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Would you like to see cigarettes slowly banned?

Eleven Benevolent Elephants

My proposition would be that cigarettes cannot be sold to anyone born on or after the 1st of January 2003, ie, the next batch of people who will turn 18. Provision of identification will be mandatory for all sales, even if the person appears to be 100 years old in order to remove discretion and ambiguity.

Cigarettes will only be available during set hours like alcohol.

Of course, you'll have black market sales, these can be rooted out by undercover Gardaí posing as potential customers. If caught, you get a mandatory 6 month sentence.

Supplying tobacco to people born after 2003 will be similarly punished. Gradually, as the years go by, less and less people will be alive who will have been born before 2003. Within a few generations we will be tobacco free.

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Lundstram

Feck off!

dxhound2005

Ban matches. Three strikes and you're out.

corner of hells

I smoke about 4 cigarettes a year , you can stick your ban up your hole.

bassy

time for bed bud.

uch

You know, when I see an anti smokin ad, it actually makes me want to have a smoke

[Deleted User]

Prohibition doesn't work. We need to legalise and tax all drugs. Use that money to support hospitals rather than support criminal gangs.

Idbatterim

Ban them on premises of pubs and clubs for a start ... break the link with social smoking...

John Frank Wilson

Ex-smoker here, will NEVER smoke again.

However... f*** off.

Kindly

.anon.

Make them available via prescription only in the lead-up to an eventual ban.

Kermit.de.frog

Every smoker thinking - should the OP be slowly banned?

Jimson

Do you really want to smoke cigarettes that someone shat out or stored up their anus?

uch

Jimson wrote: »

Do you really want to smoke cigarettes that someone shat out or stored up their anus?

yep, and a bit of cheesecake would be lovely

[Deleted User]

Why ban them?

The number of smokers has been steadily decreasing for a long time among all age groups, most notably among teenagers.

440Hertz

I think they’re sort of fading out of cool anyway. I don’t seem to know anyone who smokes anymore and I’m always a bit stunk out of it when I got to places like France where it’s still way more common.

It really smells bad when you stop being used to the odour.

Car99

If someone wants to smoke let them smoke .they're adults and they cant say they're not aware of the risks.

TheValeyard

Isnt that what Russia has done?

cnocbui

No. The older I get , the more I am inclined to a libertarian view. Let adults do whatever they want if it doesn't harm others. I want less of governements and other people telling other people what to do.

440Hertz

The indoor ban is libertarian view, as it’s basically there to stop passive smoking. It’s one thing if you want to smoke yourself, it’s another if you want to pollute the indoor environment, removing other people’s choices.

I remember back in the later days of smoking, you’d come home from a nightclub or pub absolute reeking of smoke, even though you didn’t smoke yourself.

I remember it being so bad in some places, you’d still smell of smoke after showering.

When you think about what bar and nightclub staff must have been inhaling working in those places frequently, you’d wonder how much damage was done.

Mjolnir

440Hertz wrote: »

I think they’re sort of fading out of cool anyway. I don’t seem to know anyone who smokes anymore and I’m always a bit stunk out of it when I got to places like France where it’s still way more common.

It really smells bad when you stop being used to the odour.

Yup most teens that would have smoked are now vaping.

I quit years ago still get cravings for them, caught the smell of one the other day was instantly put back off.

440Hertz

Banning stuff just results in contraband and that opens gang involvement and next thing you’d have people buying cigarettes off drug dealers.

I’d be in favour of dropping the cannabis ban too for similar reasons. It might help break a cycle of bringing people into contact with hard drug dealers and dramatically reduce their market.

Pretzill

I'm three years off them yesterday so ban away - however if I was still a smoker I would say no prohibition doesnt work it only fuels criminality - and I still believe some people can smoke without dire consequences, some...

milltown

Deleted User wrote: »

Why ban them?

The number of smokers has been steadily decreasing for a long time among all age groups, most notably among teenagers.

Exactly the point I was going to make.
Kids these days aren't as cool as we were.

freshpopcorn

No, there’s nothing wrong with the odd social smoke.
If we were to start banning everything that was bad for us we’d have no pleasure at all.

topper75

I'm not saying I'm in total control of my ego, in fact, I may never be.

But I have long since relinquished any need for others to do what I do, dress like I do, listen to what I listen to etc.

If somebody wants to spark up an oul' fag to relax for a moment on a park bench, all I can hope is that they enjoy it. Nothing got to do with me. I'm not the boss of them.

Sgt Hartman

Banning isn't enough. If it were possible I would eradicate the tobacco plant from the planet and render it extinct.

B.A._Baracus

Sgt Hartman wrote: »

Banning isn't enough. If it were possible I would eradicate the tobacco plant from the planet and render it extinct.

The problem is that the government will have a massive loss of tax. They'll find other ways to make up the revenue. Ways you will not like

blackbox

Deleted User wrote: »

Prohibition doesn't work. We need to legalise and tax all drugs. Use that money to support hospitals rather than support criminal gangs.

Quite right. Smokers don't bother me as long as I can't smell them. Prohibition leads to crime.

Oh... It would be nice if they disposed of their butts and wrappers with consideration for others.

Tazz T

They are being slowly banned through taxation. 80% of a the price of a packet is now tax.

I honestly don't know how anyone can afford to smoke.

But by all means, start a political party, get into power on the basis of your ban smoking manifesto, become Taoiseach and make your vision a reality.

cnocbui

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

The problem is that the government will have a massive loss of tax. They'll find other ways to make up the revenue. Ways you will not like

A drop in the bucket compared to losing the 10% of government revenue that comes from taxing ICE motorist, which the government are doing their best to eliminate, vis a vis sucking people into EVs via subsidies from ICE revenues. Get ready for 32% VAT, because they won't be able tax electricity the way they do petrol and diesel.

ShatterAlan

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

My proposition would be that cigarettes cannot be sold to anyone born on or after the 1st of January 2003, ie, the next batch of people who will turn 18. Provision of identification will be mandatory for all sales, even if the person appears to be 100 years old in order to remove discretion and ambiguity.

Cigarettes will only be available during set hours like alcohol.

Of course, you'll have black market sales, these can be rooted out by undercover Gardaí posing as potential customers. If caught, you get a mandatory 6 month sentence.

Supplying tobacco to people born after 2003 will be similarly punished. Gradually, as the years go by, less and less people will be alive who will have been born before 2003. Within a few generations we will be tobacco free.

Yeah......OK

Rape was banned centuries ago and here we are "rape free"

You dreamer.