NovemberWren wrote: » recently, some tactic by organised thugs [and the Gardaí] has been in use, 'kettling'; I suppose this is block a, infiltrated, march, front and back - and so in the steam, they will assault each other. ain't nothin' new here? has 'kettling' been done by Estate Agents/Banks/Auctioneers for a 100 years now? Block access to making commerce a viable way of life for people like Dee; and the poor have no recourse but to the highly paid and even vast bureaucracy, who are highly imaginative in creating 'labels' for disability. Bet those evil TDs are, even now, planning how to grab Cheap Commercial Real Estate and Investor properties - for themselves.
dasdog wrote: » If Gemma and Dee's followers are a yardstick to extremism there should be nothing to worry about. Gem is possibly a paranoid schizophrenic although she is consistent so maybe just paranoid. Dee is an angry ant and the followers just tagging along maybe as their own lives are miserable. Patriots my hole.
Birneybau wrote: » They're not though. They're useful idiots to be be gotten behind to then push it further. Look at the hack of some of the 'followers'.
dasdog wrote: » And look at they way they are pushing their 'cause'. There is none - they have no common cause. It is a fractured rabble and they will have more splits than a INLA meeting could dream of.
jelem wrote: » i like the "useful idiots" term as it does point to the government FG and FF parties as Useless Idiots. this being the opposite of what you voice against and as such support the Useless Idiots
Eric Cartman wrote: » I would consider Gemma, Dee and a lot of friends an A-political reactionary group of conspiracy theorists.
Eric Cartman wrote: » no they're not. The far right in this country haven't killed anybody.
I don't know what the firebombing the car is about, was that not the shinners??
the only thing the far right have done here is make youtube videos and protested outside google.
jelem wrote: » Is this any diferent than the government enforced (dont quote vote result) legalising unnatural male pen-s in male an_s which is not natural by Nature and as such perverse = perverted. oh they government and cant be wrong and thats why ireland is F D. i am for equal rights BUT on condition that is for all and not just favoured vote collection.
Hotblack Desiato wrote: » What about all the racist crap they come out with? Is that "A-political" as well? Yet. If they continue whacking unarmed people over the head with flagpoles, it's only a matter of time. And "they haven't killed anybody" - talk about a low bar :rolleyes: No it was an SF TD's car firebombed because he criticised the far-right. NB I've zero time for SF, either. and beat up people in the street and called for gays to be lynched Gemma alone is directly responsible for stirring up a hate campaign against the mixed-race couple in the Lidl ad - they had to leave the country. Also after a woman in Longford criticised Gemma to her face for photographing and racially abusing her child, Gemma's followers have been harassing her online and offline for over a year now.
Eric Cartman wrote: » I agree theyre racists , but racism can be a-political , sure dee was a supporter of paul murphy, pictured with him a few times. A lot of them are very left wing economically , they are nationalist - socialists to the extreme and need to be condemned. Izzy kamikaze didnt deserve to be hit, but they wasnt an innocent bystander, they went there to pick a fight with these yobs. We need to stem the rise of these reactionary racist conspiracy groups , but calling them ‘far right’ or ‘right wing’ is disingenuous considering they are just really nationalist authoritarian socialists living off the state.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Counter protesting doesn't mean Izzy wasn't innocent, you say she's undeserving of such an attack but then justify it to some extent which is bizarre. You seem to be trying to deny or downplay that they're far right... Some may have been in the Irish left at one point or another but they clearly found a more welcoming home for their views in the far right.
Joeytheparrot wrote: » The far right in this country is dangerous and violent. Stop trying to deny it and deflect elsewhere. Proposed DP centre set on fire - far right SF TDs car firebombed - far right Izzy Kamikaze beaten up - far right Constant Racist and violent threats against Aneta Safiak, Fiona Ryan, Hazel Chu, Emer O'Neill - Far right Threatened to Murder President Higgins - Far right
jelem wrote: » Is this any diferent than the government enforced (dont quote vote result)legalising unnatural male pen-s in male an_s which is not natural by Nature and as such perverse = perverted. oh they government and cant be wrong and thats why ireland is F D. i am for equal rights BUT on condition that is for all and not just favoured vote collection.
Deshawn wrote: » Far left parties have no place in dail eireann. Yet here we are
Eric Cartman wrote: » Izzy was acting in bad faith im justifying nothing , but going into a crowd of these tracksuit clad yobs and getting hit is hardly a surprising outcome, whats that movie where bruce willis wears the sandwich board with the n word written on it...
AndrewJRenko wrote: » I think it is the electorate that decides who has a place in Dail Eireann, not you.
Deshawn wrote: » If a party who are openly far right ever got into the dail I wonder would you change your tune.
Boom_Bap wrote: » The irony of the whole situation is that they want a united Ireland.....but want to create division to achieve it. Someone didn't go to maths class.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » can you clarify who "they" are?
Deshawn wrote: » I'm referring to the politician kidnapping pbp/rise folk
AndrewJRenko wrote: » My tune or your tune are irrelevant. That's the facts about who gets into Dail Eireann. That's why it is really, really important that we protect the integrity of our electoral system, and we manage the abuse of media and social media that results in stolen elections, like Trump and Brexit.
Deshawn wrote: » Stolen election IE a democratic vote that didn't go my way.