Would you report a crime, or try to stop a crime talking place

Kylta · 05-11-2020 09:13AM #1

If you seen a crime taking place would you reported it to the police?

Or would you be reluctant to get involved?

Or would you report it anonymously?

And given the fact that we pass crimes been committed everday. Would you interfere in a criminal act if you seen one happening in front of you?

And if so which crime would you interfere in, in trying to stop, would it be any crime or would it be certain kind of crime, say like robbery, rape, drug dealing, murder, etc

Icaras · 05-11-2020 09:17AM

Kylta wrote: »

And given the fact that we pass crimes been committed everday.

What crimes do I pass every day?

punisher5112 · 05-11-2020 09:18AM

Matt Damon

amadangomor · 05-11-2020 09:20AM

Rang the Guards about someone driving from my house hammered. Felt kinda bad but had to as he could easily have killed/seriously injured someone.

Didn't have his reg/exact address so Guards not interested.

Metalrobe · 05-11-2020 09:20AM

This must be the most scattered and thrown together thread I've ever seen. I rarely ever witness a crime and it ofcourse depends on the crime.

If someones getting beaten up ofcourse you are going to help. If it's just someone running out the door of a shop with a packet of penny sweets that's a different story.

The Mighty Quinn · 05-11-2020 09:22AM

Saw a truck backing out of a yard in town one day, take the front off a parked car, I was sitting in a parked car across the road.

Truck driver got out looked at the damage, looked around and drove off.

In the meantime I'd pulled out my phone and snapped a couple of pics of the truck reg and yer man inspecting the damage.

I went to the garda station and reported it, photos were taken. Got a call from the car owner next day to thank me, said it was all being sorted. Car was a write off

Kylta · 05-11-2020 09:26AM

Icaras wrote: »

What crimes do I pass every day?

Actually. Iacarus, thanks. The context of passing crime everyday is in regards to people openly selling drugs in dublin. I understand were all not from dublin. But I'm sure there are drugs sold openly in other cities etc. So when I say you pass a crime committed everyday, well if your living in a remote part of the country it might not be true. Thanks for letting me clear that up

Everyday when I go through town, I'm talking about dublin, I see people selling drugs, along the quays, its a fact.

whisky_galore · 05-11-2020 09:32AM

Tried to stop a bunch of our 'cultural' brethren making off with materials in a workplace as in putting myself in harm's way.

Got a fat lot of thanks from the boss for it, they could clean the place out next time.

Kylta · 05-11-2020 09:32AM

Ure

Metalrobe wrote: »

This must be the most scattered and thrown together thread I've ever seen. I rarely ever witness a crime and it ofcourse depends on the crime.

If someones getting beaten up ofcourse you are going to help. If it's just someone running out the door of a shop with a packet of penny sweets that's a different story.

What im curious to find out is are we selective on what we class as a crime.
And are people reluctant in the attitude to interfere if they see a criminal act taking place in front of them

listermint · 05-11-2020 09:36AM

Stopped some 'mobile' individuals relieving a neighbour's pickup of his tools in the rear two weeks ago. He was less than twenty meters away cutting hedges and hadn't noticed the car stopped with the boot opened ready to bale his tools.

Also ran a drug user off from stealing bikes near the Odeon Harcourt street . Had to jump out of a passenger seat in a car for that.

olestoepoke · 05-11-2020 09:37AM

I reported a theft to the Garda and they told me theres nothing they can do. Wifes handbag was taken off the back of her chair eating out at a local bar restaurant. I immediately went home to track her iPhone which was in her bag along with her purse money etc. I watched the phone/handbag travel down the m1 and onto the m50, get off at tallaght and stop in a house in tallaght. I took my laptop to the guards and told them the story and they told me theres nothing they can do with the evidence. I had the address where the handbag was.

corner of hells · 05-11-2020 09:37AM

Kylta wrote: »

Actually. Iacarus, thanks. The context of passing crime everyday is in regards to people openly selling drugs in dublin. I understand were all not from dublin. But I'm sure there are drugs sold openly in other cities etc. So when I say you pass a crime committed everyday, well if your living in a remote part of the country it might not be true. Thanks for letting me clear that up

Everyday when I go through town, I'm talking about dublin, I see people selling drugs, along the quays, its a fact.

