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The Stand With Eamon Dunphy

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Haven't listened to much of this so far, but really enjoyed the interview with Damien Duff this week.

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Deleted User wrote: »

I know people here aren't his biggest fan but Tomas Ryan continues to be the commentator that makes the most sense to me. I wish we could follow a bolder strategy like many other countries did such as Australia. Instead we're going to be in perpetual rolling lockdowns for the next year at least.

he's an insufferable absolute gee bag.

Banana Republic 1

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's equally simple, a whole island policy would not be impossible. It was done for Foot-and-mouth disease, although obviously a very different situation. There are plenty of institutions that operate within Ireland as a whole. Policing 500km land border is not feasible of course. You could convince them with the clear benefits of suppressing the virus, to the degree that other successful countries have. The entire hospitality industry would be saved overnight. There would a huge drop in PUP payments. Convince them that its a temporary measure that will definitely be rolled back once this is all over. Not even attempting this is utterly infuriating given we're only two nations on an Island. Other countries would be hopping at the opportunity. But apparently coming in and out of lockdowns for the next year or so is a better option.

There’s no point getting angry about this on here as the gov are not going to change their tune now.

Banana Republic 1

Nothing about Robert Fisk but there is time to talk ****e with Giles.

Klonker

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's equally simple, a whole island policy would not be impossible. It was done for Foot-and-mouth disease, although obviously a very different situation. There are plenty of institutions that operate within Ireland as a whole. Policing 500km land border is not feasible of course. You could convince them with the clear benefits of suppressing the virus, to the degree that other successful countries have. The entire hospitality industry would be saved overnight. There would a huge drop in PUP payments. Convince them that its a temporary measure that will definitely be rolled back once this is all over. Not even attempting this is utterly infuriating given we're only two nations on an Island. Other countries would be hopping at the opportunity. But apparently coming in and out of lockdowns for the next year or so is a better option.

Good luck trying to convince the DUP of that. I cannot see anyway in which they'll have restrictions with the rest of the UK which is in simple terms what is needed for 'Zero Covid' here.

[Deleted User]

It's equally simple, a whole island policy would not be impossible. It was done for Foot-and-mouth disease, although obviously a very different situation. There are plenty of institutions that operate within Ireland as a whole. Policing 500km land border is not feasible of course. You could convince them with the clear benefits of suppressing the virus, to the degree that other successful countries have. The entire hospitality industry would be saved overnight. There would a huge drop in PUP payments. Convince them that its a temporary measure that will definitely be rolled back once this is all over. Not even attempting this is utterly infuriating given we're only two nations on an Island. Other countries would be hopping at the opportunity. But apparently coming in and out of lockdowns for the next year or so is a better option.

Klonker

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm not sure I want to get into all this again but...

How do you know we would never be able to? It would certainly be very difficult but all I hear is excuses. He went into detail regarding the situation with NI on the latest podcast. My day-to-day has nothing to do with borders or how the EU operates so maybe I am ignorant to how it's literally impossible.

It's simple. We have a land border with the UK that is not policed in any way and impossible to do so as it is approx 500km in length as well as the sensitivities of the Good Friday Agreement. Thousands also cross this border every day for essential work, deliveries etc. So the only way to go for 'Zero Covid' would be to get Northern Ireland to join us in doing so. That's never going to happen with the DUP in the North, they wouldn't even extend their 'Lockdown Lite' past the 4 weeks mark. How could you try convince them to have a border check with the rest of the UK and join with us?

Unless Ryan and Co. come up with some workable answer to the above which they never have they should stop going in about 'Zero Covid' here imo.

Deeper Blue

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm not sure I want to get into all this again but...

How do you know we would never be able to? It would certainly be very difficult but all I hear is excuses. He went into detail regarding the situation with NI on the latest podcast. My day-to-day has nothing to do with borders or how the EU operates so maybe I am ignorant to how it's literally impossible.

To be honest I have no expertise whatsoever, I presume it's possible in theory but I can't see our government ever attempting it. Even if they tried I assume they'd mess it up somehow. Definitely an interesting topic though.

Bit of a can of worms to open here I suppose :pac:

[Deleted User]

El Sueño wrote: »

I'd absolutely love to shut the borders too.

It's just that I know we'll never be able to.

That's what annoys me about Ryan, he knows this aswell yet continues to beat the same drum every week.

I'm not sure I want to get into all this again but...

How do you know we would never be able to? It would certainly be very difficult but all I hear is excuses. He went into detail regarding the situation with NI on the latest podcast. My day-to-day has nothing to do with borders or how the EU operates so maybe I am ignorant to how it's literally impossible.

Deeper Blue

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I know people here aren't his biggest fan but Tomas Ryan continues to be the commentator that makes the most sense to me. I wish we could follow a bolder strategy like many other countries did such as Australia. Instead we're going to be in perpetual rolling lockdowns for the next year at least.

I'd absolutely love to shut the borders too.

It's just that I know we'll never be able to.

That's what annoys me about Ryan, he knows this aswell yet continues to beat the same drum every week.

hermano

For once Dunphy didn't blame the young people. He seems so disgusted that people wanted to celebrate Christmas. I swear he wants us to lockdown for forever

Beechwoodspark

jaykay74 wrote: »

I often give out about Giles and Dunphy but I thought the pod about Nobby Stiles was very nicely put together. Mixture of old memories together, world cup 66, how they were treated and the tough impact of dementia. Emotional stuff really and they held it together well given how close Giles and Stiles were (Stiles married to his sister).

