fliball123 wrote: » Yeah and then watch all the MNCs re-evaluate where they decide to set up their Euro head quarters. Remember the MNCs also pay tax for each employee they hire not to mention the employee paying tax as well. If Sinn Fein start fecking around in that are it may well spell the end of Ireland. You only have to look at the differential between our GDP and our GNP to see how much money they bring in.
Ireland received more FDI than any other country in first half of 2020
Tea drinker wrote: » True.... it's going to be a delicate balancing act going forward...https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/1030/1174965-fdi-oecd-ireland/
cnocbui wrote: » Wouldn't the activities of Reits purchasing properties and debt count towards FDI?
PropQueries wrote: » "But ultimately I think a lot of campus buildings are destined to become data centres." Link to Irish Times article here: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/college-september-2021-what-will-student-life-be-like-1.4389591
PommieBast wrote: » Probably more for the thread on the college degree bubble bursting. If such a shift towards virtual universities was to have a significant effect on the real-estate institutions have, then there will also be questions on whether the students actually need to be in the same country.
JimmyVik wrote: » Once covid is over I think we will all be surprised how quickly its forgotten and everything goes back to the way it was before. People will be working in offices, people will want to be living in the cities. People will be buying houses.
PropQueries wrote: » I'm not so sure. Three days ago: "Tánaiste's department says remote working for its civil servants will be permanent feature in future" Link to article here: https://www.thejournal.ie/home-working-department-business-5249257-Oct2020/
PropQueries wrote: » Interesting article in the Irish Times today titled: 'College September 2021: What will student life be like?' One expert's conclusion is the following: "But ultimately I think a lot of campus buildings are destined to become data centres." Link to Irish Times article here: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/college-september-2021-what-will-student-life-be-like-1.4389591
JimmyVik wrote: » One word. Decentralization. Believe it when you see it.
Hubertj wrote: » That’s a very stupid comment to make. Whatever the future of universities may or may not look like only an idiot could think data centres would be suitable locations for universities. Hardly surprising an idiotic comment was quoted.
PropQueries wrote: » Well our universities can't be the only ones in the world to disregard online learning with maybe only one or two days on campus if the rest of the worlds universities go down that route. If the students are only on campus one or two days a week, they'll just buy a car for the commute for those couple of days a week instead of spending €200 per week on a room they won't be using for the most part.
Knex* wrote: » The college experience is not one that can be totally distilled down to just lectures & education. I went into college every single day, and I'd say I attended about 1 in 3 lectures, at best. So much of it is social development, environmental, and ultimately about exposure to people and things that you cannot replicate digitally. It's a critical stage in many young people's personal development, and for many, a decision on what college they attend is as much about the perceived social benefits as it is education. Similar logic as to why I don't particularly envisage the death of cities. People weren't moving to cities just for the jobs. There's a whole bunch of incentives, social and otherwise, that the work from home movement will not be able to address. No doubt it'll have an impact, but the experience factors will still be relevant and will still have pull once we begin to put restrictions behind us.
Hubertj wrote: » Yes commuting from Kerry to Dublin a few times a week is practical.
PropQueries wrote: » It's a two hour drive from Limerick City to Dublin off-peak. The motorway network is very good now. It's not like back in the 80's when it took 4-5 hours to do the same drive.
Hubertj wrote: » And that has what to do with Kerry? Do you now choose where to go to university based on where you live? As for your comment about the first 3 months of college you are clueless. More idiotic by the day.
PropQueries wrote: » Apologies. c. three hour drive from the middle of Kerry to Dublin off peak. A two hour drive from Galway to Dublin and a two hour drive from Limerick to Dublin. Not much more from Cork. That basically means most rural Ireland students attending a university in Dublin would be at most a 2 hour drive away. If they're in one or two days a week, I think many will make that 'commuting sacrifice' to save c. €200 a week on rent excl. ESB bills, heating, food, cleaning, socialising costs, luas/bus/dart card etc. etc. etc. Just to add. Do you not think the parents will have a say in their choice on whether to commute or not? If the parents can save at least €5,000 a year, they will most likely tell them to take the family car for the day and they'll rent an apartment for them in the closet town instead of forking out c. €12,000 per year. "Cost of going to college in Dublin? €12,495 a year with rent. DIT guide says staying at home is more than €5,000 cheaper than living in rented housing" Irish Times article here: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/cost-of-going-to-college-in-dublin-12-495-a-year-with-rent-1.3139428?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Feducation%2Fcost-of-going-to-college-in-dublin-12-495-a-year-with-rent-1.3139428 I think the parents, especially if they have two or three heading off to college will most likely make the decision for them.
Timing belt wrote: » You seem to forget that there are colleges outside Dublin. The other thing is that if you travel in peak traffic you can add 2-3 hours on a round trip.
PropQueries wrote: » Good point. Unlike in the 1980s and 1990s, most rural Ireland students are probably at most an hours drive away from their nearest university. This pandemic has (like the WFH made companies realise their employees can indeed work full-time from home) pushed many students and parents into realising that they don't have to pay high rents in any of our cities in order for their children to attend one of the major universities in Ireland. Even if universities forced all students back full time, I think the maximum one hour drive over and back from University will remain a major and realistic option going forward. In relation to peak-time commuting, just like when WFH and more flexible working is implemented post-covid, most employers and colleges aren't going to set their start/finish times around the busy commuting hours.
Timing belt wrote: » There will always be peak traffic and even if you were renting in a city it will take an hour to get to college unless you are living next door. It does seem that you are beginning to grasp at straws now to find a reason for house prices to drop. I’m not saying they won’t but if they do it will be down to unemployment or reduced pay simple as.
Hubertj wrote: » Did you read the article? Finances are the only consideration in relation to attending college / university? What is the annual cost of running a car? Is it feasible for students to commute a few times a week from kerry to dublin? I give up. Think what you like.
