

As its the time of year that people often look to purchase high end home gym equipment...I would just like to share my experience / story...for any prospective purchaser.

Purchased NordicTrack S22i Exercise Bike Jan 2020 for 2700 euros. Initially worked fine and was getting used to it. Due to COVID started WFH and walked dog alot as weather was good.

Tried to use one day around May - didn't work. Called Elvery's ......just directed me to customer support based in UK. I'll say no more about Elvery's.....never again!!!
UK support decided parts had failed and would ship replacements....these arrived late October.....service engineer then tells me wrong parts....so I get back onto ICON-UK Customer support and they now advise will be 12 weeks before parts received.
In short cost 2700...failed after 8 hours use and will be nearly one year before its fixed!!!

My advise....DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FOR Elvery's as they don't support afterwards and avoid NORDICTRACK Brand Gym Equipment......it's Garbage. I'm an Electronics Engineer with over 30 years experience....so have a good idea what I'm taking about.

You need to return the bike to Elverys and get a full refund. I bought an s15i from Gymgear in August. It worked for about 4 weeks and then developed this awful grinding noise in the bottom bracket area. I sent the seller and ICON videos etc and initially they were on about repair and again giving me a ridiculous time frame - the seller put pressure on them and they agreed to a replacement which was delivered by a separate company who hold the courier contract from ICON.

Amazingly the replacement bike then failed with the bit that holds left crank on just coming loose when pedalling. This happened 2 hours after i had set it up. Also the buffering was plainly silly and most workouts on the new bike were interrupted and would not start again meaning had to stop the spin session.
Gymgear were excellent throughout and have offered a full refund. The bike will hopefully be collected this Friday and i will avoid ICON products in future. Would however not hesitate to use Gymgear as they were solid.

THERE IS NO WAY you should accept a 12 week time frame to repair a product that will likely fail again. I would demand a full refund of Elverys as your contract is with them. Do not get distracted by the bizarre aftersales set up that Nordictrack employ where ICON are the ones who do the repairs/ customer has to organise with them etc. These bikes are fraught with issues and i have read multiple threads on American forums of people left with a load of junk in their sitting rooms due to their poor consumer protection. Go back to Elverys and demand your rights under Sale of Goods and services act - your contract is with Elverys.

As the bike broke in the first 6 months it will be presumed to be defective when purchased
"If a fault arises within the first six months of purchase, it is presumed to have existed at the time of delivery and it is up to the seller to prove otherwise or provide remedies. After six months, the consumer may be requested to show that the lack of conformity (eg, a hidden defect) already existed at the time of delivery. The seller should first offer a repair or replacement (liaising with the manufacturer if necessary) and provide this free of charge. If this is not possible or fails to correct the problem, then the consumer may request a refund."
They have failed to repair it in a timely fashion and they must refund you. Do not take no for and answer and threaten them with small claims court.

IMHO there are multiple design flaws with these bikes - but then again the two that i have owned for a brief time both lasted less than a month and 2 hours in one case.

Anyone on here used Echelon bike at all?? Keen to get Peloton like bike but not arsed with Zwift setup as kids would wreck it the blink of an eye.

ctlsleh

yourhero wrote: »

Has anyone managed to install the Peleton app on an IPad or Android device?

yes, you need to change store to the UK first, then install and then change back to the irish store

yourhero

Has anyone managed to install the Peleton app on an IPad or Android device?

07Lapierre

PhilipCNolan wrote: »

As its the time of year that people often look to purchase high end home gym equipment...I would just like to share my experience / story...for any prospective purchaser.

Purchased NordicTrack S22i Exercise Bike Jan 2020 for 2700 euros. Initially worked fine and was getting used to it. Due to COVID started WFH and walked dog alot as weather was good.

Tried to use one day around May - didn't work. Called Elvery's ......just directed me to customer support based in UK. I'll say no more about Elvery's.....never again!!!
UK support decided parts had failed and would ship replacements....these arrived late October.....service engineer then tells me wrong parts....so I get back onto ICON-UK Customer support and they now advise will be 12 weeks before parts received.
In short cost 2700...failed after 8 hours use and will be nearly one year before its fixed!!!

My advise....DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FOR Elvery's as they don't support afterwards and avoid NORDICTRACK Brand Gym Equipment......it's Garbage. I'm an Electronics Engineer with over 30 years experience....so have a good idea what I'm taking about.

