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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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StringerBell

CruelSummer wrote: »

I’ve been thinking this all day, they’re clearly trying to incite violence & unrest. It’s all part of the strategy to try and hold onto power & it might force election counts to be put on hold.

A large swathe of these people genuinely believe the bull**** they are being fed and as such will feel righteous. This mixed with how much that country loves its guns is a very dangerous mix.

paul71

bennyl10 wrote: »

Saw it on twitter

https://twitter.com/_stephaniemyers/status/1324467748441710592?s=21

That looks like little Don, big Don has been sulking in his bedroom for 36 hours now with his Ipad and big mac meals.

Itssoeasy

TomOnBoard wrote: »

I think thats Junior, along with Doug Collins.

You mean Doug Collins who split the GOP in Georgia ? If you got these lads in a lucky bag you’d ask for another one.

And so it’s not the president it’s his son. I wasn’t going to watch even if it was the president but I’ve even less will to do it now. I’ll stay up until midnight and then it’s good night and good luck.

everlast75

https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1324478272734986241?s=19

"Help me Amy Comey Barrett, you're my only hope"

CruelSummer

StringerBell wrote: »

The narrative is clear I think and so is the strategy, I don't think it will work but I think it will cause absolute chaos and I'd not be surprised to see it cause a fair bit of violence and even death. Hopefully I am wrong on that but its very dangerous to stir people up like that and he clearly inflames their passions for whatever reason I don't want to insult them tonight.

I’ve been thinking this all day, they’re clearly trying to incite violence & unrest. It’s all part of the strategy to try and hold onto power & it might force election counts to be put on hold.

An Ciarraioch

harr wrote: »

Off to bed .. I am gone cross eyed looking at figures and listening to yanks all day. If I don’t go now something else will pop up to keep me chart watching way into the night ..again ..,

Anyway what’s the chances of joe having the 270 before I wake?

Georgia seems to be counting the remaining votes relatively quickly, and with Biden keeping pace with his target, could be finished within the next 4-5 hours.

bennyl10

TomOnBoard wrote: »

I think thats Junior, along with Doug Collins.

Ah!
My mistake misread!

The war monger speaks instead

harr

murpho999 wrote: »

Off to bed?

It's only night 3. No stamina.:D

****ed mate not able for these all nighters ...

everlast75

Francie Barrett wrote: »

"total war" - that's an invitation for people to take up arms.

Most of his supporters will have bone spurs...

TomOnBoard

bennyl10 wrote: »

Trump to speak at 11..

I think thats Junior, along with Doug Collins.

Water John

The same nonsense was tried in Pittsburgh last night, Giuliani flinging around all sorts of wild allegations.

[Deleted User]

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

Good points.
And regarding the bit in bold it's been speculated that Trump will spend the remaining few months in office doing his best to leave the country (even moreso) in tatters, which the help of Mitch. And then of course, without the Senate, Biden will be a bit of a lame duck with regards to economic recovery.

Yeah the next couple of months is going to be looong for hundreds of thousands if not millions of people who've had a few months with no income.

I do agree that the Rep candidate in 2024 will have a very good chance of winning, but I'm not convinced that Trump would have won had covid not come along. It's a handy excuse for his supporters though, because obviously no one can say for certain what would have happened.

I think it's accurate though. When you look at the margins in the close states I find it hard to believe that Covid wasn't what flipped them. Would've been some craic if the polls had Biden 4 points up in all and Trump won them with the same margin. :P

BorneTobyWilde

Francie Barrett wrote: »

"total war" - that's an invitation for people to take up arms.

Yep, I'm sure twitter will be deleting that when they see it .

bennyl10

embraer170 wrote: »

Where has that been reported?

Saw it on twitter

https://twitter.com/_stephaniemyers/status/1324467748441710592?s=21

TomOnBoard

Great and extremely clear statement by the PA Secretary of State, completely trashing any allegations of voter fraud.

Trump will be livid with her.

Water John

The PA Sec of State has just said whilst all votes won't be counted the figures by the end of today with show who the winner is.
So we'll know. I think the way she spoke was code that Biden would be clear but I might simply be projecting, nighty night Harr.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

embraer170 wrote: »

Where has that been reported?

I think Don Jr has announced he's holding a press conference in GA at that time. His rhetoric will be of great interest to the GOP.

[Deleted User]

Itssoeasy wrote: »

They said that about this election. Well if Biden assuming he wins gets covid under something resembling control then the country may open up more and it may not be as bad economics wise, and while not as good as it could be, I think Biden will get the credit for steadying the ship.

