Drumpot wrote: » I’m delighted Trump lost, probably one of the most satisfying thing of 2020. But these pictures of Philadelphia on CNN are kind of a bit surprising. The democrats are supposed to be all about being safe during COVID. I’m not complaining , it shows how relieved people are that Trump lost but if these were republicans celebrating a Trump win there would be uproar. Also shows how we will all interpret the same actions of different people depending on what we support.
prawnsambo wrote: » The difference is that one is a spontaneous gathering and the other is organised.
ExMachina1000 wrote: » Biden wont be "left"enough for the vocal far left. Police won't be defunded Embassy wont be moved from Jerusalem Etc For the vast majority of Democrats who by European standards are firmly centre at least his presidency should be a return to normality but i predict it wont be complete harmony once the reality of Bidens beliefs and policies unfold
Hurrache wrote: » Pretty much all wearing masks aren't they? Plus if you were watching CNN you'd have seen them comment on it too.
Drumpot wrote: » Maybe but it’s unwise and if those were republicans celebrating a Trump win people in here wouldn’t be as understanding.
Drumpot wrote: » I am watching CNN. There’s plenty of crowds bunched up together. Dress it up all you want but it’s irresponsible and there’d be moral outrage if these were pictures of republicans.
Itssoeasy wrote: » Once they are wearing masks they could be Jedi’s for all people care because despite what people say a mask isn’t political.
Drumpot wrote: » I totally understand it , I’d be a staunch Biden supporter in this battle. If anything I’m just pointing out how we can let our own prejudices (Trump outdoor rallies bad) skewer our interpretations of things. Part of the issues in politics is that no side reflects on its own behaviors, it’s always pointing out the others flaws.
Itssoeasy wrote: » Well trump rallies aren’t bad in and of themselves. It’s the near complete lack of mask wearing is the issue.
Drumpot wrote: » They are not all wearing masks, I’ve seen plenty without them or wearing them incorrectly.Some of you are just excusing it because it’s democrats. The response of some Of you shows why there are such divides in politics , absolutely no self reflection, the others are always worse then my team....
Drumpot wrote: » I totally disagree , The rallies were a joke with or without masks.
Hurrache wrote: » C',Mon, defund the police? You're still missing the point of what that is.
Five Eighth wrote: » Some might view Trump a buffoon, an ignoramus, uncouth, coarse and semi-illiterate but…he does, as far as others are concerned, represent the views of many US citizens. Amongst these citizens are ‘working-class’ working white men and women. These citizens, sometimes referred to as the ‘left behinds’ view their world as disappearing before their eyes because of: -Mass immigration - Globalisation - Indifference towards national traditions - Stifling political correctness - Identity politics - Hyper individualism - Growing gap between rich and poor Many of them have no longer the possibility of well-paid industrial work as the old industries close and, in their place, the gig economy, minimum wages, poor working conditions with weak or no union representation. Many are suffering from intense anxiety about their looming status as a minority group in their own country. These are decent, hard-working people who are not ‘deplorables’ and should have their legitimate views respected by the political class.
ExMachina1000 wrote: » Yes defund the police. Many of the extreme minded individuals on the left side subscribe to this kind of mentality among other topics. But that is surely only a tiny percentage of Democrat voters. They are vocal though and I think over the coming year it will come up that Biden is more centre than some on the furthest fringes hope for. But like all things in life. You can't please everyone.
Brian? wrote: » Give over. Bide never supported defunding the police.
captbarnacles wrote: » Biden won those voters 52 to 47.
ExMachina1000 wrote: » I know he didn't. His policies are fairly down the centre in fairness. What I'm saying is that those on the fringe might be expecting him to be something he wont be and they are vocal. It's not him.
~Rebel~ wrote: » That really is a huge distinction though... like, with them is unfortunate, without them is disaster. I think you would see a stark difference in imagery had this been a Trump celebration party, in that masks would be on far fewer people. I've honestly not seen anyone in these images not wearing a mask. I'm sure there are some, but I would guess less than 1%. As much as the imagery of groups of people may look similar, that distinction is the difference between likely transmission and unlikely transmission. I agree with you it's unfortunate that it's happening, but since it is happening, at least it's happening the right way.
Drumpot wrote: » I don’t fully agree that’s it an awful lot different but I do agree it’s unfortunate that it’s happening. The saddest thing is that this is a great day and this is how I’m interpreting these celebrations.
ancapailldorcha wrote: » Oh yeah. He's got fully autonomy. He made these decisions himself. It's not often you see someone fall from so high though.