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Cork developments

snotboogie

I noticed that the Limerick equivalent is a very popular thread over on their forum so I thought I might get one going here. To kick things off I'll list the bigger current projects I can think of:

Under Construction

Navigation Square: Four building office development on the former Navigation House site on Albert Quay. 310,000 sq ft of office space for up to 3000 employees. First phase to be completed Feb 19'

89-90 South Mall: 50,000 sq ft office, 5 storey office building.To be completed in December 18'

Dalata Hotel South Mall: Six storey hotel, 165 beds. To be completed in December 18'

Various Student Accommodation: Western Road and Beamish site are under construction, Crows Nest has planning and should start soon, Square Deal is facing appeals, Coca-Cola site on the Carrigrohane Road has had planning for over a year but nothing has happened? O’Riordans Joinery, Gillen House on Farranlea Road, Model Farm Road/Melbourne Road and Copely Street are all at various stages of planning and/or limbo.

Planning/Appealed

Horgan's Quay: Office Space for 5,000 employees, 200 apartments, 136 bed hotel and 3000 sq metres of restaurants and retail. Got planning permission in March but it was appealed by Port of Cork. Uncertain when the final decision will be. Construction on the Hotel will hopefully begin in Q4 this year with the office and apartments commencing in 2019.

Sullivan's Quay: 6 storey Office & 193 bed 4 star Hotel. Planning granted and immediately appealed. Given that demolition is nearly complete I'd expect this to go into construction as soon as planning is granted. Potential hold up over the height of the hotel, at 12 storeys and 47 metres, it is set to make the top 20 tallest buildings in the state if completed. An Taisce not happy.

Former Victoria Hotel: Knocking much of the Victoria and rebuilding to the back and refurbishing the original historic front/facade and to integrate the two sections into a new high order retail unit, of 25,000 sq ft, over four floors. Rumoured to be taken over by Zara. Planning granted in Feb, nothing happened on site since.

Metropole Redevelopment: €50m redevelopment of the Metropole Hotel to include a new five-storey boutique hotel on Patrick's Quay. Planning granted with amendments in March. No date for work to start.

Wilton Shopping Centre: €100 million revamp proposed. Mistake made in planning permission. In the process of resubmitting.

In Limbo

Event Centre: 6000 all seater multi purpose event centre with a tourist brewery experience. Arguably the most controversial construction project in the history of the city. After a bleak 6 months at the back end of 2017 there have been two instances of positive murmurs from the Government and BAM in January 2018 and April 2018. Construction allegedly to start in Q4 2018 but there are still conflicting and contradictory statements from all parties involved. Most would be shocked to see this start in 2018.

Anderson Quay/Camden Quay/Trinity Quarter: All have had planning for years with no work on site. Camden Quay allegedly had some work going on last week but I'd be shocked if it was related to the actual construction. I can't see any of these sites being developed as per their current proposals.

Concept/Pre Planning

Docklands Tower: 40 storey mixed use tower with the redevelopment of the existing customs house warehouses into cultural, tourist and retail space. By a mile the most ambitious development in Ireland. Announced over one year ago and no sign of a planning permission application yet, allegedly waiting for the Docklands development plan this summer to rezone heights for the site. If we don't see a planning application by the end of the year I'd be worried.

Ford Distribution Depot: Put on sale last week. Former site of the extremely ambitious Atlantic Quarter. Major development opportunity

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Apogee

Echo wrote:

North Main Street is set for an influx of students in the coming years as a large mixed-use development, which includes student apartments, has been given the green-light. Twenty-three conditions are attached to the approval from An Bord Pleanála for the 279-bed, 49-apartment, and two retail unit development.Numbers 92 and 95 North Main Street are set to be demolished and a four to seven-story building constructed. One of the conditions includes the submission of a report concerning any adjustments that may need to be made due to Covid-19 travel patterns, which would include incentives to promote sustainable methods of transport.

