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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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ThewhiteJesus

America to remain great Go trump !

relax carry on

Christy42 wrote: »

This is it. The Dems have been talking about solutions to problems, the Reps seem to be only interested in seeing other people be sad.

Its just an indication that a large portion the US just don't want democracy. They may want the trappings. The Sideshow Bob quote about what America really want rings true "you secretly long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalise criminals and rule you like a king!" They want this.

eastie17

everlast75 wrote: »

Without going down a rabbithole, there needs to be an analysis of why people voted for him.

I suspect there are a multitude of reasons, but what is clear is his primary base are non-college educated white males.

It appears the educational system over there has failed to teach critical thinking. Fox, Twitter, Facebook create echo chambers and people need to form their own opinions.

It is a long road back, if they ever come back at all.

Primarily, social media imho. Social media and its influence on US life was the greatest Trojan Horse from the perspective of those wanted to see the end of the US as a global power, since well the original Trojan Horse.

[Deleted User]

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Has it been called yet ?

Edit: Milwaukee county still has mail in ballots to report.

Milwaukee 99% reported.

Itssoeasy

Deleted User wrote: »

Bunch of Wisconsin votes just added. Trump 51.1% - 47.4% Biden. 94% counted. It's over.

Has it been called yet ?

Edit: Milwaukee county still has mail in ballots to report.

BringBackMick

Trump tightening his grip

Looks increasingly likely Biden is toast

[Deleted User]

Bunch of Wisconsin votes just added. Trump 51.1% - 47.4% Biden. 94% counted. It's over.

Itssoeasy

Is there a reason why msnbc haven’t called Arizona for Biden when others have called it for Biden. Did the others go too early ?

Christy42

shocksy wrote: »

The betting is moving again in Trumps favour.

Trump will get over the line and watching the dems cry for the next 4 years will be a joy to watch.

This is it. The Dems have been talking about solutions to problems, the Reps seem to be only interested in seeing other people be sad.

Dillonb3

kilns wrote: »

The rest of the world can laugh from afar but America is really being shown up for its lack of educated people

I think Biden will still win but this shouldnt have been even close. The buck stops with the democratic party, they are a disaster

Regardless what way the election goes the Dems need to get rid of Pelosi and Schumer from the leadership both are awful

shocksy

The betting is moving again in Trumps favour.

Trump will get over the line and watching the dems cry for the next 4 years will be a joy to watch.

kilns

The rest of the world can laugh from afar but America is really being shown up for its lack of educated people

I think Biden will still win but this shouldnt have been even close. The buck stops with the democratic party, they are a disaster

Francie Barrett

Fcukin hell. Went to bed late last night thinking Trump had this in the bag, now while you'd still fancy Trump, it's not over yet. Looking at Wisconsin and Michigan, the gaps that Biden is facing are really, really big.

Solli

everlast75 wrote: »

Without going down a rabbithole, there needs to be an analysis of why people voted for him.

I suspect there are a multitude of reasons, but what is clear is his primary base are non-college educated white males.

It appears the educational system over there has failed to teach critical thinking. Fox, Twitter, Facebook create echo chambers and people need to form their own opinions.

It is a long road back, if they ever come back at all.

“The uneducated....I lovvvve the uneducated”
That statement of his stays with me forever. Explains everything.

Access to an equal level of education is as foundation of our democracy and we should cherish it. Never allow a two tier system like they did stateside, crowd management vs the well (privately) educated.

JMNolan

The biggest recruiter for Trump over the last 4 years are the people who cry "far-right racists!" whenever someone expresses concerns over that is happening in society unless it completely aligns with social media. I once asked something deemed unpopular on twitter and my employer was tagged and I was called a transphobe

Nody

This is taken on the status in the battlegrounds in terms of when we can expect results/things being called from 538; looks like we got a long day ahead of us f5ing for updates.

Here’s a look at what we know about the outstanding vote in each battleground state:

Arizona: While some outlets, such as the Associated Press, have projected Arizona for Biden, ABC News has not. Before the election, officials did warn that any super-close races might not be resolved until the last votes are counted on Thursday or Friday. However, the race isn’t that close right now (Biden 52 percent, Trump 47 percent), so we might see a projection sooner.

Wisconsin: 81 percent of the expected vote is already reporting here, and the rest should trickle in over the next few hours. Earlier tonight, Milwaukee County (expected to be among the last places to finish counting) said to expect semi-final results around 6 a.m. Eastern.

Georgia: The big holdup here is Fulton County, which as of 2 a.m. was home to most of the outstanding ballots. The count there was delayed by a burst pipe (no ballots were damaged), and election officials told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution their goal was to go into Wednesday with just 20,000 ballots left to count. However, the secretary of state estimated those results would not be released until the afternoon.

