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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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Manic Moran

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Most of the regular posters on the Trump thread and the Election thread have TDS.
They literally drove anyone who disagreed with them away from that thread, anyone who gave Trump any bit of credit was savaged as a Trump supporter.

Yep, exactly why I no longer post on that thread. An utter refusal to accept that there can be a difference between approving of the man and approving of certain policies or positions. I would refer to that Jonathan Pie video I linked to yesterday. Or the one from four years ago after the election.

The irony is I voted Biden today (I did say it was a crappy selection of candidates). Not that I'd be believed on the Presidency thread. They probably think I went tooled up with a rifle on my back to vote Republican down the line despite how often I have explicitly stated I never voted for Trump in the first place.

signostic

Real Donald Trump wrote: »

I think we will be alright, but we need innovation in our country and not relying on the yanks all the time...

If you think of the smaller Irish towns that have US plants & industry, it would be devastating for those towns to lose them.

Larbre34

PA won't be needed here. Its WI, MN, AZ and Nebraska 2 for 270.

Bish bash bosh, Biden is 46.

Blanco100

shocksy wrote: »

Trump 1/5
Biden 13/5

Easy money for all the Biden supporters on here who still thinks he has it in the bag. I wouldn't be betting on him at this stage.

cheers for this. lumped €100 on Biden at 4/1 in last hour.

Back into 2/1 again now.

J2CVC

signostic wrote: »

My main worry with Trump in for the next 4 years would be US companies pulling out of Ireland...we need them now more than ever..

Trump getting in could have a massive effect on us through Brexit. Boris has been waiting for this election. If his pal Trump gets in he might say screw Europe.

Real Donald Trump

MurDawg wrote: »

Huge money after being dumped on biden over last 20 minutes

Take from it what you will

This is going down to the wire, but it just shows how inaccurate polls really are.. They had Biden winning by a landslide

gar32

https://results.decisiondeskhq.com/

kowloon

J2CVC wrote: »

It's bizarre. The world is literally going to be a worse place. They'll probably vote for his son next time around.

More likely his daughter, Don doesn't respect Don Jr.

440Hertz

MOR316 wrote: »

No vaseline?

They won’t be able to import that easily, so it’ll be good old fashioned chip pan grease.

letowski

What's going on in Virginia?

gar32

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The Iron Giant

J2CVC wrote: »

Trump getting in could have a massive effect on us through Brexit. Boris has been waiting for this election. If his pal Trump gets in he might say screw Europe.

Depends on how the House and Senate are as well though.

Larbre34

signostic wrote: »

Trump will offer them more to return to the US.

Their owners, mainly open market liberals, and have no desire to base in Trump's America.

MOR316

sheeplover55 wrote: »

People see through it. Chinese currency is tanking

Yes but, we're the minority.

Using him as an example because he's close to home but Bono, for years, has said this and, dare I say it, preached about it inequality, homophobia, more rights for women, racism etc. Preached about it since the 80s.

People just tell him to shut up and moan about him. It's another example of ignorance.

I wish I wasn't posting this type of stuff, 7 weeks off 2021 but, here we are.

Depressing

Midlife

Manic Moran wrote: »

Yep, exactly why I no longer post on that thread. An utter refusal to accept that there can be a difference between approving of the man and approving of certain policies or positions. I would refer to that Jonathan Pie video I linked to yesterday. Or the one from four years ago after the election.

The irony is I voted Biden today (I did say it was a crappy selection of candidates). Not that I'd be believed on the Presidency thread. They probably think I went tooled up with a rifle on my back to vote Republican down the line despite how often I have explicitly stated I never voted for Trump in the first place.

Fair play. I don't post thee much myself but noted your absence.

You have some ideas I disagree with but are a very measured human and always very respectful in your tone.

More of that needed in the world.

[Deleted User]

breezy1985 wrote: »

Having not a single flip so far has really made this kinda boring

AZ looks likely now.

Some serious profit made in gambling tonight one way or the other. Biden went out to 7/2 at one point.

Real Donald Trump

signostic wrote: »

If you think of the smaller Irish towns that have US plants & industry, it would be devastating for those towns to lose them.

Even if the Don gets in, honestly i don't think he'll pull companies out off Ireland, he hasn't so far.. He's taking more of a swipe at China, Mexico and Canada, which is good news for us :pac: plus Mike has big Irish connections :cool:

[Deleted User]

MurDawg wrote: »

Huge money after being dumped on biden over last 20 minutes

Take from it what you will

Profit taking by people who were on Trump I would imagine.

