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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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rosser44

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

The president about to declare victory.

Beautiful morning out there.

The president doesn't declare victory, the american voters decide that. All votes have not been counted so the result is not known yet.

Stacksofwacks

If Trump had honest people around him they'd be telling him the show's over

generalgerry

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

No you are not. Biden put out a statement asking people to "keep the faith". That's as good as admitting defeat.

I heard that full speech and I heard him say the words "keep the faith", but the speech overall sounded like he genuinely thought he was going to win. I do agree though, when you see the words "keep the faith" on paper, it reminds me of what Joe Duffy usually says to somebody in a desperate position.

Quantum Erasure

12gauge dave wrote: »

Am I wrong to think that trump has this?

No, no more wrong than right

Itssoeasy

Faugheen wrote: »

There’s over 450k to be counted, with a lot of those in Atlanta + suburbs.

Georgia is absolutely not over...yet.

But did they say why those Atlanta suburb haven’t been counted ? If I’ve missed it then I apologise but msnbc haven’t said a reason that I’ve heard which is why I’m asking.

Brussels Sprout

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

The president about to declare victory.

Beautiful morning out there.

He can declare all he wants. It's not in his gift to award himself the election. Election counting is each state's responsibility.

This is likely going to be all about projection.

Quantum Erasure

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

If Trump had honest people around him they'd be telling him the show's over

If Trump had honest people around him, he'd never have run for a second term

Itssoeasy

A GOP Congressman has tweeted at the president to stop, and that the votes will be counted and he’ll either win or lose.

rosser44

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

If Trump had honest people around him, he'd never have run for a second term

He would never have won the primary if the GOP did any due diligence in opposition research.

But the Russians had them all compromised with dodgy campaign donations going back decades and they had to toe the line or get outed as taking money from russia.

Itssoeasy

rosser44 wrote: »

He would never have won the primary if the GOP did any due diligence in opposition research.

But the Russians had them all compromised with dodgy campaign donations going back decades and they had to toe the line or get outed as taking money from russia.

Five years on it’s pointless saying what should have been done or happened.

themink

Itssoeasy wrote: »

But did they say why those Atlanta suburb haven’t been counted ? If I’ve missed it then I apologise but msnbc haven’t said a reason that I’ve heard which is why I’m asking.

I believe they said there was a burst water pipe in one lication and they sent officials home for the night! Not fully clear where in Georgia it was though..

12gauge dave

This election is over he has done it again.

Itssoeasy

themink wrote: »

I believe they said there was a burst water pipe in one lication and they sent officials home for the night! Not fully clear where in Georgia it was though..

A burst pipe ? Well that’s very 2020.

Let’s be honest even if Biden wins this it’s clear that what Americans think their country is and what they believe are the winning issues aren’t as winning as they think. I say that from looking at the Congress results and the dems have won back the house with seats still left to fill but the senate is not a done deal at all. So, the complacency charge at the democratic isn’t a fair one this time out but I think the intransigence in american politics from both sides is still there.

[Deleted User]

rosser44 wrote: »

He would never have won the primary if the GOP did any due diligence in opposition research.

But the Russians had them all compromised with dodgy campaign donations going back decades and they had to toe the line or get outed as taking money from russia.

He won the primary because the Democrats made it all about him. Nonstop coverage. It's in the leaked documents that they'd make a "Pied Piper' candidate win the primary so the main election would be a breeze. Pity they created a monster they couldn't beat.

[Deleted User]

Uh-oh. Wisconsin 90% reporting and Trump is up 51-47.

Itssoeasy

12gauge dave wrote: »

This election is over he has done it again.

It isn’t and he hasn’t. He may but it’s not over yet.

Itssoeasy

Deleted User wrote: »

Uh-oh. Wisconsin 90% reporting and Trump is up 51-47.

Well in 2000 the networks gave Florida to bush with 99.7 % in and then pulled it back. 10 % is a lot left.

murphyebass

Biden fans clutching to the idea that he might still win this.

Cmon people it’s over. Trump has done it again and you know it.

Kiith

Trump saying he's going to the Supreme Court to get voting stopped.

Nody

I find it amusing how all the trump supporters here keep calling the election over refusing to let the vote counting finish and I'm sure the same posters will howl and cry foul when it turns out Trump lost claiming it's wrong to count the mail in votes etc.

[Deleted User]

Stop counting, i'm ahead at the moment. Plotting the end of democracy

Faugheen

murphyebass wrote: »

Biden fans clutching to the idea that he might still win this.

Cmon people it’s over. Trump has done it again and you know it.

If it’s so ‘over’ why is he running to the Supreme Court to stop votes from being counted?

BobbyMalone

Nody wrote: »

I find it amusing how all the trump supporters here keep calling the election over refusing to let the vote counting finish and I'm sure the same posters will howl and cry foul when it turns out Trump lost claiming it's wrong to count the mail in votes etc.

There does seem to be a significant amount of mail-in votes from Pennsylvania left to be counted (200k?), and Atlanta and Milwaukee a ways off from declaring. I'm not sure, but I think Georgia could fit into this category too.

MikeSoys

So in layman's terms.. I know its not over but as GOP control supreme court has Trump won(as its so close and challenge to courts will be in trumps favour(
) ?

Psychiatric Patrick

Lumen wrote: »

I don't like having the nuclear football in the hands of a petulant man-baby with the sole authority to use it pre-emptively.

At what point since Trump took office there been a danger of Trump launching nuclear missiles?

You seriously think Trump can do that on a whim?

And he doesn’t keep it under his bed. It is in the hands of a military officer.

Also the Football is, as I understand it, simply a mobile version of the several was l fixed “command centres”. If Trump is in the White House he doesn’t use that to launch missiles. Open to correction on this.

atr2002

MikeSoys wrote: »

So in layman's terms.. I know its not over but as GOP control supreme court has Trump won(as its so close and challenge to courts will be in trumps favour(
) ?

The sc don't always vote by party affiliation

VinLieger

Looking like republicans will keep the senate unfortunately

MikeSoys

Psychiatric Patrick wrote: »

At what since Trump took office there been a danger of Trump launching nuclear missiles?

You seriously think Trump can do that on a whim?

And he doesn’t keep it under his bed. It is in the hands of a military officer.

Also the Football is, as I understand it, simply a mobile version of the several was l fixed “command centres”. If Trump is in the White House he doesn’t use that to launch missiles. Open to correction on this.

4 yrs ago I recall Des saying about letting trump access to nukes, nothing happened. Trump can't just launch nukes it's more complicated then that

Itssoeasy

And an interesting point is that three justices of the Supreme Court including the newest member and the current Chief Justice were involved in 2000 and advocated for all votes to be counted in bush’s favour.

Psychiatric Patrick

Kiith wrote: »

Trump saying he's going to the Supreme Court to get voting stopped.

Well better than his earlier “violence in the streets” attitude