JayRoc wrote: » It's worth 1million= it's a mansion.
Cyrus wrote: » Look on MyHome and pick out the 1m mansions in south county Dublin Either they don’t exist or our definition of mansion doesn’t correlate .
JayRoc wrote: » Regardless: anyone bleating about having to dip into savings to pay a miniscule tax on what is, relatively speaking, a mansion, is tone deaf at best. Look around you.
Cyrus wrote: » This should give Andrew the chance to do his post on why car tax should be 1.7m or whatever it is Yeay
Is the Government asleep at the wheel over motor tax revenue? Reform needed to safeguard €6bn income while promoting electric vehicles, economist warns In a report published on Monday, he concludes the current system based around taxes on fossil fuels is unsustainable, and threatens to eliminate a large part of the current annual revenue base of €6 billion.
Living Off The Splash wrote: » If it was based on the 2013 value then my tax demand would not have changed. As I have received a new increased tax demand this week it would appear that they are taking the 2020 value of my house to assess my tax. Or maybe they are not, but just returning to the greasy till, in the middle of a pandemic to increase their coffers.
ted1 wrote: » No chip on my shoulder. You had an issue I gave you a solution. Also you are incorrect on the assessment, it’s based on the 2013 value. It was due to be reassessed but that’s being pushed out another year. You may want to check and ensure you haven’t overpaid.
Cyrus wrote: » That should get the likes rolling in. Is he not allowed have an opinion or is that just for people before profit and the aaa ?
ted1 wrote: » Like a proportional charge. Bike+rider =80kg Car+driver =1500kg Bike takes up about 6 Sq feet Car takes up about 90 sq feet Braking and torque pressure transfer from wheels to road is vastly difference. Road space giving to cyclists = minimal Raif space giving to cars in the council area = several thousand What about a footpath tax, should we charge pedestrians? I could go. Bit other than begrudgary can you tell me why you think there should be one.
Living Off The Splash wrote: » No, you are not paying this as a cyclist, you are paying this as a motorist. Do you think that cyclists should also be paying a similar tax?
JayRoc wrote: » TL/DR: Fella lives in a 1million Euro gaff wants us to feel sorry he has to dip into the "savings" to pay his 2grand property tax 😂
ted1 wrote: » It was genuine. If he had financial issues and was struggling to pay his LPT the sensible thing would be to downsize. Lots of families looking for 3+ bedroom homes that are being occupied by empty nesters who would greatly benefit by freeing up equity and moving into a low energy housing unit that better meets their requirements. Lots of new developments around Dalkey, Dun Laoighre etc
ted1 wrote: » As a cyclists I pay €560 motor tax ( what is this road tax you talk off ) but I generally leave the car parked at on a private drive.
Cyrus wrote: » Sell your house?, the cynic in me thinks it wasn’t genuine advice.
ted1 wrote: » No chip on my shoulder. You had an issue I gave you a solution. .
Living Off The Splash wrote: » I love it. This debate always draws out those that have a big chip on their shoulder about other people. Dun Laoghaire Rathdown County Council are basing their property tax on 2020 property prices. Why not the original price I paid for my property. Why not the size of my property?
Living Off The Splash wrote: » The motorist pays taxes AND a road tax. In fact they even contributed to the water you drank after your cycle. As a cyclist how much road tax do you pay? How much do you think you should be contributing? As you said you want to live in a society that caters for everyone.....in order to do that we all have to give our fair share....https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/motor-tax-cash-used-to-fund-irish-water-30968852.html
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Surely not kids playing outdoors? That's horrific, why can't they sit indoors on their Xboxes and iPads getting more and more obese, amiright? .
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Probably because they don't have to provide space for people to drive around with four empty seats all day long;
ted1 wrote: » If you are that hard up, sell your 1million + house and move to an area with cheaper taxes.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » No-one pays road tax in Ireland. When are motorists going to really start paying their fair share, like paying for all the free storage space they get for storing their private property in the suburbs, and paying for the 1500+ premature deaths each year resulting from poor air quality, with transport emissions being a major cause of these poor air quality?
AndrewJRenko wrote: » Presumably you have similar views on all the money spent on motorways and roads that some people will use also being a huge waste of money - your money? That's a million euro property that you're living in, right?
ted1 wrote: » And providing social housing seems like a huge waste of money as I don’t benefit. Grow up, you live in a society that has to cater for everyone. Not everyone drives yet they pay taxes for roads If you are that hard up, sell your 1million + house and move to an area with cheaper taxes.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » How exactly did you work out the 'paved with gold' thing. How many kms of road are they trying to maintain with their €30m spend? Do you know many small €1 million properties in DLR area? Thanks for pointing out the gender imbalance in cycling numbers. That's one of the main reasons why we need more safe cycling facilities, so that less people, especially women, are scared off the road. I have a problem with people who live in a €1m house playing the poor mouth about the lowest property taxes in Europe. That is really my bug bear. Probably because they don't have to provide space for people to drive around with four empty seats all day long; From: https://www.cyclinguk.org/blog/how-investing-cycling-makes-sense-and-makes-moneyhttps://ec.europa.eu/environment/integration/research/newsalert/pdf/378na1_en.pdf
Cyrus wrote: » Whatever they are spending isn’t enough the roads should be paved with gold around here but they aren’t any better than anywhere else.
Cyrus wrote: » Also good to know the cycle brothers are arbiters of who is and isn’t allowed complain about property tax and can also dish out sage advice on estate planning , wonderful resource to have. How do you know the poster isn’t mortgaged to the hilt or how do you know how big the property is?
Living Off The Splash wrote: » Do you have a problem with people who live in a house worth €1M? Is this really your bug bear?
Living Off The Splash wrote: » How do cycle lanes have a much higher return than other transport investments?
Here’s some of the headline statistics in TfL’s guide, starting with the ratio 13:1. That’s the average ‘Benefit Cost Ratio’ (BCR) for walking and cycling projects (UK and non-UK), which means that for every pound spent on walking and cycling, £13 is returned to the economy. Okay, that’s an average, and the Department for Transport’s (DfT) calculations for different UK cycling and walking schemes variously show returns of between £4 to £19 for every pound spent. That’s officially ‘very high’, with Government guidance on the evaluation of major projects suggesting that a ‘medium’ value-for-money project will have a BCR of between 1.5:1 and 2:1, and a ‘high’ value-for-money project a BCR of at least 2.1. Done properly, cycling is therefore one of the most cost-effective transport investments, with motorway upgrades and bypasses estimated to typically have lower BCRs of 3.1:1 and 3.7:1 respectively.
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