Michigan: There are still hundreds of thousands of absentee ballots to be counted here, and it’s unclear if counting will continue throughout the night. Election officials did say earlier on Tuesday that they expected counting to wrap up by Wednesday night.

Pennsylvania: Major counties such as Philadelphia and Allegheny have reported their last ballots of the night (although Philadelphia will continue to count around the clock). Going into the election, many county and state election officials predicted that results wouldn’t approach completion until Friday.

North Carolina: 95 percent of the expected vote has already been counted here, so it seems quite possible that all we’re waiting on are late-arriving mail-in ballots, which have until Nov. 12 to arrive. That means we could be waiting over a week for a call here.

Maine: Honestly, this is anyone’s guess. Election officials are taking much longer here than they originally expected.

drunkmonkey

harr wrote: »

Four more years of trump and then ivanka runs for office, he has already mentioned the idea so nothing would surprise me.

America loves a Dynasty, I think it'll be Don Jnr not ivanka.

gmisk

harr wrote: »

Four more years of trump and then ivanka runs for office, he has already mentioned the idea so nothing would surprise me.

I think donald trump jr is more likely tbh..

gmisk

Bonniedog wrote: »

It's not Trump who tried to fix the election, son.

How so?

I only saw one side trying to get hundreds of thousands of ballots thrown out.
One side had Louis Dejoy who pretty much did his best to slow down and dismantle the postal vote system.
One side which tried to purposefully limit access to polling stations. Especially in traditional democratic leaning areas, leading to people queueing for hours.

Nermal

everlast75 wrote: »

I suspect there are a multitude of reasons, but what is clear is his primary base are non-college educated white males.

It appears the educational system over there has failed to teach critical thinking. Fox, Twitter, Facebook create echo chambers and people need to form their own opinions.

They did form their own opinions, they were just different to yours.

Third level education, particularly in the humanities, is an echo chamber far more powerful than Twitter and Facebook.

harr

Four more years of trump and then ivanka runs for office, he has already mentioned the idea so nothing would surprise me.

Chips Lovell

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Chips Lovell wrote: »

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elefant wrote: »

And you'd have to think if it wasn't for a global pandemic he'd be home and hosed already.

Really early on the Exit Poll from CNN had the economy far above coronavirus in people's preferences for what matters most.

I'd have expected that from a Fox or conservative exit poll but when CNN said that was the split I was surprised. They also had 'has the pandemic been handled well?' as a 50-50 between yes and no.

It's the economy stupid

extra gravy

John must be gone for a nap, this new guy isn't a patch on him.

crushproof

everlast75 wrote: »

Without going down a rabbithole, there needs to be an analysis of why people voted for him.

I suspect there are a multitude of reasons, but what is clear is his primary base are non-college educated white males.

It appears the educational system over there has failed to teach critical thinking. Fox, Twitter, Facebook create echo chambers and people need to form their own opinions.

It is a long road back, if they ever come back at all.

100%, I think there's no u turn on the road unfortunately. The mind set isn't going to change.
It's the same on the opposite side, my own echo chamber indicated Biden would win by a significant margin. Very difficult to find a middle ground media wise or social media wise these days.

ExMachina1000

everlast75 wrote: »

Without going down a rabbithole, there needs to be an analysis of why people voted for him.

I suspect there are a multitude of reasons, but what is clear is his primary base are non-college educated white males.

It appears the educational system over there has failed to teach critical thinking. Fox, Twitter, Facebook create echo chambers and people need to form their own opinions.

It is a long road back, if they ever come back at all.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/03/907433511/trumps-base-is-shrinking-as-whites-without-a-college-degree-continue-to-decline?t=1604480026480

That base you talk about is shrinking year on year yet he won more votes than in 2016 so it must be something else I would imagine

elefant

retalivity wrote: »

Trump has now received more raw votes than he did in 2016, after a 4 year dumpster fire.
The mind boggles.

And you'd have to think if it wasn't for a global pandemic he'd be home and hosed already.

ExMachina1000

retalivity wrote: »

Trump has now received more raw votes than he did in 2016, after a 4 year dumpster fire.
The mind boggles.

When he talked about the American economy and the low unemployment rates Americans listened while the media focused on how he drinks a bottle of water or his spray tan

everlast75

Without going down a rabbithole, there needs to be an analysis of why people voted for him.

I suspect there are a multitude of reasons, but what is clear is his primary base are non-college educated white males.

It appears the educational system over there has failed to teach critical thinking. Fox, Twitter, Facebook create echo chambers and people need to form their own opinions.

It is a long road back, if they ever come back at all.

retalivity

Trump has now received more raw votes than he did in 2016, after a 4 year dumpster fire.
The mind boggles.