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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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Brussels Sprout

This must be excruciating for Trump and his supporters to see all of these states fall one by one : Wisconsin, Michigan, probably Pennsylvania, possibly Georgia. Hell there was even a bizarrely long time on election night when Virginia was red!

What's even worse is that there were many periods throughout the past 2 days where things looked really optimistic for him. They say "it's the hope that kills you" after all.

Disclaimer: If Trump somehow pulls it out of the bag that pain would be 10 times worse for his opponents.

The Iron Giant

Some insight into where it historically lands in Philly which suggests there could be 100,000 more at least in that city for Biden.

https://twitter.com/pkcapitol/status/1324411911161716738?s=20

prawnsambo

I suppose this could be viewed as conceding: 'I'll win if they only count my votes and not his'.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Francie Barrett wrote: »

The guy who tweet the original version of this (that Trump retweeted) has admitted he was wrong.

I mean, he should have known something was awry there. A report stating that 100% of votes went to one candidate would absolutely be cause for concern but you'd really want to double-check before posting about it because it's so unlikely.

I'm glad he issued a mea culpa but he still spread misinformation that morons will likely continue to latch on to.

droidus

Its strange that the only places Im seeing 100% votes coming in are in places where there have been historic issues with voting machines.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidManel/status/1323921182622732288

~Rebel~

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

Biden's deficit in GA down to 13,540 votes - down from about 14,765 a few hours ago.

Can we get some counters with more nimble fingers on the case? I love a bit of suspense, but christ...

The Iron Giant

Biden's deficit in GA down to 13,540 votes - down from about 14,765 a few hours ago.

ancapailldorcha

If you're going to make a damming accusation about one of the parties, please provide a link. Stating a conspiracy theory as if it were fact is below the standard of this forum. Posts deleted.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Will any counties finish today?

Vital Transformation

Even just looking at one of the counties in Georgia, DeKalb. 19,000 votes uncounted, so far that county is 83% in favour of Biden and he's 14,000 behind across the whole state. More than 25k votes to be counted in Fulton and he's 72% up there.

Biden is leading all the bigger places still counting in Georgia, I think he will win that state.

Mr.Nice Guy

According to CNN, Biden's team believe Trump will make gains today in Arizona via Maricopa County but are counting on making up for that tomorrow in Pima County, where Tucson is.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

There was people pointing out on twitter yesterday the irony that the first major news network to call the election will be Fox.

Itssoeasy

thecretinhop wrote: »

why are the Democrats blocking observers into counts. nothing to see here wow.

They aren’t blocking observers.

VinLieger

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I said it at some point last night or this morning that Fox News and the AP were out of step with the other networks so if Nevada went to Biden it was six electoral votes it would be 270. I mean Fox News may up being right but I’ve said it several times they were a bit eager to get out of the blocks.

TBH they were going off incorrect data which showed the AZ count at 98% instead of 86% they should have just manned up and admit they made an easy mistake

Itssoeasy

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

https://twitter.com/nxthompson/status/1324404107290021888

I said it at some point last night or this morning that Fox News and the AP were out of step with the other networks so if Nevada went to Biden it was six electoral votes it would be 270. I mean Fox News may up being right but I’ve said it several times they were a bit eager to get out of the blocks.

prawnsambo

TomOnBoard wrote: »

It's twaddle, Francie...

https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/0dd425c5

Always best to take anything on Twitter like that as complete twaddle unless confirmed otherwise by somebody reputable. Many somebodys preferably.

The Iron Giant

Foxtrol wrote: »

I've only read back 5 or so pages so apologies if this was posted already.

It is a great breakdown of where the remaining votes are expected to come from that haven't yet been counted.

Really explains why Fox and AP have been so steadfast with not changing their call on AZ.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1324381481821720582?s=20

This is great, I hadn't realised that Nevada is so heavily towards Biden at this point in the remaining votes. Similar with Arizona and to a lesser extent Pennsylvania. It explains a lot of the optimism which hopefully comes to pass.