J2CVC

Work in a few hours won't be fun.

I need answers here America!!

murpho999

signostic wrote: »

My main worry with Trump in for the next 4 years would be US companies pulling out of Ireland...we need them now more than ever..

Won't happen.

He said he'd do that in first term an it never happened. Same as his wall.

No way companies will just up sticks and leave.

Approved User Assesment

Democracy has prevailed once again it seems. (Trump will win).

Saying that, the lawyer folks will be creaming it for a the next couple of weeks trying to salvage what they have.

Manic Moran

letowski wrote: »

What's going on in Virginia?

Most likely going to Biden. A lot of reporting yet to come in from Fairfax county, up in the DC area. Not as strong a win as I would have thought, though.

newuser99999

letowski wrote: »

What's going on in Virginia?

They don’t start counting their votes until 11pm their time or something I thought I heard.

TP_CM

Maybe not the thread for this. But I must say, I wouldn't be surprised if Ireland voted in the same way. It's not a vote for Trump per se, more a vote against a political system which does feck all year after year. People like more radical behaviour these days and Trump sells that. If a party came along that kicked aside the status quo I think they would gain a lot of ground (and the media would crack down on them too). Peter Casey is Exhibite A. But he didn't have Trump's thick skin.

BonnieSituation

Deleted User wrote: »

AZ looks likely now.

Some serious profit made in gambling tonight one way or the other. Biden went out to 7/2 at one point.

A bright spark.

Still no surprises. That's important.

letowski

Manic Moran wrote: »

Most likely going to Biden. A lot of reporting yet to come in from Fairfax county, up in the DC area. Not as strong a win as I would have thought, though.

I was looking at Pennsylvania, there is still 2.2m mail ballots to be counted in PA.

There is still a long way left in this election.

I want to see what they are counting in WI and MI, whether is EVAB or election day voting.

440Hertz

Larbre34 wrote: »

Their owners, mainly open market liberals, and have no desire to base in Trump's America.

They’re often quite genuinely multinational too, both in terms of shareholding, and tend to have either big operations in the EU and elsewhere that were either grown or acquired.

Also most of these companies have the majority of their market outside the US. In many ways Trump, like a lot of Americans imagines the world as “the US domestic market” and “overseas” in a sort of 1950s view of the world. In reality the US is one of 3 or 4 big markets.

Those companies aren’t likely to be commanded by a populist property developer in just one of their markets. He has a tendency to behave like he’s CEO of America Inc and can command companies to do his bidding. The world doesn’t work like that and he’s already hit a brick wall with a lot of corporate America in that regard.

BonnieSituation

Approved User Assesment wrote: »

Democracy has prevailed once again it seems. (Trump will win).

Saying that, the lawyer folks will be creaming it for a the next couple of weeks trying to salvage what they have.

So you're saying that Biden winning is not democratic?

Tell us why you think that?

@Widye, this is what I was exasperated at.

rosser44

Manic Moran wrote: »

They probably think I went tooled up with a rifle on my back to vote Republican down the line despite how often I have explicitly stated I never voted for Trump in the first place.

I've had a go at you once or twice in trump biden threads here manic, but never because of the reason quoted above.

I never thought you were a coal rolling 4x4 trumpist.

The reason I've debated with you and other middle of the road US political commentators is that regardless of economic policies, I cannot understand how someone with such a total lack of any kind of human empathy can get to the office of president. Despite thinking that he can put maybe 1 or 2k more in their pocket, how can they vote for such a charlatan? He is so transparently a con artist?!?

Also, he rustbelt GOP voters and poor "white trash" voting for trump and going on about how "the stock market is rising" while living paycheck to paycheck are turkeys voting for christmas - they are the next demographic for the private prisons to decimate now that meth and opiods are wrecking poor white regions.

J2CVC

Madison Cawthorn, the 25-year old inspirational speaker who addressed the Republican convention this summer, is projected to win the North Carolina seat vacated by top Trump aide Mark Meadows, according to the AP.

Cawthorn, who is seen as a rising star within the party, found himself in hot water earlier this summer after pictures emerged of his 2017 trip to a home used by Adolf Hitler. He referred to the Nazi leader on Instagram as "the Fuhrer" (he also described him as "supreme evil") and said the vacation was on his "bucket list".

Fabulous.