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Do you believe in UFOs & flying saucers ?

Hamsterchops

Have you every seen an unidentified flying object?

A UFO of course is just an aerial phenomenon that you can't explain (hence unidentified), & probably not at all connected to little green men from Mars.

So what are UFOs and have you ever seen something in the sky that you couldn't explain?

In the past many people have mistaken aircraft, weather balloons, silver party balloons, and even bright planets in the night sky as UFOs, but of course under scrutiny they usually have a rational & logical explanation. More recently drones have been mistaken as UFOs.

Then in the last month we've had video clips released from the Pentagon actually showing real UFOs filmed darting around at amazing speeds & doing manouvers that would be impossible for any manned craft to do. The G forces would be so powerful as to kill any human occupants, so what was witnessed by the US Navy pilots and the aircraft carrier radar?

Are UFOs terrestrial or extraterrestrial craft?

Illusions or really there, imagination or reality?

What are UFOs !

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Fuzzyduzzy wrote: »

https://youtu.be/L4I9upsqmkI

The director of the new Phenomenon documentary is saying that some very big news in this field is eminent. With so many lunatics in Ufology he is one of the more level headed folk. Predictions?

A new Dacia Sandero.

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Fuzzyduzzy wrote: »

https://youtu.be/L4I9upsqmkI

The director of the new Phenomenon documentary is saying that some very big news in this field is eminent. With so many lunatics in Ufology he is one of the more level headed folk. Predictions?

Winged Lizard People flying through the sky brandishing 5G masts to the sound of Bill Gates shouting: “Fly, my pretties, fly!”

Fuzzyduzzy

https://youtu.be/L4I9upsqmkI

The director of the new Phenomenon documentary is saying that some very big news in this field is eminent. With so many lunatics in Ufology he is one of the more level headed folk. Predictions?

dexter647

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4lmM3pPrI4

bangkok

Fuzzyduzzy wrote: »

Strange event in Hawaii over the weekend, similar to the Phoenix Lights in '97. Lots of videos online of it. https://amp.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article246732446.html?__twitter_impression=true

University of Hawaiʻi at Mānoa Institute for Astronomy Professor Richard Wainscoat believes onlookers witnessed the reentry of a spent rocket booster used to launch Venezualan satellite, Venesat-1, back in 2008. The used rocket has been circling Earth since the launch, slowly losing altitude due to friction with the tenuous atmosphere in low-Earth orbit. On Saturday, the booster made its final orbits.

Hamsterchops

Fuzzyduzzy wrote: »

Strange event in Hawaii over the weekend, similar to the Phoenix Lights in '97. Lots of videos online of it. https://amp.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article246732446.html?__twitter_impression=true

Just watched the video and saw nothing except the night sky!
Maybe its a "cloaked" Klingon bird of prey?

The_Kew_Tour

Its not strange at all. Explanation provided

Fuzzyduzzy

Strange event in Hawaii over the weekend, similar to the Phoenix Lights in '97. Lots of videos online of it. https://amp.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article246732446.html?__twitter_impression=true

auspicious

It does apply though if they're on about infinite parallel universes. With IPUs there will be infinite replicas of this one exactly as it is and also slightly different. The same theory applies to this one also if it (space) is infinite, but of course we'll never know. I think.

maccored

dont want to go off on a tangent, but the general idea of parallel universes is a bit flawed. People assume parallel universes are basically the same but with people doing different things. They dont seem to understand that only the particles are meant to be in multiple places. no-one has said all the particles will be arranged exactly the same in each universe. the particles that might make up a tree in this universe could be spread out over different things in a parallel universe.

Not relevant at all here mind you

jmlad2020

NIMAN wrote: »

One of the things that makes me think that aliens aren't about on earth and chatting to our governments, other than the lack of real evidence of any kind, is all the money and people involved in space programmes and research.

I have seen a few documentaries in recent years about probes that humans have built and sent out into the solar system and beyond, to gather data on planets, moons, search for life etc and it's amazing to see how much money, time, knowledge, technology, man hours etc that has gone into all these, going back 40 or 50 years.

They are filled with interviews with incredibly smart people who tell you how much these projects meant to them. They are their life's work.

They cost billions upon billions. They involve tens of thousands of staff across the entire world.

You really think all this would be done if aliens are sitting having chats with us at Area 51?

If the existence of Aliens and contact has already happened (let's say in Area51 for the sake of this comment) then there is a lot Humanity will not be able to comprehend. Are we an Alien experiment? Are we one of many Parallel universes simultaneously occuring at this present moment? are we really governed by Alien Lizards disguised as humans? Who knows what's really going on. We certainly don't.