Sale of Goods Act springs to mind. the Product you bought is not fit for purpose. If it was me i think id contact Elvery's and demand a refund and ask them to take it back?

PhilipCNolan

As its the time of year that people often look to purchase high end home gym equipment...I would just like to share my experience / story...for any prospective purchaser.

Purchased NordicTrack S22i Exercise Bike Jan 2020 for 2700 euros. Initially worked fine and was getting used to it. Due to COVID started WFH and walked dog alot as weather was good.

Tried to use one day around May - didn't work. Called Elvery's ......just directed me to customer support based in UK. I'll say no more about Elvery's.....never again!!!
UK support decided parts had failed and would ship replacements....these arrived late October.....service engineer then tells me wrong parts....so I get back onto ICON-UK Customer support and they now advise will be 12 weeks before parts received.
In short cost 2700...failed after 8 hours use and will be nearly one year before its fixed!!!

My advise....DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FOR Elvery's as they don't support afterwards and avoid NORDICTRACK Brand Gym Equipment......it's Garbage. I'm an Electronics Engineer with over 30 years experience....so have a good idea what I'm taking about.

nilhg

For anyone who fancies something like the peloton/spin class experience with third party equipment it might be worth having a look at Bkool

https://www.bkool.com/en/fitness

I see there's a free trial and you can take part with just a HRM or cadence sensor

I haven't used this part of Bkool myself but have used the cycling sim, which works quite well.

ChickenBalls

My 2 cents...

I got a nordictrack treadmill during lockdown 1 - Cost 2K Euro from McSports including iFit for free for 1 year. I already have Kickr Core (Turbo for my bike) and Zwift so I'm covered for cycling.

I was using the treadmill with Zwift a few times which works great via Stryd (Footpod) but then I noticed the wife using iFit and the programs it has on it - there is live sessions you can join. I was actually impressed with it tbh - it automatically controls the speed and incline of the treadmill during the workout and I even did the 2019 Boston Marathon course (in 5 parts) with one of the trainers - Ashley Paulsen - Olympic athlete. It does crash every now and then thou. It's an Android device. One tip if you buy one, just get the small screen 1750 model no need for the bigger screen because you can cast to your TV for free

Just search on youtube you'll see the hack. iFit includes strength training, Yoga, running, cycling all of which are pretty good - the app isn't the greatest to navigate thats my only grip.

ctlsleh

jrosen wrote: »

Guess Im part of the wanker cult. lol

I know nothing about other bikes tbh. But I used peloton when I lived in the US and loved the class side of it. It was a great alternative for me when I couldnt make my regular in person class. My building had them in their gym so I wasnt paying anything extra to use them.

I love my spin classes, but there is limited spin in my area with really only 1/2 instructors that are any way good. It really takes a certain type to make a spin class something you love and actually look forward to doing. So for me, someone who needs to be instructed peloton worked a treat.

Me too.......what’s great about is the instructors are very motivating and you’re competing directly with others. It also appeals to everyone in the family as it’s not only spinning, but also includes running, strength and conditioning, yoga, cardio, floor exercises etc.

I considered Zwift, and first of all, to do it properly requires a properly connected solution like KICKR spending up to €1000 or more for that, plus some peripherals. Secondly they are noisy and I didn’t want an actual bike that needs maintenance and oiling in the house. Thirdly, the zwift setup is limited to cycling only and very focussed on that, which is fine if that’s what you’re into.

Peloton is just more accessible and appealing in a family environment, it’s fun, great instructors and really great all round workouts.

Horses for courses.........not a wan7er cult

DaveyDave

jrosen wrote: »

Guess Im part of the wanker cult. lol

I know nothing about other bikes tbh. But I used peloton when I lived in the US and loved the class side of it. It was a great alternative for me when I couldnt make my regular in person class. My building had them in their gym so I wasnt paying anything extra to use them.

I love my spin classes, but there is limited spin in my area with really only 1/2 instructors that are any way good. It really takes a certain type to make a spin class something you love and actually look forward to doing. So for me, someone who needs to be instructed peloton worked a treat.

Is there really no spin class options with existing training platforms?

jrosen

Guess Im part of the wanker cult. lol

I know nothing about other bikes tbh. But I used peloton when I lived in the US and loved the class side of it. It was a great alternative for me when I couldnt make my regular in person class. My building had them in their gym so I wasnt paying anything extra to use them.

I love my spin classes, but there is limited spin in my area with really only 1/2 instructors that are any way good. It really takes a certain type to make a spin class something you love and actually look forward to doing. So for me, someone who needs to be instructed peloton worked a treat.

