KillerShamrock wrote: » Just looking over the graphs and stuff and I can't help feel unless you have a 5000 series CPU and a 500 series mobo the figures shown won't be obtained and the cards may actually fair a small bit worse than the Nvidia counter parts in terms of raw FPS. I hope I'm wrong and I'm just nit picking but there is a bang of apple style buy into our eco system type marketing coming from AMD with this launch. If I'm right though and the figures shown rely on the eco system then unless you are willing/can/want to or are waiting to build and haven't in the last while, then bar the cheaper price the cards will come up a little short which for the price difference isn't a bad thing. Also as the 6800 was shown with the smart thing on, if that's the case it's worse than a 2080ti/3070 for a higher price unless as above you are in line for a new CPU/mobo.
Overheal wrote: » The wrinkle there is Nvidia cards apparently aren’t over clocking that well. Because GDDR6X doesn’t like it?
jebidiah wrote: » Will be interesting to see the third party reviews with this in mind. I'm aum Nvidia also cherry pick the absolute best of everything to give their bench mark numbers as well.
jebidiah wrote: » It makes sense for AMD to be really working side by side with both departments, since they are doing this for the consoles. Leverage that experience into desktops to make a more streamlined process. Sure it costs more to get in, but for the cost of a 3090 you could probably get that full set up of Mobo, CPU and 6900 (give or take a few quid)
KillerShamrock wrote: » oh yeah they 100% did remember 2x faster than a 2080ti jazz for the 3080 which turned out to be in Ray tracing quake 2 or mincraft only or along those lines and that the 3070 is faster than a 2080ti which it is in certain cases. All well and good if you are buying in at that level or fresh/first time build but at the 6800/6800XT and 3080/3070 level that adds a good chunk of change to the system and if you are coming from intel then even more so. The price to preformance ratio will most likely change drastically if you go down this route.
jebidiah wrote: » Will be interesting to see the third party reviews with this in mind. I'm aum Nvidia also cherry pick the absolute best of everything to give their bench mark numbers as well. It makes sense for AMD to be really working side by side with both departments, since they are doing this for the consoles. Leverage that experience into desktops to make a more streamlined process. Sure it costs more to get in, but for the cost of a 3090 you could probably get that full set up of Mobo, CPU and 6900 (give or take a few quid)
Homelander wrote: » Not all of the AMD benchmarks were using SMA and Rage. Also, didn't they have slides showing the gap with said features on/off? Most games it was 5%. That still puts the 6900XT at parity, or a few % worse than the RTX3090 at $500 less. Still a major win for consumers.
Inquitus wrote: » I still have a R9 290X in one of my older PC's its like a combination between a hoover and a space heater!
KillerShamrock wrote: » They didnt and yep its a win for consumers. On the 6900XT the slides had + smart access and rage mode and then for the 6800 it had smart access. For the 6800xt it just compared wattage at the bottom, also no numbers on any of the Nvidia bars so we dont know yet what they are comparing to realisticly. Reviews will be interesting to say the least and any one who just reviews them with the latest AMD board and cpu will need to justify why not on a few different sytems or they will probably end up being branded AMD shills/fanboys by Nvidia fanboys :pac:
awec wrote: » The 6900 is very tempting but I have a g-sync monitor.
Inquitus wrote: » AMD went with GDDR6 not the GDDR6X that Nvidia have opted for.
Overheal wrote: » That was my point. That the Radeon 6k card should be more over lock stable than nvidias RTX 3k series.
EoinHef wrote: » Your basing that on what? Memory is only one part of an overclock,GDDR6X is already clocked higher than GDDR6 also so I'm not sure what your point is?
Overheal wrote: » Just the 290 here and an FX 8150. This is definitely the year to upgrade! Guys whatever about the slides they differentiate between the Rage+SAM performance in white with the stock card in red. Even neck and neck in any other build like that those are great numbers and at that price. To have it actually get more performance on a Zen 3 system is free performance to those building new. And at less power consumption.
seraphimvc wrote: » I am expecting Linus's next video on FREE PERFORMANCE for the 60 cards. Oh man he might go to town now FREE+FREE performance from AMD CPU+GPU
KillerShamrock wrote: » Just looking over the graphs and stuff and I can't help feel unless you have a 5000 series CPU and a 500 series mobo the figures shown won't be obtained and the cards may actually fair a small bit worse than the Nvidia counter parts in terms of raw FPS. I hope I'm wrong and I'm just nit picking but there is a bang of apple style buy into our eco system type marketing coming from AMD with this launch. If I'm right though and the figures shown rely on the eco system then unless you are willing/can/want to or are waiting to build and haven't in the last while, then bar the cheaper price the cards will come up a little short which for the price difference isn't a bad thing. Also as the 6800 was shown with the smart thing on, if that's the case it's worse than a 2080ti/3070 for a higher price unless as above you are in line for a new CPU/mobo. As usual I hope I'm wrong and the reviewers will show the cards on multiple systems to show the real difference.
Squidgy Black wrote: » There'll be an awful lot of salty 3090 owners regardless of how the benchmarks turn out for the 6900XT. It'll be like the 2080ti owners after the 3080 launch all over again.
Hyzepher wrote: » I think AMDs RT is software based, so nothing to do with the CU count. Other than the more you have the better
