Call Me Jimmy wrote: » See my post above yours about the ruling. If the USPS has done anything illegitimate or there is any sign of ****ery on their part then let's see the evidence. I'm not doubting it, but I'm sure the democratic operatives / lawyers will be bringing it to the attention of the people and the courts if that's the case.
Jimbob1977 wrote: » Call me old fashioned, but I think every election should require a voter to turn up at a polling station on election day. No pre-voting weeks before Election Day or postal votes (where postmarks are being debated!!). The only exception should be postal votes for the verifiably infirmed or hospitalised.The American system is ripe for fraud.
Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: » Why is this an issue for you, and Republicans, only now? Mail in ballots is one of the safest ways to vote, has proven to be over and over again, and has been done for decades by those in the military. You might think you're presenting a valid point, but you're not. That lawsuit was an embarrassment to the Republican party, and it won't be forgotton what they have tried to do here.
moon2 wrote: » If you post something a week before election day and the postal service *does not* deliver it by election day, that vote should absolutely be counted. I appreciate there needs to be a limit on how long you can wait for votes to arrive, but 'a couple of days' is definitely a very reasonable thing to promote democracy and ensure no-one is disenfrancised by virtue of their local post office being underfunded/underperforming. The best example is that the USPS in Florida may have failed to deliver 300,000 votes. https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/elections/2020/11/03/usps-ordered-to-search-for-mail-ballots-on-election-day/ It's shocking that a failure of the USPS, potentially caused by interference by the current government, is going to disenfranchise so many votes. It's especially troubling when this is more than sufficient to swing the election.
everlast75 wrote: » https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1324341206306967552?s=19 Interesting to hear this. Allays my fears somewhat
Call Me Jimmy wrote: » "Ballots can be counted if they lack a postmark, a legible postmark or some other proof of mailing unless a “preponderance of the evidence” shows it was mailed after Election Day, the court said." Maybe I misunderstand it but that is different to what you're saying I think.https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-pennsylvania-elections-courts-41b7c3a620dd3ba1b9c741fb80ff8466
letowski wrote: » Biden will win Pennsylvania north of +100k when all is said and done.
everlast75 wrote: » https://twitter.com/PaulBlu/status/1324349677660184585?s=19 This needs to be acknowledged. It was Trump's plan to downplay the virus, get his supporters to the polls on the day and as democrats would most likely post their ballots to reduce COVID exposure, declare victory on the night and set the narrative that the postal votes were rigged. This was all by design.
murpho999 wrote: » Nevada said they wouldn't report anything until today. Also Fox have also called AZ as Biden and are adamant and sticking with it despite criticism from Trump's camp. They've based their call on where the votes outstanding to come in from. Yes, but you just have to have patience with these things sometimes. Venting is no problem. I think he'll take PA, AZ ,GE & NE. That would put him at 306 v 232 for a comprehensive victory that cannot be legally challenged.
Call Me Jimmy wrote: » Have to be careful here because saying 'all votes get counted' is a bit misleading. The democrats fought for extremely lax restrictions in PA, the postmark one being indefensible (nobody has defended and I have challenged many to do so). So the democrats want crazily lax restrictions imo, and the Republicans want to stop that one, I wouldn't consider that voter suppression. Obviously people will disagree about different instances, this is politics and I accept both sides will fight for the outcome that favours them no matter what. But the idea that it is necessarily voter suppression to is a bit too much. (I didn't mean to imply you called it voter suppression, but it is the common theme I've heard)
prawnsambo wrote: » Can I defend that one? Within reason (and I define that as having been postmarked within the normal postal time to get to the centre by polling day) I can't see why properly postmarked votes that get to the centre after polling day shouldn't be counted.
murpho999 wrote: » That would put him at 306 v 232 for a comprehensive victory that cannot be legally challenged.
paul71 wrote: » North Carolina announced yesterday that they are not counting again until 12th November.
Call Me Jimmy wrote: » Have to be careful here because saying 'all votes get counted' is a bit misleading. The democrats fought for extremely lax restrictions in PA, the postmark one being indefensible (nobody has defended and I have challenged many to do so). So the democrats want crazily lax restrictions imo, and the Republicans want to stop that one, I wouldn't consider that voter suppression. Obviously people will disagree about different instances, this is politics and I accept both sides will fight for the outcome that favours them no matter what. But the idea that it is necessarily voter suppression to is a bit too much.
dogbert27 wrote: » Alaska is only 50% reported. Are there more mail in votes to count there?
dogbert27 wrote: » I really want to see those two called asap but Nevada is only reporting at 75%. The AP though have Az called already for Biden so I just want it confirmed. He just needs one more State then.
Christy42 wrote: » Sure but I want this in the bag. I have no interest in Biden having a lot of chances and coming up short in each.
StringerBell wrote: » I'd agree, I just felt like venting my concerns I think he holds Nevada, and I am confident in Arizona, I've always been strong on Georgia if you have seen any of my posts about them even on election night when he was so far behind initially but I would also really love PA to put the stamp on it. Uphill battles in some areas but doable.
StringerBell wrote: » Even as Biden closes the gap to 100k+ in PA and he is in with a shout in Georgia I'm actually more concerned today than I've been for the last two days that he may just fall at the line, the only thing keeping me quiet really is that trump clearly thinks he's lost so I assume his campaign teams projections are for him to lose if all votes get counted.
Brian? wrote: » I'm sorry, but that's hyperbole.
jasonb wrote: » Trying to get a sense of where we are in the remaining states. I see on the AP Map that NC hasn't updated its totals in over 24 hours, it's been stuck on 94% estimated votes. I know NC is leaning Trump and Biden probably doesn't need it at all, but am curious about what's taking so long? Nevada announced yesterday they wouldn't be doing anything until today, did NC do the same and I missed it?
Brian? wrote: » Honestly, people need to calm down about the guns. These guys are armed every day. They didn't take the gun out of storage to go protesting. Most of the long rifles are 22 calibre semi autos. If things kick off they haven't a hope against the police or National Guard. They know that.
Dillonb3 wrote: » Apparently Rashida Tlaib's staff done a lot of that for the Democrats in Michigan and Ilhan Omar's in Minnesota
Dillonb3 wrote: » Looks like Trump is starting another Lawsuit. Must have knowledge Nevada isn't going his wayhttps://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1324350906796834820
dogbert27 wrote: » The AP though have Az called already for Biden so I just want it confirmed. He just needs one more State then.