CramCycle

ED E wrote: »

Its a bit of a w@nker cult, think those that have a stiffy for Apple products. I'll be attacked now in a sec for saying it, but its what it is.

Kickr Bike and Zwift if you have that kinda money and some sense.

To be fair you could say the same thing about alot of people with a Kickr Bike and Zwift, each to their own.

I won't attack you over it, Peloton is not my cuppa tea for a variety of reasons, Zwift was good but also not my cuppa tea in the end but let people do what they want, I say let them at it.

magicbastarder

DaveyDave wrote: »

What does Peloton do specifically with the social aspect that others don't?

i assume peloton is more classes driven? that you've a 'leader' shouting instructions at you from somewhere.

it's the proprietary nature of the hardware that'd have me running for the hills. is there any company offering similar classes, but not tied to their specific hardware?

ED E

DaveyDave wrote: »

What does Peloton do specifically with the social aspect that others don't? This seems to be the key selling point I'm hearing about. You'd get an entry level bike and a very good turbo for a lot less.

Not only is the bike very expensive, it's also £39 a month which is a lot of money for a subscription...

I have zero interest in Peloton, just curious.

Its a bit of a w@nker cult, think those that have a stiffy for Apple products. I'll be attacked now in a sec for saying it, but its what it is.

Kickr Bike and Zwift if you have that kinda money and some sense.

DaveyDave

What does Peloton do specifically with the social aspect that others don't? This seems to be the key selling point I'm hearing about. You'd get an entry level bike and a very good turbo for a lot less.

Not only is the bike very expensive, it's also £39 a month which is a lot of money for a subscription...

I have zero interest in Peloton, just curious.

topdecko

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone any experience with Nordictrack? Same thing but has Irish retailers.

Afraid i had a poor experience recently with Nordic Track. Had to return two bikes due to defects and there are recurrent issues with the software. Keeps buffering and wrecking workouts. Would avoid - good idea poor execution. They don't have live classes which is a drawback as well.

As regards Peloton
1 How difficult is it to get delivered to Irish address? Why are they not selling in ireland - surely just need distributer or something.
2 Does the app work in Ireland - can you access live spin classes? Or do you need to use VPN etc?
3 Given my recent issues with defective machine I am obviously concerned if it develops an issue.

What is next best compromise in people opinion? Tried Nordictrack and have had poor experience.

thanks for any info

Rathminor

jrosen wrote: »

Not sure, I haven't gone through the process myself yet.

You need a NÍ address and UK phone number to register your order, but once the order is logged, you can get around the system and get the bike redirected or collected. See my earlier post.

I got my bike in June and have racked up over 200 classes since ( one class plus one cool down ride each time). It’s a great piece of exercise equipment and the classes are excellent and addictive.

jrosen

Interested Observer wrote: »

Can't think of any off the top of my head but will see if I can figure something, thanks.

Need to give both their address and phone number right?

Not sure, I haven't gone through the process myself yet.

[Deleted User]

jrosen wrote: »

no still not possible, they are not licensed to sell in Ireland. Thats not changing anytime soon.

Do you have anyone through work who may have family or friends up north?

Can't think of any off the top of my head but will see if I can figure something, thanks.

Need to give both their address and phone number right?

breezy1985

Weepsie wrote: »

Peleton are being sued for the unlawful use of over 1000 songs. This is a crowd who have also tried to sue some competitors out of business, sued a layperson for using the term Peleton in something and tried to copyright the word Peleton, and have ben sued by the designer of their bikes for infringing copyright.

They seem like an awful shower to be honest.

God I hate when people try copyright words like that. Those supposedly hip cool Brewdog lads are shockingly bad for trying to copyright common brewing terms

jrosen

Interested Observer wrote: »

Still not possible to buy these in Ireland? Is there an easy way to get one? I presume all the parcel motel type services would either not transport something that size or else charge a stupid amount?

Have just read through the thread and don't have an NI address I can use, ****.

no still not possible, they are not licensed to sell in Ireland. Thats not changing anytime soon.

Do you have anyone through work who may have family or friends up north?

[Deleted User]

Still not possible to buy these in Ireland? Is there an easy way to get one? I presume all the parcel motel type services would either not transport something that size or else charge a stupid amount?

Have just read through the thread and don't have an NI address I can use, ****.

[Deleted User]

Anyone any experience with Nordictrack? Same thing but has Irish retailers.