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Green-light-for-development-on-North-Main-Street--e72933e1-8b9c-4f94-874f-3ffea8964dfe-ds

http://www.bmor.co.uk/north-main-street-cork

marno21

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/amazon-eyes-potential-major-expansion-of-cork-operations-1.4398859?mode=amp

Plenty of City Centre office space waiting for some love at the minute

There’s 67ksqft left in Penrose Dock, but plenty available in Navigation Square, Horgan’s Quay and the Brewery Quarter.

Apogee

Examiner wrote:

The Port of Cork is planning to build a new road from the Jack Lynch tunnel into the Tivoli docklands to open up that area for major redevelopment when it's decommissioned as a cargo-handling terminal. Port of Cork chairman John Mullins said it is envisaged all container loading and unloading will be transferred from Tivoli by the summer or autumn of next year to Ringaskiddy, where there has been a €100m upgrade of facilities.

The Port of Cork is involved in a joint venture project to redevelop the former 114-acre IFI site at Marino Point, near Cobh with Wexford-based Lanber Holdings. It is believed a number of companies involved in oil, agri-feed, and fertilisers are anxious to locate there once it's redeveloped. There has been some speculation that gas companies located in Tivoli might transfer to Marino Point.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40075298.html

snotboogie

marno21 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/amazon-eyes-potential-major-expansion-of-cork-operations-1.4398859?mode=amp

Plenty of City Centre office space waiting for some love at the minute

There’s 67ksqft left in Penrose Dock, but plenty available in Navigation Square, Horgan’s Quay and the Brewery Quarter.

They've been expanding like mad for the last 12 months in Cork but similar to Apple, rarely run to the media to make announcements. I doubt they'd share a building so Navigation Square B would likely be too small.

Promising that this is from the IT as the Examiner have been shocking in their projections of tenancies over the last 2 years.

marno21

SHD consultation has commenced for 161 apartments at Redforge Road in Blackpool: http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/308537.htm
This is quite close to the proposed Kilbarry Railway Station on the Cork Suburban Rail network. Good infill.

The objection to the Moore's Hotel redevelopment has been withdrawn.

Case decision on the North Main Street development: http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/307605.htm

Apogee

marno21 wrote: »

Camden Quay site bought by Santiago Capital DAC for €3.3m

https://www.linkedin.com/company/santiago-capital-dac/
Was full sure this was stone dead. Perhaps a cautiously positive outlook.

Examiner wrote:

A prominent quayside Cork city building/site has been bought for €3.5 million by an UK/Irish group with hotels development and ownership background, but who failed to get planning approval two years ago for a 146-bed budget hotel on the city’s South Terrace. Now changed hands is the high-profile, cleared c half acre Camden Place property on Camden Quay, facing Cork’s Opera House, and 75 metres from St Patrick’s Bridge.Sources identify the buyer as John Kajani, associated with companies Carra Shore and the Seraphine Group, who own hotels in London, Dublin and Waterford. They say he may seek to develop a three-star hotel of up to 180 bedrooms there.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/property/commercial/arid-40076051.html

opus

The rejig of the Queens Old Castle has gotten the go-ahead. Guess that's the end of the Dealz shop there.

Iconic Cork building green-lit for redevelopment

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Macroom bypass update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er0VeEZXcMU&ab_channel=DamoTravel

Patrick 1959

Will the new bypass be built to Motorway or Dual Carriageway Standard ?

marno21

Patrick 1959 wrote: »

Will the new bypass be built to Motorway or Dual Carriageway Standard ?

Type 2 dual. 2 3.5m lanes in either direction and a wire median. Grade separated junctions

kub

marno21 wrote: »

Type 2 dual. 2 3.5m lanes in either direction and a wire median. Grade separated junctions

Wired Median, like the one on The Mallow Road, do you know ?

cantalach

kub wrote: »

Wired Median, like the one on The Mallow Road, do you know ?

Well, that’s what’s called a 2+1 road, and it was a retrofit rather than being designed that way from the outset. A better example of a true type 2 dual carriageway is the New Ross Bypass, if you’ve been over that way since it opened this time last year.

ofcork

Site on camden quay has been bought by a hotel developer.

ofcork

Demolition yesterday on thomas davis street blackpool near flyover good to see some new building on the street.

opus

Took a walk around the new train station earlier to see the hotel progress & the new access to the Lower Road.