Maybe if you change your route , you might avoid seeing the guys on the quays and then see no crime.

The Mighty Quinn · 05-11-2020 09:38AM

Kylta wrote: »

What im curious to find out is are we selective on what we class as a crime.

I don't think so. I think most if not all people would acknowledge if not agree with things like selling or purchasing cannabis as a crime.

What I do think is we react much differently to different crimes. Can't be getting worked up over ever illegal act we witness.

begbysback · 05-11-2020 09:39AM

Kylta wrote: »

Actually. Iacarus, thanks. The context of passing crime everyday is in regards to people openly selling drugs in dublin. I understand were all not from dublin. But I'm sure there are drugs sold openly in other cities etc. So when I say you pass a crime committed everyday, well if your living in a remote part of the country it might not be true. Thanks for letting me clear that up

Everyday when I go through town, I'm talking about dublin, I see people selling drugs, along the quays, its a fact.

Have you ever thought of buying some to help you chill out?

Oink · 05-11-2020 09:45AM

olestoepoke wrote: »

I reported a theft to the Garda and they told me theres nothing they can do. Wifes handbag was taken off the back of her chair eating out at a local bar restaurant. I immediately went home to track her iPhone which was in her bag along with her purse money etc. I watched the phone/handbag travel down the m1 and onto the m50, get off at tallaght and stop in a house in tallaght. I took my laptop to the guards and told them the story and they told me theres nothing they can do with the evidence. I had the address where the handbag was.

It’s not always that accurate. I located my wife’s iPhone in a bank once when she was in the shop next door.

At the same time I feel your pain. To be able to track a phone all the way to Tallaght, probably to the right house, and then being told to let them get away with it? I’d be fit for a rage-induced heart attack.

Kylta · 05-11-2020 09:46AM

corner of hells wrote: »

Maybe if you change your route , you might avoid seeing the guys on the quays and then see no crime.

They don't bother me, I live in an area that has is a lot of anti social activities going on.

eviltwin · 05-11-2020 09:48AM

Rang the gardai one night when I heard my neighbour beating the crap out of his wife. I actually at one point thought he was killing her. They didn’t bother to show up.

Feisar · 05-11-2020 09:50AM

Icaras wrote: »

What crimes do I pass every day?

I'm always passing out lads that are speeding:pac:

Kylta · 05-11-2020 09:50AM

begbysback wrote: »

Have you ever thought of buying some to help you chill out?

Unfortunately I gave up my recreational drugs a long time ago. Chill out. I don't really need

Jequ0n · 05-11-2020 09:50AM

Generally no, I wouldn’t. None of my business as long as it doesn’t affect me.
If I saw you deliberately hurting an animal I’d beat the **** out of you there and then though because punishments are never fit for purpose in these cases.

GarIT · 05-11-2020 09:59AM

Kylta wrote: »

Actually. Iacarus, thanks. The context of passing crime everyday is in regards to people openly selling drugs in dublin. I understand were all not from dublin. But I'm sure there are drugs sold openly in other cities etc. So when I say you pass a crime committed everyday, well if your living in a remote part of the country it might not be true. Thanks for letting me clear that up

Everyday when I go through town, I'm talking about dublin, I see people selling drugs, along the quays, its a fact.

I walk around Dublin 2 daily, except for during the pandemic. Seeing someone selling drugs is something I see every few weeks or months, hardly daily. I do probably see junkies daily though.

Kylta · 05-11-2020 10:10AM

Jequ0n wrote: »

Generally no, I wouldn’t. None of my business as long as it doesn’t affect me.
If I saw you deliberately hurting an animal I’d beat the **** out of you there and then though because punishments are never fit for purpose in these cases.

Actually I might be wrong on this, but I think nobody gives actually cares about crime involving other people, I think when the crime is personal to you, your family and friends, then it becomes an issue, I think people in general don't want to get involved.

Jequ0n · 05-11-2020 10:26AM

Kylta wrote: »

Actually I might be wrong on this, but I think nobody gives actually cares about crime involving other people, I think when the crime is personal to you, your family and friends, then it becomes an issue, I think people in general don't want to get involved.

Of course not, we are selfish creatures by nature but we seem to struggle admitting it.