Rathminor

GalwayBmw wrote: »

Can the bike be used in an old fashioned way - by setting the time, type of program (strength/fat burner etc.) and level? (I heard about preloaded classes but that's not what I'm on).

I understand that its main value comes from the live online classes support, but it'd be nice to get an alternative when no live classes are available by whatever reason.

Can anyone share their experience with it?

Yes it can - effectively you would opt for a scenic ride, and then would set your own cadence and resistance so that you can cycle for as long as you want.

In reality there is such an array of classes, you will never run out of classes from the back catalogue. I also find that as all the classes are available, and your metrics are tracked on an as live basis, you don’t need to take the classes live. I have taken circa 125 different cycling classes to date and non of them have been live.

Classes will range from 5 mins to 75 mins, with a lot of focus on HIIT sessions. Highly recommended.

GalwayBmw

Can the bike be used in an old fashioned way - by setting the time, type of program (strength/fat burner etc.) and level? (I heard about preloaded classes but that's not what I'm on).

I understand that its main value comes from the live online classes support, but it'd be nice to get an alternative when no live classes are available by whatever reason.

Can anyone share their experience with it?

draoicht

marcus2000 wrote: »

Did you figure this out? I just signed up for the free month ...I already have a turbo trainer and use Zwift, but I wanted to try the Pelaton Spin classes....but I can't find the app in the Android app store. It doesn't seem to be available in the Republic. I downloaded it to my firestick, but thats just a few videos. I suppose you need the App to connect it to my trainer??

I sideloaded it to my phone, signed up and got the one month free trial. Working perfectly and now casting to TV from phone.

marcus2000

munkytennis wrote: »

Does the app work down south?

j

Did you figure this out? I just signed up for the free month ...I already have a turbo trainer and use Zwift, but I wanted to try the Pelaton Spin classes....but I can't find the app in the Android app store. It doesn't seem to be available in the Republic. I downloaded it to my firestick, but thats just a few videos. I suppose you need the App to connect it to my trainer??

Rathminor

eastie17 wrote: »

Thanks Rathminor, I have used them alot when travelling and using hotel gyms in the US, had to get up earlier and earlier to get on it which says something. I do like them and think it will definetly be used, I do crossfit 3 times a week but class size are restricted to 7 now and its getting more and more difficult to get in so having one of them would be worth it.
When you mention the UK phone number, is that just to place the order, or is their a dependency on the number as part of your membership after that?

It’s just for ordering. My mate up north had an Irish mobile number so I couldn’t use that when ordering, but I used his wife’s number which worked great.
Previously I had phoned up their customer service, but they wouldn’t take a combination of NI address and non 0044 phone number...
You create your account on the bike itself, so that works fine from Dublin.
I also saw last night that peloton have now introduced a higher spec bike with a 24” monitor this week, which rotates 360 degrees and can also be used for cardio.. it’s called the bike+.
With the launch of the new unit, the price for the packages with the standard bike has fallen by £250 which is a good discount, especially when combined with Sterling haven fallen in recent weeks.

eastie17

Thanks Rathminor, I have used them alot when travelling and using hotel gyms in the US, had to get up earlier and earlier to get on it which says something. I do like them and think it will definetly be used, I do crossfit 3 times a week but class size are restricted to 7 now and its getting more and more difficult to get in so having one of them would be worth it.
When you mention the UK phone number, is that just to place the order, or is their a dependency on the number as part of your membership after that?

Rathminor

eastie17 wrote: »

Anyone know if they have any plans to actually ship to Ireland?

If I got one in the UK, I have a good friend there who would have no issue letting me use his address and forward shipping it to me, however does the app care your IP is in Ireland or any other potential restrictions with the software using it in Ireland? Thanks

Hi,
I have had no issue with accessing either the app from my phone of the bike itself communicating with the peloton server.
The one restraining factor when ordering was the need for a UK prefix on a mobile phone, as once you had an address up north the order could then be accepted on line.

As further feedback, when I bought the bike, I was sceptical as to how often I or my family would use it, given there was still also a monthly subscription fee.Three months in I am now 90+ classes down (equates to 45 plus days, as they always recommend a 5-10 minute warm down). The bike also has no limits on the number of users, so I find that 2-3 of my family use the bike daily.
The variety of classes is also excellent. I like the climbs and HIIT classes, and there are always 5-6 new classes of each weekly along with a massive back catalogue of classes.
Highly recommended if you are thinking of taking the plunge!!