Christy42

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

https://twitter.com/nxthompson/status/1324404107290021888

This assumes Nevada will in fact finish counting enough for it to be called before AZ. I think today's counts are also not meant to be massively Biden friendly in Nevada with things improving later but this delays a call.

VinLieger

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

https://twitter.com/nxthompson/status/1324404107290021888

Thats hilarious and i handt thought about it

Brussels Sprout

https://twitter.com/nxthompson/status/1324404107290021888

Francie Barrett

The guy who tweet the original version of this (that Trump retweeted) has admitted he was wrong.

jjmcclure

No betting please.

Brussels Sprout

Foxtrol wrote: »

I've only read back 5 or so pages so apologies if this was posted already.

It is a great breakdown of where the remaining votes are expected to come from that haven't yet been counted.

Really explains why Fox and AP have been so steadfast with not changing their call on AZ.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1324381481821720582?s=20

That's great, thanks. I like the look of all of those blue circles. If anything it appears that Biden will only extend his leads in AZ and NV and that's all he needs to get to 270.

Edit: I suppose the worry is though that just because the previous votes in a county were blue does not mean the future ones will be particularly if there is a material difference in their source. For example, I believe the Maricopa county votes remaining were from Drop Boxes on election day and apparently these skew Trump.

Graham

jasonb wrote: »

Are they stopping all counting in PA or is it just that one county that was stopped and then restarted again?

Graham wrote: »

Just that one set of votes in Allegheny, not the whole county/state.

Correcting myself here,

looks like they've stopped all counting in Allegheny County until tomorrow.

Christy42

Gintonious wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324401527663058944

The seeds for this were planted months ago, all of this is by design by Trump and his team.

Awful.

It is very like his lying strategy. Which is to keep moving. Keep changing it up. Never give the Dems time to hammer home one point because you have moved on and forgotten it. People forget the details because so little time was spent on it and just remember the smoke.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Foxtrol wrote: »

I've only read back 5 or so pages so apologies if this was posted already.

It is a great breakdown of where the remaining votes are expected to come from that haven't yet been counted.

Really explains why Fox and AP have been so steadfast with not changing their call on AZ.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1324381481821720582?s=20

Thanks for this. A really informative graphic. County names mean very little so this is really helpful.

TomOnBoard

Francie Barrett wrote: »

It does look like there is actual voting fraud.

https://twitter.com/fleccas/status/1324237476186202113

I checked for myself. A 118 year old dead man named William Bradley did indeed vote in the 2020 election in Detroit.

That is not to say that the vote may have been cast for Biden. Indeed, there may be fraudulent votes out there that went to Trump as well.

It looks like this is going to be a real mess.

It's twaddle, Francie...

https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/0dd425c5

MJohnston

Francie Barrett wrote: »

It does look like there is actual voting fraud.

https://twitter.com/fleccas/status/1324237476186202113

I checked for myself. A 118 year old dead man named William Bradley did indeed vote in the 2020 election in Detroit.

That is not to say that the vote may have been cast for Biden. Indeed, there may be fraudulent votes out there that went to Trump as well.

It looks like this is going to be a real mess.

The 1900 one is because of this:
https://twitter.com/franky_bauer/status/1324358745141530624?s=21

The William Bradley one looks to be his son who doesn’t show up as having voted and has an identical address. Likely to be error rather than fraud.

breezy1985

Gintonious wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324401527663058944

The seeds for this were planted months ago, all of this is by design by Trump and his team.

Awful.

STOP THE FRAUD under a picture of Trump is not the look I think he wanted to go for there

Foxtrol

I've only read back 5 or so pages so apologies if this was posted already.

It is a great breakdown of where the remaining votes are expected to come from that haven't yet been counted.

Really explains why Fox and AP have been so steadfast with not changing their call on AZ.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1324381481821720582?s=20