Yep it was a nice tribute to stiles in fairness

elefant

Deleted User wrote: »

I know people here aren't his biggest fan but Tomas Ryan continues to be the commentator that makes the most sense to me. I wish we could follow a bolder strategy like many other countries did such as Australia. Instead we're going to be in perpetual rolling lockdowns for the next year at least.

Yes. Even if you don't agree with him on the best strategy he's very informative on laying out the status quo without purposelessly pointing fingers, and his predictions on the trajectory of numbers seem pretty bang on.

[Deleted User]

I know people here aren't his biggest fan but Tomas Ryan continues to be the commentator that makes the most sense to me. I wish we could follow a bolder strategy like many other countries did such as Australia. Instead we're going to be in perpetual rolling lockdowns for the next year at least.

jaykay74

I often give out about Giles and Dunphy but I thought the pod about Nobby Stiles was very nicely put together. Mixture of old memories together, world cup 66, how they were treated and the tough impact of dementia. Emotional stuff really and they held it together well given how close Giles and Stiles were (Stiles married to his sister).

Banana Republic 1

generalgerry wrote: »

I also think he is conflicted by having Tesco as a sponsor. I'd doubt that Tesco would indulge Eamonn having some like Marcus De Bruin giving a contrary opinion on the COVID situation. It wouldn't make sense for them to have Eamonn read out a message asking customers to leave the Tesco deliveries to the older people, and then he has a guest on questioning the whole COVID situation.

You can have an independent podcast, or you can have a sponsored podcast, but you can't have both. And Eamonn has always known which side his bread is buttered on.

The fact that you know its Tesco sponsoring is the reason why they sponsor it.
Who listens to Dunphy? that's who Tesco want to target

dulpit

applehunter wrote: »

Niall Stanage wrong again.

At least he’s consistent.

How was he wrong? He has consistently said that Biden was favoured, but it would be very close. He also said that the likelihood was that Trump would lead on election night and then the postal votes would start to come in, which is exactly what has happened.

applehunter

Niall Stanage wrong again.

At least he’s consistent.

dr.kenneth noisewater

bocaman wrote:

I'd take most of what Bryan MacDonald says with a pinch of salt. He's not going to be overly critical of Putin and the Russian government. you dont bite the hand that feeds you.

In fairness he prefaced a lot of what he said as what Russian's were thinking or saying rather than his own opinion.

Thought it was interesting that Russia would rather see Trump gone as they cant get any deals done.

bocaman

I'd take most of what Bryan MacDonald says with a pinch of salt. He's not going to be overly critical of Putin and the Russian government. you dont bite the hand that feeds you.

Banana Republic 1

Did you smash it wrote: »

He was onto talk about kushner peace plan offer to Palestine. When was that? Fisk was criticizing the plan.

To me that sounded like a new interview had been spliced with an old one but I’m not sure

Did you smash it

He was onto talk about kushner peace plan offer to Palestine. When was that? Fisk was criticizing the plan.

Arthur Daley

Tork wrote: »

2nd July is the last one my podcast app could find. The year is flying. RIP Robert indeed.

I think that might have been a repeat, during the holidays. Don't think I've heard Robert Fisk on for a while.

Tork

jaykay74 wrote: »

I have a feeling Dunphy had Fisk on relatively recently. RIP Robert.

2nd July is the last one my podcast app could find. The year is flying. RIP Robert indeed.

Chalk McHugh

jaykay74 wrote: »

I have a feeling Dunphy had Fisk on relatively recently. RIP Robert.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1322996570313416704?s=20

Sad news. I used like listening to him on Newstalk. RIP.

jaykay74

I have a feeling Dunphy had Fisk on relatively recently. RIP Robert.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1322996570313416704?s=20

Banana Republic 1

Still Ill wrote: »

Yeah, they had their 5 minute Pogfest in the latest one too.. Actually kinda hoping Pogba somehow turns into a world beater now just for how funny it'd be to listen to them. These were the lads who repeatedly rubbished Ronaldo to the point of farce.

Pogba is a world beater, a world beating spoofer that is !

Still Ill

Redordeadqwwer wrote: »

I think it's a really good podcast. Tend to skip over a bit of the soccer stuff as he usually brings on Giles and they relate everything to their playing days which is tedious but can be funny sometimes. They usually harp on about Pogba for a good 5 mins every time too.

Yeah, they had their 5 minute Pogfest in the latest one too.. Actually kinda hoping Pogba somehow turns into a world beater now just for how funny it'd be to listen to them. These were the lads who repeatedly rubbished Ronaldo to the point of farce.

Leftwaffe

Still Ill wrote: »

Listened to the Russia Today guy just now. Thought he was pretty interesting. Not nearly as biased as Crotty was. Would like to hear more of him.

Eamon is really churning out the pods. Admirable work ethic at his age. There's a decent few I skip, but overall it's a great podcast. He covers a broad range of subjects.

I think it's a really good podcast. Tend to skip over a bit of the soccer stuff as he usually brings on Giles and they relate everything to their playing days which is tedious but can be funny sometimes. They usually harp on about Pogba for a good 5 mins every time too.

Still Ill

Listened to the Russia Today guy just now. Thought he was pretty interesting. Not nearly as biased as Crotty was. Would like to hear more of him.

Eamon is really churning out the pods. Admirable work ethic at his age. There's a decent few I skip, but overall it's a great podcast. He covers a broad range of subjects.

[Deleted User]

Higgins5473 wrote: »

Even an old pro has the odd slip up.

That's showbiz baby.