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FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

Tom Young

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shaunadennyham

awsah wrote: »

noone has said that you will fail based on the way your eyes move. Just don't cheat and you will have no problem with it. They have said that this is the only way to do them under the circumstance and if people are not comfortable they can wait until physical sittings are allowed again. I am not happy with some of the conditions of this exam but I am not waiting an indefinite amount of time to sit the exams, as Law hero would say, if you are spending time worrying about things that are out of your control then you are wasting time that should be spent studying.

Yea except that’s like saying oh don’t commit a crime and you don’t have to worry about being arrested and have unconstitutionally obtained evidence and unfair procedures used against you......

shaunadennyham

orlaghs wrote: »

Seeing some worry over the whole online/typed exam stuff. I have experience watching candidates doing exams as an online exam invigilator. It's very easy to notice that someone is just looking away from the screen in concentration or at the keyboard, compared to someone who is looking at their wall and reading notes on it. You'd be surprised how easy it is to spot someone cheating!
I'd advise to do the exam with honesty and to try to treat it as a traditionally invigilated exam, as I'm sure the proctoring software is more than capable of detecting suspicious behaviour (like reading through notes on a wall/going on your phone etc)

All fine and well but what about for the exams where we can refer to legislation? How would you prove after the fact that you were actually looking at your legislation and not at notes?

awsah

Lallers96 wrote: »

Very concerned about this random "score" attributed to my exam recording. Seems too arbitrary to fail someone based off the way their eyes move.

noone has said that you will fail based on the way your eyes move. Just don't cheat and you will have no problem with it. They have said that this is the only way to do them under the circumstance and if people are not comfortable they can wait until physical sittings are allowed again. I am not happy with some of the conditions of this exam but I am not waiting an indefinite amount of time to sit the exams, as Law hero would say, if you are spending time worrying about things that are out of your control then you are wasting time that should be spent studying.

awsah

L.E.D wrote: »

Hi, does anyone have notes on vehicular manslaughter? or can you tell me where is in the city college manual? I've checked and checked and can't find it, think my brain is not functioning lol

it's under criminal negligence manslaughter

Vehicular Manslaughter – a motorist who causes death as a result of negligent driving can be guilty of manslaughter, provided his negligence meets the standard as set out in Dunleavy.
 S. 4 Road Traffic Act 2011 – makes it a crime to drive a vehicle in a public place without due care and attention, and if such driving causes death or seriously bodily harm, the motorist is liable to a max punishment of 2 years imprisonment and a fine of €10,000.

 O’ Brien J. in AG v Quinlan defined “dangerous driving” as: “driving in a manner in which a reasonably prudent motorist, having regard to all the circumstances, would clearly recognise as involving direct and serious risk of harm to the public.”

Aoibhin511

Lallers96 wrote: »

Very concerned about this random "score" attributed to my exam recording. Seems too arbitrary to fail someone based off the way their eyes move.

I actually think there are enough checks in place on this one. Its not a random score, everyone is scored and if your scored is high enough above the average to cause concern it will be sent for review by a human and if that human think you're cheating it gets sent to the education committee for investigation. It's like submitting an assignment on turnitin, the software usually flags very high for law essays because everyone is citing the same cases and quoting the same academics/judges. But if your score is really high your lecturer will go through each flag and decide whether or not it is a valid one.
No one is going to be failed on the software alone and as the above poster said the difference between cheating and thinking is obvious to a human.

Jeremiah25

Lallers96 wrote: »

Very concerned about this random "score" attributed to my exam recording. Seems too arbitrary to fail someone based off the way their eyes move.

Doesn't sound like it will be a randomly generated score and, as they have said, if a high score is attributed to a candidate this will be subject to review.

Would imagine it would take something pretty conclusive to fail someone given the circumstances.

Lallers96

Very concerned about this random "score" attributed to my exam recording. Seems too arbitrary to fail someone based off the way their eyes move.

L.E.D

Hi, does anyone have notes on vehicular manslaughter? or can you tell me where is in the city college manual? I've checked and checked and can't find it, think my brain is not functioning lol

WesternC123

awsah wrote: »

This is literally all my notes on pblic nuisance, I can't see it coming up as a full PQ but would be handy to know for part of an essay or part of PQ

Public Nuisance

Civil actions for public nuisance are taken by the Attorney General.