The footpath is still closed all the way along Hogan's Quay, zero effort made for pedestrians just a sign directing you into the train station car park.

[Deleted User]

That is horrible, TBH

fonecrusher1

I think its class tbh.

Markcheese

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That is horrible, TBH

It looks a bit better in person .. not much but a bit ...!!!
Don't mess with the jawa ...

hans aus dtschl

opus wrote: »

The footpath is still closed all the way along Hogan's Quay, zero effort made for pedestrians just a sign directing you into the train station car park.

AKA welcome to Cork: "get a car".

marno21

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Withdrawn-appeal-means-Cork-city-hotel-revamp-can-now-go-ahead-opening-planned-for-2023-ac6308b0-ca46-4ea6-a74a-3eeb2fb3f41d-ds

Construction to commence on redeveloped Moore’s Hotel in Q1 2021 with completion slated for 2023.

Market reaction to the Pfizer/BioNTech coronavirus vaccine has been very positive for some of the affected sectors by the pandemic and fingers crossed the positive sentiment will trickle down to the Cork construction market going forward.

fonecrusher1

marno21 wrote: »

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Withdrawn-appeal-means-Cork-city-hotel-revamp-can-now-go-ahead-opening-planned-for-2023-ac6308b0-ca46-4ea6-a74a-3eeb2fb3f41d-ds

Construction to commence on redeveloped Moore’s Hotel in Q1 2021 with completion slated for 2023.

Market reaction to the Pfizer/BioNTech coronavirus vaccine has been very positive for some of the affected sectors by the pandemic and fingers crossed the positive sentiment will trickle down to the Cork construction market going forward.

I have to say that's absolutely hideous looking. But I'm not going to get too upset about it.

questionmark?

It'll look better in real life...................Won't it!!!

The good side is that the site is getting developed but jasus they could have done better with the design. Wonder would they consider hiring an architect to help

fonecrusher1

questionmark? wrote: »

It'll look better in real life...................Won't it!!!

The good side is that the site is getting developed but jasus they could have done better with the design. Wonder would they consider hiring an architect to help

Or someone with eyes.

Still happy to see it get rejuvenated all the same.

Treehelpplease

Thats an old graphic. New one

Curb Your Enthusiasm

What's wrong with normal matching-up windows like the buildings in between them?

fonecrusher1

Jaysis not sure if that's any better tbh. The offset windows are just ugly.

thomil

Fits the rest of the quays in Cork: Wonky, irregular, unambitious, looking as if the architect was off his head on something.

marno21

City Council + LDA to establish office to accelerate Docklands redevelopment. Infrastructure to be funded as part of it

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40078703.html?type=amp

This is absolutely massive news. Having organisations in sync driving this on and acting together cohesively is huge.

questionmark?

marno21 wrote: »

City Council + LDA to establish office to accelerate Docklands redevelopment. Infrastructure to be funded as part of it

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40078703.html?type=amp

This is absolutely massive news. Having organisations in sync driving this on and acting together cohesively is huge.

If the vision is reached it would literally transform the very fabric of the city.
Imagine if the other side of the river got developed as intended as well!!! Between both sides we would be looking at near on 40k people living along the banks of the Lee within walking distance of the centre. The spin off impact in terms of all types of business and transport would be immense!

Rhys Essien

marno21 wrote: »

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Withdrawn-appeal-means-Cork-city-hotel-revamp-can-now-go-ahead-opening-planned-for-2023-ac6308b0-ca46-4ea6-a74a-3eeb2fb3f41d-ds

Construction to commence on redeveloped Moore’s Hotel in Q1 2021 with completion slated for 2023.

Market reaction to the Pfizer/BioNTech coronavirus vaccine has been very positive for some of the affected sectors by the pandemic and fingers crossed the positive sentiment will trickle down to the Cork construction market going forward.

Along with the pandemic, I wonder were Tower Holdings also holding off on moving on with the Prism to wait for the outcome of the election, given that all their business and financial backing is in the States. You would hope with Biden in charge from January and now with a possible vaccine the markets and everything else will be on the up with a bit of stability around. I imagine things will also bode better for them getting a tenant.