The trouble is that he has to right the ship with no money. And the ship is still taking on a tonne of water. There are short/mid-term effects that haven't hit yet. Airlines will be restructuring massively. There's a lot of people who have just clung on til now, another 6+ weeks is a long time for them. Over here we have tools to cushion blows, pay for re-training, raise taxes, increase spending. Over there they won't be able to pass anything.

Oh yeah the deficit which funny enough the alleged fiscally conservative GOP seemed happy to just go along with.

The truth doesn't matter anymore to a lot of people.

Francie Barrett

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1324473707121778688

"total war" - that's an invitation for people to take up arms.

StringerBell

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

Good points.
And regarding the bit in bold it's been speculated that Trump will spend the remaining few months in office doing his best to leave the country (even moreso) in tatters, which the help of Mitch. And then of course, without the Senate, Biden will be a bit of a lame duck with regards to economic recovery.

I do agree that the Rep candidate in 2024 will have a very good chance of winning, but I'm not convinced that Trump would have won had covid not come along. It's a handy excuse for his supporters though, because obviously no one can say for certain what would have happened.

I dunno, I mean with everything else that he has done in the 4 years and with this pandemic and his truly awful handling of it the man still absolutely smashed expectations and increased his vote significantly. I think he would have walked it without Covid, I really do and I wouldn't have thought so beforehand.

WoollyRedHat

bennyl10 wrote: »

Trump to speak at 11..

I WANT TO GET OFF MR. BONE'S WILD RIDE!

murpho999

harr wrote: »

Off to bed .. I am gone cross eyed looking at figures and listening to yanks all day. If I don’t go now something else will pop up to keep me chart watching way into the night ..again ..,

Anyway what’s the chances of joe having the 270 before I wake?

Off to bed?

It's only night 3. No stamina.:D

harr

Off to bed .. I am gone cross eyed looking at figures and listening to yanks all day. If I don’t go now something else will pop up to keep me chart watching way into the night ..again ..,

Anyway what’s the chances of joe having the 270 before I wake?

StringerBell

The narrative is clear I think and so is the strategy, I don't think it will work but I think it will cause absolute chaos and I'd not be surprised to see it cause a fair bit of violence and even death. Hopefully I am wrong on that but its very dangerous to stir people up like that and he clearly inflames their passions for whatever reason I don't want to insult them tonight.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Deleted User wrote: »

It's super-important to remember that the truth barely matters any more, particular in the case of Trump supporters.
The way that the economy was before Covid was fine. Unemployment down and all that. Even without Covid however it was a time-bomb with a ludicrous deficit and little room left for growth. It was a question of timing. Kinda similar with 9/11, things were about to get bad but there was a catastrophe that could mask the underlying numbers so once recovery started "Ah sure it wasn't the government's fault".
The next 2 years will be incredibly rough with little room for increasing spending. Congress will be split and where will there no way to increase taxes. The map should be excellent for the Dems in 2022 but if we're in the middle of a depression then it won't be.

Good points.
And regarding the bit in bold it's been speculated that Trump will spend the remaining few months in office doing his best to leave the country (even moreso) in tatters, which the help of Mitch. And then of course, without the Senate, Biden will be a bit of a lame duck with regards to economic recovery.

I do agree that the Rep candidate in 2024 will have a very good chance of winning, but I'm not convinced that Trump would have won had covid not come along. It's a handy excuse for his supporters though, because obviously no one can say for certain what would have happened.

embraer170

bennyl10 wrote: »

Trump to speak at 11..

Where has that been reported?

everlast75

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1324473707121778688

He'll first have to deal with the indictments coming from Tish James, E J Carroll's rape defamation case, possible obstruction of justice charges, campaign finance charges and pay $400,000,000 dollars personally guaranteed within the next 3 years.

Take a seat Donny, and hope that you get a pardon from daddy dearest

jasonb

bennyl10 wrote: »

Trump to speak at 11..

Well that encourages me to go to bed then! 😀

Itssoeasy

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1324473707121778688

So they want to stop looking like a banana republic four years too late. War is a very loaded word and he’s the unelected offspring of the president digitally flapping his gum. It’s true that money doesn’t buy you dignity and class.

murpho999

Foxtrol wrote: »

But if they were smart they'd have had a narrative and a public figure that might be able to persuade people. Instead they have rambling Rudy and no name lawyers as spokesmen while Trump tweets in all caps, which are quickly hidden for breaking the twitter rules.

It is like his whole presidency from day 1, there is absolutely no planning.

The narrative is that "they" are stealing the election.

I genuinely think that the whole show is being dictated by and run by Trump himself.

He has an incredible belief in his own ability and appoints people around him who are sycophants and mostly afraid of him. Therefore only giving him advice that he wants to hear.

You only have to look at the amount of firings and resignations from his administration to see how he manages.