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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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TomOnBoard

StringerBell wrote: »

You'd wonder if it was either

A. The support for trump helped the GOP down ballot because trump
B. The assumption that Biden had it in the bag and typical GOP voters wanted to ensure there was a check on his power.

Yeah, I dunno. All I do know is that I believe there was an irrational exuberance attached to The Lincoln Project, as though they were some kind of Robin Hoods, when in fact, they were just the Sheriff of Nottingham in disguise!

Faugheen

murpho999 wrote: »

I've switched over to Fox from CNN.

I'm surprsied at Fox's coverage. 2 calm and balanced presenters and they have interviewed representatives from both parties and challenged Trumpr representative for evidence of voter fraud.

Fox’s election coverage is excellent.

Their problem is the absolute shock jock goons they have posing as journalists on their schedule.

TomOnBoard

StringerBell wrote: »

Been sending out e-mails (a lot of them) fundraising for the legal fight.

Both campaigns are doing that as we speak.

everlast75

Possible, not probable, but possible Biden vould take PA, Georgia and Nevada tonight.

In other "Fox sticks 2 fingers up to Trump" news..

https://twitter.com/jwpetersNYT/status/1324128772849913863?s=19

OhHiMark

Mellor wrote: »

No new outlet has called any state based on patterns of votes for a candidate who is behind . It's universally when they are ahead with an gap that can't be closesd.

This isn't true. Virginia was called by the guardian (and possibly the AP) when Trump was ahead. A few states were called before a single vote was counted.

StringerBell

Strumms wrote: »

Only about 7,500 in it in Nevada

Been like that for a lonnnnnnnnng time, they haven't released any numbers in hours.

Seems like they might bring out something though ahead of their 9am time they set themselves earlier due to the interest in the count.

Shelga

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ah now, no earthly reason to go down that route. Kamala Harris will be the Dems nominee in any event as she'll almost certainly take over after the mid terms should Biden win.

Will she though? Are these people really going to vote for mixed race woman with no children? I fear that it'll be seen as VP being one thing, POTUS quite another.

[Deleted User]

This is it wrote: »

Presume that's Arizona? Leaving the Nevada 6 for 270

Sorry AP as is Associated Press.

They have Biden at 51% 1,411,235, Trump at
47.6% 1,318,219 for Arizona with 86% reported, while Nevada. 49.3% 588,252 and 48.7% 580,605, with 75% reported

TomOnBoard

murpho999 wrote: »

I've switched over to Fox from CNN.

I'm surprsied at Fox's coverage. 2 calm and balanced presenters and they have interviewed representatives from both parties and challenged Trumpr representative for evidence of voter fraud.

Yeah, Brett Baier and Martha Mc Callum have been steady. None of the Gutfield or Ingraham histrionics.

For me however, the John King/Wolf Blitzer twofer has been the most exciting and informative.. Jeez, King has some head for sums!!!

StringerBell

TomOnBoard wrote: »

Yeah, I dunno. All I do know is that I believe there was an irrational exuberance attached to The Lincoln Project, as though they were some kind of Robin Hoods, when in fact, they were just the Sheriff of Nottingham in disguise!

Well....thats a separate issue but okay, I wouldn't be a huge fan of some of the LP guys either.

TomOnBoard wrote: »

Both campaigns are doing that as we speak.

Okay, was just responding to a poster who was saying the trump campaign had no money left.

errlloyd

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Biden closing in at a rate of knots in Georgia

It's actually annoyingly slow! Biden has caught up by about 47k over the course of the day and remains 57k behind.

StringerBell

OhHiMark wrote: »

This isn't true. Virginia was called by the guardian (and possibly the AP) when Trump was ahead. A few states were called before a single vote was counted.

Some states can be called right now for 2024, no problem and especially once they get the initial poll results as long as there isn't some mental voting pattern there are plenty of states you can just put in the blue or red category regardless.

Mr.Nice Guy

https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324131778295173120

He says that 2 points is a conservative estimate as well.

TomOnBoard

StringerBell wrote: »

Well....thats a separate issue but okay, I wouldn't be a huge fan of some of the LP guys either.

Okay, was just responding to a poster who was saying the trump campaign had no money left.

Hey Stringer... I'm just commenting, not criticising... ;-)

murpho999

TomOnBoard wrote: »

Yeah, Brett Baier and Martha Mc Callum have been steady. None of the Gutfield or Ingraham histrionics.

For me however, the John King/Wolf Blitzer twofer has been the most exciting and informative.. Jeez, King has some head for sums!!!

Yes I've been watching CNN most of the time.

King has been excellent. Even last night when numbers looked good for Trump and people here were calling the election done and claiming that betting exchanges are the best indicators for elections (:rolleyes:), he was saying it could all change and how the order of how votes are counted and the urban centres etc.

