flasher0030 wrote: » That's not a fair comparison. If we take the new players that Horan has at his disposal this year, it's exceptional - Oisin Mullen, Eoin McLaighlean, Tommy Conroy, Mark Moran. James Horan has nothing to do with their development. They carved that out themselves through their club performances. It's not like Horan unearthed them. Every dog on the street was aware of these guys potential over the past 2 years. Now compare that to the couple of players named in a few posts previously that Rochford had to bring on in Croke Park - Danny Kirby, David Drake and Conor Loftus. There is no comparison. Kirby and Drake are never going to make a telling contribution to a match at intercounty level. And Loftus has no pace for a forward, and therefore will not do damage against a high performing team like Dublin or Kerry.
RedDevil55 wrote: » The 4 players you named were all hammered by Galway in the Connacht u20 final last year. None of them won anything at minor level either. Horan has had a lot to do with their development. In a county like ours there should always be talented young players coming on the scene. It is management's job to give them the belief to make it at senior level.
flasher0030 wrote: » I'm afraid your stats make no sense. A 6 point win doesn't reflect a "hammering" and just undermines anything else you are trying to argue against. Just because a player does not win a connnacht or All-Ireland medal at minor or Under 20s does not diminish his quality in any way. CIaran McDonald won nothing at under-age level as far as I know. The players are good players. They worked on it throughout their GAA career to date. And James Horan is fortunate that they landed on his desk at the same time. It's not taking away from James Horan as a manager. I rate him highely. I'm just saying its not because of James Horan that the aforementioned 4 players are integrating themselves into the team already. The initial point was that Stephen Rochford did not have the same luxury of a bunch of high quality players developming from the county at the one time.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Sure Keegan didn't play minor either, we better drop him because of that. We all know savage minors who hardly even played senior or intermediate club. Plenty of asymptomatic examples of guys who blossom within the proper environment.
RedDevil55 wrote: » You can argue semantics but we were well beaten in that u20 final. They have improved massively in the last 15 months and Horan has had a lot to do with that. Going on about how Horan is lucky to come across them is nonsense. There would have been talented young players around during Rochford's term as well but they weren't afforded the same opportunities. A good example would be Mattie Ruane who spent 3 years under Rochford without so much as a league appearance. In fairness we didn't need new players as much in 16 and 17 but we were caught out in 2018 after a few injuries.
White lighting wrote: » From the outside looking in Horan seems to have brought in an awful lot of Westport lads since he came back after managing them. I know they done well this year and in fairness all players have looked good at stages from Westport but does seem strange when no new knockmore lads have got a chance. What's the feeling in Mayo are all Westport players getting game time warranted
White lighting wrote: » From the outside looking in Horan seems to have brought in an awful lot of Westport lads since he came back after managing them. I know they done well this year and in fairness all players have looked good at stages from Westport but does seem strange when no new knockmore lads have got a chance. What's the feeling in Mayo are all Westport players getting game time warranted Edit. I'm a rossie but it's a genuine question not stirring the pot or in any way questioning Horans choices just curious.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » The view my dad has is that Knockmore were one of those club sides where they had one or two standout players and the rest were of a very high club standard with the potential of s few of those to step up to IC standard if required S&C undertaken. Westport have a higher number of standout players with potential to be IC players but that the rest of the players aren't at the same level yet as the standard Knockmore player. Breaffy would be in the Knockmore category, hence why you don't see many of their outfield players on the IC panel.
Deleted User wrote: » Horan knowing fresh changes were needed to be competitive this year and going with what he knows as there wasn’t much time to work with new players. Would hope a couple of the knock more lads are involved in the league in the spring
Panrich wrote: » Some of the Knockmore lads are very young as well I think. I'd hope that they will get a chance next year. It seems strange that Naughton and Orme were overlooked though.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Naughton gone to Sligo, time to get him back though as he won be tied to them until next year as he can't play this year. Also rumours that Sligo were not making as much demands on his time with regards to S&C. Mayo time is alot higher. Story is Orme isn't willing to commit to the S&C needed. Wants a life. Can you blame either of them for just pretty much wanting to enjoy being club players for the moment,
The Supporter wrote: » I sincerely hope that Mayo do not underestimate Leitrim. January 2019 in FBD Mayo only defeated Leitrim on penalties in Carrick on Shannon. In 2006 in Connacht Championship in Carrick on Shannon Mayo were complacent and were very lucky to win by one point. Mayo were complacent also against Roscommon last year in Castlebar and paid a high price.
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wirelessdude01 wrote: » Is this Brickendens first senior start?
seligehgit wrote: » A fairly abrupt ending to the glad tidings. Feargal McGill apparently said a month ago if the regional league comes into being it will be a once off and the normal 4 divisions league will return in 2022.Last weekends relegations and promotions will be honoured.The regional league would compromise of two groups of 4 in each region with top in each group playing in the final.
The Supporter wrote: » A Division Three Team Cavan defeated a Division One Team Monaghan today. Martin Breheny (Kilkerrin Co. Galway) in the Indo today previewing Mayo v Leitrim talked about Mayo as a scoring machine, what is Breheny's motivation with those comments? Terry Hyland the Leitrim manager won two Ulster under 2o's titles with Cavan, he was also the Cavan Senior Manager for four years. Brian Cody and Jim Gavin always respected the opposition.
The Supporter wrote: » I am a Mayo Supporter since the Mid Sixties, and I most certainly do not want to hear of a shock result from Carrick on Shannon tomorrow.
homewardbound11 wrote: » Are RTE showing the match ?
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