south wrote: » Unfortunately Tado got back to me and said " The controller is not compatible and you won't be able to replace it with tado°." They asked for photos of the thermostats and said "The thermostat is compatible and you will need the Wired Thermostat Starter Kit to replace this" I asked would I be able to control hot water with the wired kit and they replied No. I think I'll have to send the whole thing back.
Bluefoam wrote: » Sounds like a mess. Bin it and use a system that works.
deezell wrote: » They sell additional wired stats to pair to the bridge, so it's not unreasonable to expect them to function as a seperate zone stat. Perhaps when he registered his main kit it appeared as the single ch zone plus HW, they're unaware he has an extra stat. If you gave them your current controller info and had only registered 1 stat, I could see how support would say it wouldn't work, (unlike the utilities flogging the Hub Controller dumb stat, they will happily combine your two zones into one on installation, and do a legger).
south wrote: » This is what I sent them, I haven't received any of the units yet but they'll be delivered today so not registered yet Hello, I've already purchased tado° Wireless Smart Thermostat Starter Kit V3+ with Hot Water Control plus a tado° Wired Smart Thermostat - Add-on and I'm wondering if I purchased the right product as I'm waiting on it to be delivered. My system set up is Boiler- Ideal logic system s24ie Controller - EPH controls R37-HW E1820c Thermostat - EPH B1831 Second thermostat EPH B1831 Both thermostats are wired thermostats. I've 3 zones in my house, upstairs downstairs, and hot water. They then replied saying the controller wasn't compatible and asked for photos of the thermostat and wiring. Thanks for the help Deezell
deezell wrote: » Doesn't make sense, if both your stats are wired,you can just drop one or both tado stats n place of one, then You just set the eph to always on, or remove it and bind the two stat wires for CH 1 and CH2 from terminals 5 and 7 to the live of the ext kit. You then connect the HW wire from 3 to the Ext kit HW on terminal. If you want to uses the main stat wirelessly, say CH1, then connect terminal 5 to the ext kit CH on, and either turn up CH1 old stat full or else remove it and join the live and return together and blank off the hole in the wall. I don't see their problem, it's perfectly possible to setup a 3 zone system with 1 stat with ext kit, and one extra wired stat. Maybe they think you have wireless stats to the EPH, which would mean no existing wires for the wired Tado stat.
south wrote: » Hi Deezell, I was hoping to give this a go today and was wondering if this is the correct way to wire the extension kit? I was thinking that I'd wire the thermostats to where the existing ones are already. I was want to make 100% sure before I go at it so that we don't end up with no heating for the weekend! Thank you.
deezell wrote: » :Use the tado baseplate for reference, not the back 9f the unit as the pins are from the left wgen you turn it around,, only wreck your head. Ypu wire to the base plate not the unit, and the diagrams are for the base.
south wrote: » Very good point!:D so 1,5,7 to live and 2 to N and 3 to 3 on the extension kit?
deezell wrote: » Sorry about late reply, yes, your wiring is correct, sending live to the stat locations, and using ext kit terminal 3 to send timed HW on to the HW valve. Note that the stat paired to the ext kit will use it as a wireless receiver, so check that the stat's own relay is closing, as it's possible that it may be disabled on the assumption that you are taking its SL from the ext kit. Mode jumper has to be in position 2.
south wrote: » I appreciate you taking the time to get back to me deezell, I've wired up now and everything paired but unfortunately I'm not getting the option to control the hot water with the app. There's no option available whatever is going on.
deezell wrote: » If you want to have a crack at the installer mode, page 14 below, work though the options and turn HW mode on, your app should recognise this and enable the HW timer. Alternatively, drop support a line and ask for HW on, two wired stats. You did pop the mode jumper into position 2, with the dot on the bottom?https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KRGbtTNoust23GEX3lXtgx6akSbArrJx/view?usp=drivesdk
deezell wrote: » Terminals 4, 3 and 6 on your device's wiring block to terminals 1. 2 and 3 on the Drayton wall plate. ESI
savemejebus wrote: » Sorry for the giant picture post now (due to quote) but finally got backplate off the ESI, pic, attached, am i getting this right?