He 's been excellent and proven right today.

johnmcdnl

Biden needs 68.2% of the remaining vote in Georgia (97%) to pull ahead.
The last 2 counties left are De Kalb and Fulton.
In both counties he's above the 68.2% mark.

De Kalb
D Joe Biden 299,147 83.10%
R Donald Trump 56,800 15.80%
Reporting 94% in

Fulton
D Joe Biden 331,384 72.00%
R Donald Trump 123,332 26.80%
Reporting 96% in

StringerBell

I see Twitter has begun flagging some of trumps tweets where hes claiming victory and all the rest of his ****.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Faugheen wrote: »

Fox’s election coverage is excellent.

Their problem is the absolute shock jock goons they have posing as journalists on their schedule.

It's very stange. I tuned in earlier for about half an hour and heard one of those types comparing this election to having sex with the Christmas turkey. Very bizzare stuff.

Brian?

murpho999 wrote: »

Yes I've been watching CNN most of the time.

King has been excellent. Even last night when numbers looked good for Trump and people here were calling the election done and using claiming that betting exchanges are the best indicators for elections (:rolleyes:), he was saying it could all change and how the order of how votes are counted and the urban centres etc.

He 's been excellent and proven right today.

He Was a lot calmer than I was last night

prawnsambo

This is totally normal behaviour from a President of the US. Looks like someone took the phone off him before he could do a follow up. Or maybe we have to infer the rest.

Brian?

johnmcdnl wrote: »

Biden needs 68.2% of the remaining vote in Georgia (97%) to pull ahead.
The last 2 counties left are De Kalb and Fulton.
In both counties he's above the 68.2% mark.

De Kalb
D Joe Biden 299,147 83.10%
R Donald Trump 56,800 15.80%
Reporting 94% in

Fulton
D Joe Biden 331,384 72.00%
R Donald Trump 123,332 26.80%
Reporting 96% in

Òoooooooooooh

Mr.Nice Guy

https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/1324130334389186562

This would be so good.

errlloyd

johnmcdnl wrote: »

Biden needs 68.2% of the remaining vote in Georgia (97%) to pull ahead.
The last 2 counties left are De Kalb and Fulton.
In both counties he's above the 68.2% mark.

De Kalb
D Joe Biden 299,147 83.10%
R Donald Trump 56,800 15.80%
Reporting 94% in

Fulton
D Joe Biden 331,384 72.00%
R Donald Trump 123,332 26.80%
Reporting 96% in

According the NYT, there is only 94% counted (dunno what that is based on). If so there is 300k still outstanding. In that case Biden barely needs 60%. Its evens on PP right now, probably worth a punt.

StringerBell

murpho999 wrote: »

Yes I've been watching CNN most of the time.

King has been excellent. Even last night when numbers looked good for Trump and people here were calling the election done and using claiming that betting exchanges are the best indicators for elections (:rolleyes:), he was saying it could all change and how the order of how votes are counted and the urban centres etc.

He 's been excellent and proven right today.

Just to be that guy. Yeah it was tough going last night at times for the likes of King and myself to have to constantly remind people of the importance of the type of ballot and the county the ballot came from. To face down the constant histrionics :pac:

johnmcdnl

errlloyd wrote: »

According the NYT, there is only 94% counted (dunno what that is based on). If so there is 300k still outstanding. In that case Biden barely needs 60%. Its evens on PP right now, probably worth a punt.

Fox news has 97% as do Google so assume some new dáta is coming in.
Numbers taken from Fox for my calculations

Hurrache

StringerBell wrote: »

I see Twitter has begun flagging some of trumps tweets where hes claiming victory and all the rest of his ****.

They've been flagging his tweets for a long time when they've been lies or false.

Shelga

I keep being reminded of that scene near the end of Air Force One where Gary Oldman's character realises the passengers are all escaping via parachute and there's not a thing he can do about it and he's flipping out.

StringerBell

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/1324130334389186562

This would be so good.

To see the blue wall fully rebuilt would be some going from Biden in fairness to him.

Picked up what 350/400k votes today?

Still needs about 67/70%, to do it but he is running like a demon in PA so I wouldn't bet against it right now.

I have always been strong on his chances in Georgia, and getting PA, GA, AZ and holding NV would be incredible all things considered.

trump yet again out performing his numbers is a real headscratcher. They simply do not have a way to account for him in polling apparently!

Brian?

Hurrache wrote: »

They've been flagging his tweets for a long time when they've been lies or false.

I had a look at his Twitter feed. It's a disgrace.

Mellor

Harry Palmr wrote: »

It's bit early to ask, but what the heck - who'd be in line for the GOP in 2024?

If Biden wins. It could well be Donald Trump in 2024.