A private action for a public nuisance can be taken where the Plaintiff suffered particular or special damage beyond that suffered by other members of the public.

Boyd V Great Northern Railway :
The Plaintiff must have suffered “some appreciable damage peculiar to himself beyond that suffered by other members of the public”

Smith v Wilson :
“Everyone who individually sustains particular injury can apply for damages or an injunction.”

Ya I have v little on public nuisance as well but that's really helpful. Thanks so much!

awsah

WesternC123 wrote: »

Oh really? Ok.
And do the same principle apply to public as private i.e Locus standi, conduct for which the defendant is responsible, damage/interference etc?

This is literally all my notes on pblic nuisance, I can't see it coming up as a full PQ but would be handy to know for part of an essay or part of PQ

Public Nuisance

Civil actions for public nuisance are taken by the Attorney General.

A private action for a public nuisance can be taken where the Plaintiff suffered particular or special damage beyond that suffered by other members of the public.

Boyd V Great Northern Railway :
The Plaintiff must have suffered “some appreciable damage peculiar to himself beyond that suffered by other members of the public”

Smith v Wilson :
“Everyone who individually sustains particular injury can apply for damages or an injunction.”

WesternC123

Lawlaw12 wrote: »

I believe it does come up as public nuisance too

Oh really? Ok.
And do the same principle apply to public as private i.e Locus standi, conduct for which the defendant is responsible, damage/interference etc?

Lawlaw12

WesternC123 wrote: »

Hey, Can anyone tell me how the nuisance question came up in the August Tort sitting?

Also, does it ever come up as public nuisance or is it always private or Rylands v Fletcher?

Thanks!

I believe it does come up as public nuisance too

nicolesd

does anyone have condensed notes on medical negligence or atleast tell me the main things to know or would it be worth leaving out?

awsah

CoconutHeadMia wrote: »

Are there any non fatal offences which people feel could be left out?

possibly demands for non payment of a debt (S.11), endangerment maybe (S.13/14)?

I like how they are all in sequence, i have just learned them all off as to what section of the act they pertain to, some of them you will not have to go into much detail, such as threats to kill, its section 5, case would be DPP v Wayne Dundon that is about as much as you would need in a problem question where the accused has threatened to kill, more likely the main points will be assault or sexual assault or something, so you are talking about easy marks

EmmaO94

law1234567 wrote: »

1. Ultra Vires
2. s.819
3. Directors' Duties PQ
4. Winding-up PQ
5. crystallisation essay
6.s.31
7. company strike off PQ
8. duties of receiver PQ

Thanks so much!

orlaghs

Seeing some worry over the whole online/typed exam stuff. I have experience watching candidates doing exams as an online exam invigilator. It's very easy to notice that someone is just looking away from the screen in concentration or at the keyboard, compared to someone who is looking at their wall and reading notes on it. You'd be surprised how easy it is to spot someone cheating!
I'd advise to do the exam with honesty and to try to treat it as a traditionally invigilated exam, as I'm sure the proctoring software is more than capable of detecting suspicious behaviour (like reading through notes on a wall/going on your phone etc)

CoconutHeadMia

Are there any non fatal offences which people feel could be left out?

fe.nofun

WesternC123 wrote: »

Hey, Can anyone tell me how the nuisance question came up in the August Tort sitting?

Also, does it ever come up as public nuisance or is it always private or Rylands v Fletcher?

Thanks!

If you drop me a pm with your email, I can send you a picture of it!

ihatethesea

Does anybody have some up to date sample answers for Tort? I am willing to pay for them ! Thanks in advance!

WesternC123

Hey, Can anyone tell me how the nuisance question came up in the August Tort sitting?

Also, does it ever come up as public nuisance or is it always private or Rylands v Fletcher?

Thanks!