Humanity isn't ready for these answers. It's probably best that we wander the solar system slowly, over centuries to find out about our origins, rather than disturb relative peace on earth to disclose some potentially frightening stuff about Mankind. We aren't ready for a little virus what makes you think we'll be ready to hear the truth of the cosmos

the purple tin

UFO Hunters on Blaze had an episode on earlier about the Illinois UFO sightings a decade ago.
Five seperate police officers reported seeing it in different areas and six members of the public.
They had a video of it too but I can't find it on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsyD3_KHwCY

bangkok

NIMAN wrote: »

One of the things that makes me think that aliens aren't about on earth and chatting to our governments, other than the lack of real evidence of any kind, is all the money and people involved in space programmes and research.

I have seen a few documentaries in recent years about probes that humans have built and sent out into the solar system and beyond, to gather data on planets, moons, search for life etc and it's amazing to see how much money, time, knowledge, technology, man hours etc that has gone into all these, going back 40 or 50 years.

They are filled with interviews with incredibly smart people who tell you how much these projects meant to them. They are their life's work.

They cost billions upon billions. They involve tens of thousands of staff across the entire world.

You really think all this would be done if aliens are sitting having chats with us at Area 51?

black projects that NASA have no involvement in. NASA is just a big PR exercise

the purple tin

The money being siphoned off and spent on secret projects makes everything NASA has ever done look like peanuts in comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewcZts6WHUw

the purple tin

NIMAN wrote: »

One of the things that makes me think that aliens aren't about on earth and chatting to our governments, other than the lack of real evidence of any kind, is all the money and people involved in space programmes and research.

I have seen a few documentaries in recent years about probes that humans have built and sent out into the solar system and beyond, to gather data on planets, moons, search for life etc and it's amazing to see how much money, time, knowledge, technology, man hours etc that has gone into all these, going back 40 or 50 years.

They are filled with interviews with incredibly smart people who tell you how much these projects meant to them. They are their life's work.

They cost billions upon billions. They involve tens of thousands of staff across the entire world.

You really think all this would be done if aliens are sitting having chats with us at Area 51?

Public Relations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0mimIp8mr8

NIMAN

One of the things that makes me think that aliens aren't about on earth and chatting to our governments, other than the lack of real evidence of any kind, is all the money and people involved in space programmes and research.

I have seen a few documentaries in recent years about probes that humans have built and sent out into the solar system and beyond, to gather data on planets, moons, search for life etc and it's amazing to see how much money, time, knowledge, technology, man hours etc that has gone into all these, going back 40 or 50 years.

They are filled with interviews with incredibly smart people who tell you how much these projects meant to them. They are their life's work.

They cost billions upon billions. They involve tens of thousands of staff across the entire world.

You really think all this would be done if aliens are sitting having chats with us at Area 51?

bangkok

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Venus was very bright last night, probably the brightest thing in the night sky after the moon, but I don't understand how so many people have considered it a UFO over the years. It's stationary, it's static, and it's constant, yet some people have pointed at it and claimed UFO :cool:

no, i think its People see a UFO and the debunkers say "oh no it was venus you seen" utter nonsense

Hamsterchops

Venus was very bright last night, probably the brightest thing in the night sky after the moon, but I don't understand how so many people have considered it a UFO over the years. It's stationary, it's static, and it's constant, yet some people have pointed at it and claimed UFO :cool:

saabsaab

nthclare wrote: »

I've took a movie clip of something strange happening in the Sky in the Burren, I kid you not..

The phone went fuzzy when this thing happened, almost like static... and the picture got warped.

very strange,

Electrical interference is often reported along with UFO events.

nthclare

PhantomHat wrote: »

If there is a decent moon out tonight I'd invite you to take a photo or video of it with your mobile phone. It being rather large and clear in the sky you'd expect a fantastic shot. In reality you'll get a fairly bad picture. You'll still need a high end camera to do this.
Something perhaps not so big bright and as obvious hasn't a hope of coming out that great.

I've took a movie clip of something strange happening in the Sky in the Burren, I kid you not..

