440Hertz wrote: » It depends how far it goes. If he’s trying to remain in the White House beyond 12:00 noon (Washington DC time) on 20 January he would be open to being physically evicted from the White House. ... The mechanics of it have probably never been considered, but it would likely be a case of being escorted off the property by White House security.
firemansam4 wrote: » I think this may have been mentioned a few times before but I wonder will Trump even see through the remaining term of his presidency now? He may just decide to resign just before handover and leave that to Pence. He will claim that he doesn't want to take part in a sham from a fraudulent election and will vow to devote his time to uncovering the "truth" of how he sees he was robbed of power.
Exclamation Marc wrote: » 2000 is the obvious example which took 35 days in theory.
Capt'n Midnight wrote: » He could save 130,000 lives during the rest of his term by following medical advice and promoting masks.https://www.dw.com/en/us-could-see-half-a-million-coronavirus-deaths-by-end-of-winter-study-warns/a-55379763 But he's still president and if he stepped down then Pence gets the job and I can't see any US politician refusing that. Conspiracy theory would be that the first thing Pence would do is give Trump a presidential pardon. But that won't stop the civil or local stuff.
Brussels Sprout wrote: » Famously, Hillary Clinton would have won the 2016 election had she just won another 80k votes across Wisconsin, Michigan & Pennsylvania. Well just looking at the numbers as they currently stand this election was even closer then that. The current, total cumulative margin in Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia & Nebraska's 2nd district is only 71k votes. Flipping the 4 of those would have been enough to give Trump a narrow 270-268 win. That margin is likely to come down further still as votes come in in Arizona. Thanks to the Electoral College, this was about as tight as they come.
Girly Gal wrote: » Trump will eventually have to accept the result, he definitely won't barricade himself in the White House. He might be a crass individual, but, he's not stupid,
prawnsambo wrote: » You can't pardon somebody for crimes they haven't been charged with yet. Like it's not a get out of jail free card. And certainly not for crimes committed and indicted for at state level.
looksee wrote: » He is setting the stage for everyone to forgive him all his iniquities in exchange for going quietly and not riling up his base. He thinks.
The Raging Bile Duct wrote: » Can't ever see AOC ever getting a run at president. She is too much of a turn off for the moderates that can flip between Dem and Rep. Some Democrats believed the high visibility of AOC and the squad was a big problem for Biden's campaign.
Carfacemandog wrote: » In a nation of 350mn, this is an excellent example of one of the key reasons that the US is fundamentally broken.
abff wrote: » It wouldn't surprise me at all if he was using refusal to concede as a bargaining chip for a presidential pardon from Biden. Whether Biden would go for it or not is another question entirely.
Carfacemandog wrote: » Actually... He kind of is. Seemingly every time we hear "he won't do [X], he's not stupid" he immediately come flying out doing X, as if he needs to prove how stupid he is on a frequent basis. I expect that this won't be much different.
murpho999 wrote: » How People are entitled to vote for who the want? I don't see how close election results means a country is broken?
droidus wrote: » Its funny you mention that as it completely demolishes your argument. Here is their rating of the 2020 candidates based on public statements, manifestos etc. And here are all the dem primary contenders. As you can see even Bernie Sanders, the radical left bogeyman is barely to the left of most centre left European politicians, which is to say, barely left at all.
Girly Gal wrote: » Some people on here live in fantasy land, Trump will eventually have to accept the result, he definitely won't barricade himself in the White House. He might be a crass individual, but, he's not stupid, he probably knew this was a strong possibility and this is his last stand.
RandomName2 wrote: » But I am personally hopeful for a politician who is built upon compromise. Pelosi probably does more harm than good to the Democratic Party. Having someone who wants to actively work with allies, and those on the other side of the chamber, will be refreshing (fingers crossed).
Brussels Sprout wrote: » ...but it's not really a close election - only in the contorted, anachronistic world of the electoral college. At the same time as that 71k margin is being whittled down by votes coming in in Arizona the overall total margin is increasing by millions in California and New York. Millions of people are disenfranchised by the Electoral College. The USA is the only country where their main election by-passes all of their major cities. Just because it's the convention doesn't make it any less democratic.
weisses wrote: » To me she looks like a perfect example of the "american dream"
ExMachina1000 wrote: » She would fit in nicely with pbp/ rise here I think. But she certainly isn't suitable for the upper echelons of American politics
pixelburp wrote: » While the DNC remains relatively centrist, and the schism between it and the progressive wing stays hostile, there's simply no way someone like AOC would get the votes to put her as Candidate Cortez. Maybe if the ideological needle in the democrats swung more to the left, maybe. Sanders tried twice now and failed to cosy up to the Pelosi strata of the Dems, why would it be thought AOC could do better? And that's before you get to "electability". AOC is hated by a large swath of the America voting public, rightly or wrongly. She's better off staying local and fighting for New York than comprising on a national level - it's a loselose scenario
AbusesToilets wrote: » It will be instructive to see what becomes of the house leadership position. While the Dems won the Presidency, I don't feel they can ignore their failure again at other levels. Just in NC, there's a marked difference between the vote total for Gov. Cooper and the other statewide candidates. How much longer can the Democrats ignore the evidence that the progressive platform is a winning one ?