DilD · 05-11-2020 11:54AM

Depends on the crime, depends on my relationship to the victim and depends on the location.

Someone nicking something in a shop like Tesco etc. I just mind my business.

Someone being attempted to be raped, yes you step in if you can and is safe to do so.

A fight or altercation after a night out, if I don't know the person, sorry to say but I carry on my way. I don't know what the altercation was and who did what so I have no ground to get involved.

A mugging etc. Again if I don't know the victim I carry on my way. I lived in London for years until recently and on a few occasions I walked passed people getting mugged on the street. Felt like a prick for just letting it happen but I'm not involved, too many people getting knifed there every day so I'm sure as hell not putting myself in that situation, good friend of mine had his cousin stabbed during a robbery on the street, he died.

I didn't call the cops either in these instances, no point in a city that size, it happens all the time so the cops literally can't track these guys down anyway.

amadangomor · 05-11-2020 12:00PM

DilD wrote: »

Depends on the crime, depends on my relationship to the victim and depends on the location.

Someone nicking something in a shop like Tesco etc. I just mind my business.

Someone being attempted to be raped, yes you step in if you can and is safe to do so.

A fight after a night out, if I don't know the person, sorry to say but I carry on my way. I don't know what the altercation was and who did what so I have no ground to get involved.

A mugging etc. Again if I don't know the victim I carry on my way. I lived in London for years until recently and on a few occasions I walked passed people getting mugged on the street. Felt like a prick for just letting it happen but I'm not involved, too many people getting knifed there every day so I'm sure as hell not putting myself in that situation, good friend of my had his cousin stabbed during a robbery on the street, he died.

I didn't call the cops either in these instances, no point in a city that size, it happens all the time so the cops literally can't track these guys down anyway.

On the stepping in to stop a fight I got a lesson in Phibsboro.

A man and a woman were kicking a man on the ground across the street from me. Were kicking his head so I decided to intervene. The girlfriend grabbed me and said don't. A few seconds later they were lifting him and off they went carrying the fella they were kicking in the head a minute before , all pally.

If I intervened the 3 of them would definitely have turned on me.

Pauliedragon · 05-11-2020 12:07PM

There was a bit of a debate about that lately in Cork. Some oul lad was getting a hiding outside a shopping centre with plenty people around but nobody stopped it.

DilD · 05-11-2020 12:13PM

Pauliedragon wrote: »

There was a bit of a debate about that lately in Cork. Some oul lad was getting a hiding outside a shopping centre with plenty people around but nobody stopped it.

That's different in my eyes, if there are a number of people who can easily and safely intervene then they should do so I feel.

A fight's a fight I think, whatever caused it. But if someone goes to the ground, the fight's over in my eyes. Those who carry on beating someone they've already knocked to the ground is a clown, and those who kick people in the head are straight up muppets. Hit someone a slap all you want if there's an altercation but end it there.

pgj2015 · 05-11-2020 12:28PM

Jequ0n wrote: »

Generally no, I wouldn’t. None of my business as long as it doesn’t affect me.
If I saw you deliberately hurting an animal I’d beat the **** out of you there and then though because punishments are never fit for purpose in these cases.

what if you saw someone robbing a house, would you call the guards?

I would and have reported crimes, I hate the kind of spineless people who turn a blind eye. me fein attitudes.

pgj2015 · 05-11-2020 12:32PM

Jequ0n wrote: »

Of course not, we are selfish creatures by nature but we seem to struggle admitting it.

I have stopped guys getting kicked on the ground a couple of times, the first time the mob turned on me but I got away and got help from bouncers, the second time I managed to stop the thug.

DilD · 05-11-2020 12:32PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

what if you saw someone robbing a house, would you call the guards?

I would and have reported crimes, I hate the kind of spineless people who turn a blind eye. me fein attitudes.

Definitely yes. When people think they can just come along and take what others worked hard for, they're scum and should get what's coming.

pgj2015 · 05-11-2020 12:35PM

DilD wrote: »

Definitely yes. When people think they can just come along and take what others worked hard for, they're scum and should get what's coming.

someone told me before that they wouldnt get involved if a house was being robbed, as it wasnt their business, the same person wants their kid to become a guard lol.

Would you report a crime, or try to stop a crime talking place

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