The phone went fuzzy when this thing happened, almost like static... and the picture got warped.

very strange,

EmmetSpiceland

bangkok wrote: »

even try it with an airplane going past, clear to the naked eye yet try and take a photo with your phone and see how fuzzy, crap it looks

If it’s crap enough you could sell it as proof of aliens zipping across our skies.

bangkok

PhantomHat wrote: »

If there is a decent moon out tonight I'd invite you to take a photo or video of it with your mobile phone. It being rather large and clear in the sky you'd expect a fantastic shot. In reality you'll get a fairly bad picture. You'll still need a high end camera to do this.
Something perhaps not so big bright and as obvious hasn't a hope of coming out that great.

even try it with an airplane going past, clear to the naked eye yet try and take a photo with your phone and see how fuzzy, crap it looks

PhantomHat

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

With the advent of the HD camera phone how come we’re not inundated with “footage” of flying saucers and aliens?

Seems to a fair bit of grainy old video footage or poor quality photographs of them. Would have expected to be some high quality recordings of these “events” appearing on the news weekly at this stage.

If there is a decent moon out tonight I'd invite you to take a photo or video of it with your mobile phone. It being rather large and clear in the sky you'd expect a fantastic shot. In reality you'll get a fairly bad picture. You'll still need a high end camera to do this.
Something perhaps not so big bright and as obvious hasn't a hope of coming out that great.

Psychlops

The most interesting case from Italy.

Zanfretta case, multiple witnesses & Triangle UFO's. Rgeressive hypnosis involved too.

Rhys Essien

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

With the advent of the HD camera phone how come we’re not inundated with “footage” of flying saucers and aliens?

Seems to a fair bit of grainy old video footage or poor quality photographs of them. Would have expected to be some high quality recordings of these “events” appearing on the news weekly at this stage.

That question is asked time and time again. The vast majority of photos whether authentic or not are taken at night. Now if we have a full moon tonight go out and take a photo of it and see how ****e it turns out. It’s basically the same thing. You’re only going to see a blur. But with your own eyes you see a lovely clear moon.

Another theory is the anti-gravity system that allows them to hover and fly surrounds them in some sort of energy field that wouldn’t enable a camera to process a clear picture.

Finally, remember the Terminator’s cloaking ability.

EmmetSpiceland

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

I do not forsee Rama entering our solar system or expect Contact-like data dumps. I mean I'd LOVE to be proven wrong but I don't see it.

A Rama-like encounter, for me, is more probable than aliens zipping around the skies beaming up yokels and look up their bottoms.

The only problem would be that if it wasn’t “programmed” to slow down we’d probably miss it. Like that, potentially, extra-solar comet that passed by recently enough.

BattleCorp

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

With the advent of the HD camera phone how come we’re not inundated with “footage” of flying saucers and aliens?

Seems to a fair bit of grainy old video footage or poor quality photographs of them. Would have expected to be some high quality recordings of these “events” appearing on the news weekly at this stage.

HD camera phones allow UFOs to become IFOs (identified flying objects) thus removing the mystery.

But like I said before, I do believe there is life out there, and life that has the technology to get here. And if they have the technology to get here, you'd have to imagine that they'd have the technology not to get spotted.

TheIrishGrover

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

With the advent of the HD camera phone how come we’re not inundated with “footage” of flying saucers and aliens?

Seems to a fair bit of grainy old video footage or poor quality photographs of them. Would have expected to be some high quality recordings of these “events” appearing on the news weekly at this stage.

Yeah, I mean I used to love all that stuff when I was a kid. Reading all about project blue book, all that sort of stuff in the unexplained magazine way back in the early 80's. Everything from aliens to bigfoot, from vampires to spontaneous human combustion (Which scared the life out of me

)

But yeah, in this day and age where every single person in the developed world has a decent quality video camera on them 24/7 365 days a year it is "strange" that we have seen no decent footage.

I mean mathematically I certainly believe in alien life. Everything from single cellular life to civilisations far in advance of ours. But, according to our current knowledge of the universe and physics, I don't believe in UFOs.

I do believe that we will discover irrefutable proof of alien life in the next 20 years or so: It may be microbial life on Mars or Venus or some of the Jovian moons (If they ever get the budget to send probes there). Or artificial gasses/organics that can 100% ONLY be generated by life on some extra-solar planets (I believe that Venus findings will eventually be explained as not coming from organic life). It's possible even a signal.

I do not forsee Rama entering our solar system or expect Contact-like data dumps. I mean I'd LOVE to be proven wrong but I don't see it.

EmmetSpiceland

With the advent of the HD camera phone how come we’re not inundated with “footage” of flying saucers and aliens?

Seems to a fair bit of grainy old video footage or poor quality photographs of them. Would have expected to be some high quality recordings of these “events” appearing on the news weekly at this stage.