deezell wrote: » If that's the ESI wall plate, then 4, 3, and 6 are CH1, HW and CH2 respectively. You can see that all three have wires attached. You've labelled 5 as CH1, but its the one to the left, 4. No wire on 5. These three wires to 4, 3 and 6 go to Drayton 1, 2 and 3. The numbering on the wall plate starts from the left AFTER the live and neutral, so third from the left is 1, etc.
masterboy123 wrote: » Hello Everyone, I have 3 zone EPH heating system (not RF version). One for hot water and other 2 for ground floor and first floor heating. This is the system I have:https://www.ephcontrols.com/section/3-zone-programmer-2/ Any idea if I can use Sonoff 4ch Pro to control the heating system remotely? Much appreciate your help.
deezell wrote: » You can indeed, just connect 3 Sonoff relays' Common and NO terminals across live and the 3 EPH channel outputs. You can leave the eph there, all channels set to off. This is handy to just time/switch the zones on and off by app, no thermostat control. If you have CH and HW stats wired into your EPH circuits, these will continue to set temperature. Not very sophisticated, but for €30-40, handy for remote boost and other functions.
masterboy123 wrote: » Hi Deezell, Many thanks for the info. Do I need just 1 sonoff 4ch Pro? See the link below :https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0793NYYPZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_h85OFbS1ZAZPY And can I turn off the heating from outside of the house?
deezell wrote: » I note it connects via Wi-Fi, and by direct connection to the phone, but also via the router. No reason why the Sonoff ewelink app, IFTTT (sub required?), Alexa or Google Home can't operate outside of the home if the device is connected to your router, and not directly to your phone Wi-Fi. That's where it gets tricky. Your router must have 2.4 Gh WiFi connection enabled to see the Sonoff. It can't connect to a 5Gh router. If your router is dual, you may have to turn the 2.4 band on if it's off. Lots of users here with Sonoff connected to heating, lights etc. It's worth a punt (or 30 euro), and hopefully your configuration will go smoothly. Hopefully one of the Boards users will comment. I dont have any sonoff, but I'm aware that a lot of cheap smart stuff only works well when subs are involved, cctv, controllers, some thermostats etc. Easy to buy a bargain and get a surprise. Yes, one device has 4 relays.
emaherx wrote: » The 4ch Sonoff will work fine, no subs required. Router may need to be set to 2.4Ghz to setup but will work fine on a dual band 2.4/5Ghz after. I find in most cases the setup works fine in dual band mode too but instructions advise against so may depend on your router. There are Sonoff temperature sensors so system can be expanded for temperature control. No direct connection from phone, it needs to be connected to a WiFi network, but I presume that shouldn't be an issue.
savemejebus wrote: » Feel like a smacked arse now, thought I had the pic right, rushing and distracted didn't proof it. Will see about fixing it but thank you.
masterboy123 wrote: » Hi Emaherx, I have 4G mobile broadband (we don't have Internet lines laid yet in the new estate). Will Sonoff 4c work well on 4G Huawei b818 router? I will check out their temperature sensors. Also, could I install Sonoff myself? .
savemejebus wrote: » I think that iv'e got it now, does this look right? I take it that two wires going to one terminal is ok?
deezell wrote: » Yes. I take it you're referring to the two blue neutral wires together on the N terminal. That's ok also.
captainshamroc wrote: » Looks like Drayton listened. I remember few people here weren't happy with the lack of this feature.https://wiser.draytoncontrols.co.uk/new-and-improved-wiser-app?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Wiser%20Home%20launch&utm_content=Wiser%20Home%20launch+CID_4b3395c25d449a8bfffecdbb24d03af3&utm_source=Email&utm_term=Find%20out%20more# Scheduling heating is quicker and simpler We’ve made your schedules more accessible and you can now set multiple rooms to follow one schedule, perfect if you want an upstairs and downstairs schedule! Create and tweak your schedules quicker than ever to maximise both your energy savings and your comfort, and you'll save time too by copying any schedule to other days or rooms in your system.
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