Legalapples

Hi Guys, does anyone have condensed notes for the Practice, Procedure, Detention and Bail chapter in criminal law? was attempting to do myself but underestimated the chapter and time is of the essence

awsah

EmmaO94 wrote: »

This is basically what I've got too! And also very worried that none of it's sticking - find Company unbelievably dry so very hard to retain the info.

I know the Company March 2020 paper isn't in circulation but could anyone even from memory let me know what came up?

I have it pm me your email

law1234567

EmmaO94 wrote: »

This is basically what I've got too! And also very worried that none of it's sticking - find Company unbelievably dry so very hard to retain the info.

I know the Company March 2020 paper isn't in circulation but could anyone even from memory let me know what came up?

1. Ultra Vires
2. s.819
3. Directors' Duties PQ
4. Winding-up PQ
5. crystallisation essay
6.s.31
7. company strike off PQ
8. duties of receiver PQ

Dancing Obsession

2020FE1 wrote: »

What are people thinking for company? The notes aren’t sticking for me at the minute. I’m half tempted to drop Restriction and Receivership?

I’ve covered

- SLP
-Directors Duties
-Reckless and fraudulent trading
-S.212 Oppression
-The rule in Foss and Harbottle
-S.819 Restrictions
-Corporate Borrowing
-Winding Up
-Share transfer
-Receivership
- Corporate Authority
- 5 main changes brought in by the 2014 act

Would I be leaving myself short?

Looks good to me

EmmaO94

2020FE1 wrote: »

What are people thinking for company? The notes aren’t sticking for me at the minute. I’m half tempted to drop Restriction and Receivership?

I’ve covered

- SLP
-Directors Duties
-Reckless and fraudulent trading
-S.212 Oppression
-The rule in Foss and Harbottle
-S.819 Restrictions
-Corporate Borrowing
-Winding Up
-Share transfer
-Receivership
- Corporate Authority
- 5 main changes brought in by the 2014 act

Would I be leaving myself short?

This is basically what I've got too! And also very worried that none of it's sticking - find Company unbelievably dry so very hard to retain the info.

I know the Company March 2020 paper isn't in circulation but could anyone even from memory let me know what came up?

2020FE1

What are people thinking for company? The notes aren’t sticking for me at the minute. I’m half tempted to drop Restriction and Receivership?

I’ve covered

- SLP
-Directors Duties
-Reckless and fraudulent trading
-S.212 Oppression
-The rule in Foss and Harbottle
-S.819 Restrictions
-Corporate Borrowing
-Winding Up
-Share transfer
-Receivership
- Corporate Authority
- 5 main changes brought in by the 2014 act

Would I be leaving myself short?

law1234567

DUMSURFER wrote: »

That's completely fine, most people will be like that. They're not looking for you to stare down the webcam for 3 and a half hours and not going to question anyone who looks away when they think... Just do your exam as you normally would!

It's only if the system gives you an exceptionally high score, they will review the tape and if they see you're reading your "legislation" in between every line you type for a whole answer or two.... with barely a line of legislation in your answers... Or see you typing out a full answer while looking up at the wall the entire time you were typing... Then they'll ask questions.

Do you reckon this will prolong the giving of results if they need to make further enquires for some people? Seeing as the March sittings are around the corner

DUMSURFER

2020FE1 wrote: »

Hi all. I just read though tonight’s email. And it mentions looking away from the screen for a prolonged period. My typing wouldn’t be the best and I most definitely can’t type without looking at the keyboard. Is anybody else in this position or know is that ok?

That's completely fine, most people will be like that. They're not looking for you to stare down the webcam for 3 and a half hours and not going to question anyone who looks away when they think... Just do your exam as you normally would!

It's only if the system gives you an exceptionally high score, they will review the tape and if they see you're reading your "legislation" in between every line you type for a whole answer or two.... with barely a line of legislation in your answers... Or see you typing out a full answer while looking up at the wall the entire time you were typing... Then they'll ask questions.

Dliodoir2021

FE1Pleb wrote: »

I'm the exact same. I have to look at the keyboard to type...

Does anyone else look away to the side or up high (but into space really) to think?

shaunadennyham

Sorry what happens if they think you’ve cheated like how do you prove you haven’t after the fact? Will they tell us during the exam there’s been suspicious activity detected????