blanch152 wrote: » Ah yes, the Trump defence. Look at me, I am rich, I can't be bad for the economy or the country. The list of parallels between Trump and Sinn Fein continues to grow. P.S. I have never said that what Sinn Fein were doing was illegal, it is just on a par with the DUP taking Russian money to campaign for Brexit.
FrancieBrady wrote: » We are awaiting you identifying these 'crimes' with something other than the feeling in your waters jeff. Have to talk about something.
mynamejeff wrote: » lol deflect and ignore and around we go again , no one believes the lie that sf and the ira aren't a organised crime gang in all but name how about all those who murdered maimed and stole for sf ? lets name them Francie or are you going deny justice again
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Jeff.... just a bit of friendly advice.......... you are wasting your time on this one. Of course unless you want to dance on the head of a pin for the next three weeks.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Surely the massive Trumpian comparison is him holed up refusing to leave the White House and a FG appointee denying that he has been asked to leave his post? One wonders would there be a peaceful transition of power here if the electorate vote for it given the Trumpian cling to power we have seen.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Come on Jeff, name them. Who are you talking about in SF?
blanch152 wrote: » Not at all. After all, Leo won a vote, neither Sinn Fein nor Trump did.
More sinister still than the Tánaiste’s cynical mischaracterisation of the magazine, and his idle threats to sue, is that in the important Dáil debate of confidence in him on 10 November, he complained that Village is “unregulated”. That suggests one of the country’s leaders considers that it should be regulated. Believing, and implying in parliament, that a solution to your prolonged political discomfiture is “regulating” press that you do not like but choose not even to sue, is sinister in a democracy. We heard a lot about the influence of Donald Trump yesterday. Here is its definitive incarnation.
mynamejeff wrote: » Heres a "blast " from the past for you but lots of family of current sf toohttps://magill.ie/archive/who-sinn-féin-was-ira bit more recenthttps://www.ft.com/content/058e757a-54c3-11ea-90ad-25e377c0ee1f
FrancieBrady wrote: » Seamus Woulfe is the FGer behaving in a Trumpian way. I see the Village have just released a statement that is also making a Trumpian comparison which is valid too.
blanch152 wrote: » No comparison, Trump is elected, Woulfe is not. The Village are nothing more than a vehicle for a vendetta by Paddy Cosgrave against O'Toole.
mynamejeff wrote: » aw I don't mind , Brendan this isn't my full time job like some :)
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Thanks Jeff, it would be if you try to go down that road. Appreciate your intentions but in my opinion I’m saving you a lot of angst and anger. And there’s a lot of anger out there.
mynamejeff wrote: » that's the thing with boards isn't it its only those who have personal investments in issues that have to deal with anger and angst. lots of down time these days so its just nice to poke a professional agitator from the on line army and see the reaction :pac::pac: its easy to see what's under the surface with some of these "personalities "
FrancieBrady wrote: » Again, the insinuation. What's 'under the surface' Jeff?
Kraftwerk wrote: » Anger and angst I presume...
FrancieBrady wrote: » Either you have evidence of SF involved in crime or you don't. That article is from 2005 and references actions carried out during a conflict/war that is over. Unless you can demonstrate differently according to the IMC and all who accept their reports (The Irish and British governments) the IRA no longer pose a threat militarily fulfilling their obligations to the GFA.
mynamejeff wrote: » lets start again with this so paul quinn murdered in 2007 , by members of the ira , sf members meet and knew who did it but refused to cooperate
you know all this don't you ? nothing to do with gfa n November 2007, the Independent Monitoring Commission's John Grieve, stated that "We do believe that those involved ... included people who are members or former members, or have associations with members or former members, of the Provisional IRA. but the ira is gone says you .
FrancieBrady wrote: » Where is your evidence here. Who did they 'refuse to co-operate with'? I will remind you obstructing an inquiry or refusing to co-operate with an inquiry is a crime. Was anyone from SF even arrested in connection with this? The IMC and the PSNI and The Gardai know who did it. Knowing who did it isn't the problem. Never denied by me, that former members are involved in crime. I agree with the IMC, the IRA as an organisation did not sanction or commit this crime. There was no obligation on the IRA to be gone, the obligation was to cease military actions and organising and to decommission. All of that was complied with or else the IMC and the two governments are lying to us. I made my decision to vote for SF after reading all the available information on the activities of the IRA.
Bishop of hope wrote: » The available information is that SF is being run by an unelected council, probably the old ira army council. Unless you believe just the SF version that is. So you're reasoning seems a bit askew.
mynamejeff wrote: » Paul Quinns mother " She said he should "go and tell the PSNI and the Gardaí exactly who he was speaking to" in the IRA after the murder.[15] She said she would not meet Conor Murphy until he "comes out publicly saying that he is going to the PSNI to give the names of the IRA that he spoke to in Cullyhanna".[ so the ira isn't got at all then ? what are they doing ?
mynamejeff wrote: » sf thread , why don't you talk about the crimes of sf ?
Allinall wrote: » Ulster bank ( NI ) are looking for their money back.
christy c wrote: » Don't know how they are the richest, large donations from fans help like the one in the news recently. I But brain dead pension proposals and junior infants corporate tax proposals (Apple tax) are not the actions of a party that is economically literate.
mynamejeff wrote: » actually we can claim illegality , plenty of well known criminals were never convicted of their crimes , it doesn't mean they didn't commit them. remember all those murderers and bombers that were never caught …...
